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Best Kaiseki in Tokyo

azntenshi Oct 29, 2013 10:34 AM

Where is the best kaiseki restaurant in Tokyo?

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    blessthismess RE: azntenshi Oct 29, 2013 10:50 PM

    I've been to "Bon" in Iriya. It's the only kaiseki I've ever had but it's very impressive and a beautiful restaurant too. I recommend the lunch course for ¥5000 I think.

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      azntenshi RE: blessthismess Oct 30, 2013 09:12 AM

      I apologize for my simple question. I got a reservation at Kikunoi for dinner in Kyoto and Ishikawa for a late night dinner in Tokyo for kaiseki. Are those considered "good" kaiseki or are there better places? Thank you!

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        Uncle Yabai RE: azntenshi Oct 30, 2013 09:15 AM

        Ishikawa is very good, top of their game. Kikunoi in Kyoto I've never been awed by, I really don't find it that trascendent as its reputation.

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          Asomaniac RE: Uncle Yabai Oct 30, 2013 07:46 PM

          Kikunoi's prices are transcendent for what you get. The Tokyo branch is a joke.

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            azntenshi RE: Asomaniac Oct 30, 2013 07:58 PM

            I'm going to kikunoi (main) in kyoto for dinner.. maybe the food isn't amazing but I'm hoping the experience will be worth it

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          pauliface RE: azntenshi Oct 30, 2013 10:12 AM

          Yes. Ishikawa is fantastic. You have done well. I am heading there for a return visit in December -- it was my favorite meal during my previous trip.

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            la2tokyo RE: pauliface Oct 31, 2013 04:15 PM

            I love Ishikawa too. Funny thing is that he is very insistent that his food is not kaiseki. He will correct people and say it is washoku, and not kaiseki. I guess it's because kaiseki is seen as having so many rules.

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              Asomaniac RE: la2tokyo Oct 31, 2013 05:13 PM

              Indeed. It is still kaiseki though (but I won't be the one to disagree with him to his face).

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        Ninisix RE: azntenshi Oct 29, 2013 11:12 PM

        My favorite place is Yamasaki, the chef studied at Tsujitome but even her roots is from the old school cha kaiseki, she serves the heartfull nabe(hot pot) course with some classic dishes.. you need to be in a group to enjoy this place... simpler course include 'negima(leeks, maguro)' with few dishes, more complex courses with shells includes a series of full season ceremonial meal.. if you're alone, choose a Kappo style kaiseki..

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          babreu RE: azntenshi Nov 2, 2013 03:24 AM

          Kanda, Matsukawa and Den (maybe too modern to be called kaiseki). Ishikawa is also one of the finest.

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            azntenshi RE: babreu Nov 2, 2013 11:47 AM

            I tried to get into Den but they said they are all full for December already

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              Gargle RE: azntenshi Nov 2, 2013 09:03 PM

              Maybe it's all a ruse.

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                azntenshi RE: Gargle Nov 2, 2013 09:10 PM

                what does that mean?

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                tigerjohn RE: azntenshi Nov 2, 2013 11:19 PM

                This might be a risky strategy but we faced the same problem last April trying to book about a month ahead. We kept the date open (primarily because we were flying out late that night) and had our concierge call a week ahead to see if there were any openings and we were able to get an early reservation for 5:30pm.

                We enjoyed our meal there. Some great highs (including two separate rice dishes, one beef and one sakuraebi which were among the best we've had) and a few misses (the fried chicken in a fake KFC box) but overall a good experience.

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