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Sriracha is causing a stink in LA

ennuisans Oct 28, 2013 09:38 PM

Their big new plant has brought a new kind of smog to town.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la...

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  1. boogiebaby RE: ennuisans Oct 29, 2013 12:11 PM

    This was on the news last night too. One lady claimed her dog sneezes from the chile odors. The news woman said that while they were there, they couldn't smell anything, but that residents said that it was because it had been raining.

    1. Servorg RE: ennuisans Oct 30, 2013 07:38 AM

      That evidently is a hot news story (g) because the national morning programs like GMA ran it today. The on camera reporter did confirm that inside the building the fumes were pretty intense causing him to cough and have watery eyes. But on the roof of the plant, standing right over one of the vents that had carbon filters installed, while he could smell the chili odor, he said he had no physical symptoms from the odor like he had inside.

      1. GraydonCarter RE: ennuisans Nov 1, 2013 07:51 AM

        A judge has denied the town's attempt to shut down production. This is news in UK.

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013...

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          Veggo RE: GraydonCarter Nov 1, 2013 07:55 AM

          It's a 40 $million+ new plant, that provides jobs. This is such an unfortunate problem with no easy solution, but it probably should have been anticipated when a location was being chosen. Coffee roasters stink, too.

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            Servorg RE: Veggo Nov 1, 2013 08:08 AM

            It's too bad that the Sriracha plant couldn't have located next to the Hyperion Waste Water Treatment facility along the coast by LAX. That way, when the prevailing wind is blowing off shore the folks in the RV park that sits just adjacent to the facility would have a better competing odor to "enjoy" while camping (well, not really camping I suppose when you're in a 50 foot motor coach) there...

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              4X4 RE: Servorg Nov 1, 2013 09:14 AM

              Maybe someone should open a beef broth/stock making plant next to the Sriracha plant. Then the air would smell like pho. :)

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              GH1618 RE: Veggo Nov 1, 2013 08:11 AM

              There are three coffee roasters in my neighborhood and I like the smell. I don't think it is at all comparable, because the fumes from hot chiles are an irritant. This plant processes a huge volume of chiles, so I can imagine that it creates a problem.

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            GH1618 RE: ennuisans Nov 1, 2013 08:17 AM

            The word "odor" is being used by the press and by people affected and others commenting here, but the problem isn't really the odor (smell). Some people complain of watering eyes. That's because of irritants in the fumes which are distinct from the odoriferous components.

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              Servorg RE: GH1618 Nov 1, 2013 08:25 AM

              As I mentioned above in my first post, the on camera reporter stood directly over one of the main vents on the roof of the plant and said that the carbon filters that had been installed took away all of the irritants from the remaining odor of the processed chiles.

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                GH1618 RE: Servorg Nov 1, 2013 08:56 AM

                Perhaps that will do it, but evidently that system has not been in place and functioning since the plant began operating.

            2. SWISSAIRE RE: ennuisans Nov 1, 2013 08:25 AM

              Any company declaring $ 83 Million USD in 2012, can afford to invest in better scrubbers, filtration, etc. in the manufacturing process. It is a business write-off besides.

              As I read this news in the US, in the UK, and Germany, this company recently relocated from a business-only zone in a different city, to a mixed business-residential area of Irwindale, California.

              The pre-existing neighbourhood didn't move in next to the company as the result of urban sprawl, it's actually the other way around.

              The company recently moved in next to a residential neighbourhood, and has created the new problem. Imagine the smell and your eyes on a hot summer day.

              Siracha needs to take steps to meet or exceed the city, county, and state health and safety regulations. It is not up to the company to decide how much equipment, or the type used to control the odours and fumes from the process.

              Siracha is a pretty popular product, but fermenting garlic and chile on a large industrial scale would be very noxious unless controlled. Like tear gas. Looking at the videos, I would say they have actually increased manufacturing capacity from the former location, in the move to Irwindale.

              It is evident that Siracha missed doing their homework completely on this relocation, and the process effect on the neighbourhood. They have the ability to work it out with the city, and to satisfy the neighbours.

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                Veggo RE: SWISSAIRE Nov 1, 2013 08:31 AM

                I expect the large trucks arriving with tons of chilies are not too fragrant coming through the neighborhood. You are exactly right, someone didn't do their homework. I'm guessing the easiest solution would be for the plant owner to purchase the nearby homes, even if it cost a few million. There is no easy answer.

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                  Servorg RE: Veggo Nov 1, 2013 08:36 AM

                  Bins of raw chiles in the market have no discernible odor that I've ever smelled. Why would raw chiles in a truck cause a problem?

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                    Veggo RE: Servorg Nov 1, 2013 08:42 AM

                    I'm guessing that the weight and vibration of tons of them in a truck would break some up a bit. I live in Bradenton, home of Tropicana, and there is an orange scent when driving behind a truckload of oranges, but I know the comparison is apples and oranges. Well, almost.

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                      Servorg RE: Veggo Nov 1, 2013 08:45 AM

                      I'm assuming that the chiles in the bins at markets were trucked in with the same vibrations and load sizes at some point. They really don't seem to give off any fumes or odor there, so I doubt that those being delivered to the Sriracha plant would be any different in the raw state.

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                        Veggo RE: Servorg Nov 1, 2013 08:54 AM

                        Markets are usually buying a few boxes - the sriracha plant has massive inbound uncovered loads of many tons. I though I noted in one article a problem with that, not sure. It would be best for all it that were not the case, as it would be the most difficult to attenuate.

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                          Servorg RE: Veggo Nov 1, 2013 08:57 AM

                          "Markets are usually buying a few boxes..."

                          Right. But when those chiles left the growers fields on the way to market they were being trucked in huge loads to their wholesale facility destination. Just pointing out that whether they are going to the Sriracha plant, or eventually to my supermarket, they get the same treatment in terms of transport agitation at some point on their journey.

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                            Veggo RE: Servorg Nov 1, 2013 09:00 AM

                            Probably, but not and endless caravan traveling through residential neighborhoods. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out. I have sympathy for both the fox and the hound.

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                              Servorg RE: Veggo Nov 1, 2013 09:42 AM

                              My main point on the handling issue you raised is that I would expect some type of odor or fumes, however faint it might be, to be given off by the raw chiles at my market when I stand over the bin and inhale (based on the similarity of trucking/handling of the chiles going from grower to either wholesale distributor or to the Sriracha plant). There is none.

                              That makes me believe that trucking raw chiles doesn't cause the odor to be released for either the neighbors of the Sriracha plant or the customers at the supermarket.

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                                Veggo RE: Servorg Nov 1, 2013 09:52 AM

                                I hope you are right. I'm sure the truck traffic is bothersome. When residential is adjacent to industrial, fur can fly.

              2. FoodChic RE: ennuisans Nov 1, 2013 08:19 PM

                Denton, TX (way north DFW) has offered Sriracha a new home if they're interested.

                http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-pos...

                1. Atomic76 RE: ennuisans Nov 4, 2013 06:28 PM

                  Why does this make headlines, but the oil spill in Arkansas was practically covered up by the media? I believe the government even banned aerial photos of the incident.

                  There are other brands of sriracha sauce, even though foodie hipsters were freaking out over this. Kikkoman makes it as well.

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                  1. re: Atomic76
                    Veggo RE: Atomic76 Nov 4, 2013 06:32 PM

                    The government has not and can not ban photos of "the incident".

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                      Atomic76 RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 06:34 PM

                      http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marbl...

                      1. re: Veggo
                        FoodChic RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 08:04 PM

                        Actually, the Goverment has banned photos before...

                        http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/...

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                          The Chowhound Team RE: Veggo Nov 5, 2013 08:33 AM

                          Folks, let's try to stick to the sriracha issue, and not get into a discussion about all the other stories out there and how they do or don't get covered or covered up. Thanks.

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                        4X4 RE: ennuisans Nov 5, 2013 10:49 AM

                        The Oatmeal has a solution:

                        http://theoatmeal.com/comics/sriracha...

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