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Oct 28, 2013 04:14 AM

Bigots and food: now it is (gasp) Girl Scout Cookies

Some right wing moron named Kevin Swanson has decided that the Girl Scouts are agents of lesbianism and Communism and that you should not buy their cookies. Now, I normally don't buy their overpriced cookies (don't eat cookies and on the rare occasions I do, they'd better be REALLY GOOD which GS cookies are not) but this year, I am going to make a point of buying lots and lots of GS cookies.

A conservative pastor and radio host, who thinks "feminism has been devastating to the country," begged his listeners not to buy Girl Scouts Cookies because he claims the "wicked" organization promotes lesbianism and abortion.

"I don't want to support lesbianism, I don't want to support Planned Parenthood, and I don't want to support abortion. And if that be the case, I'm not buying Girl Scout cookies," Pastor Kevin Swanson grumbled on "Generations Radio."

Swanson upbraided the Girl Scouts for not promoting a biblical vision of "godly womanhood" and asked — if you absolutely must purchase the treats — to cross out every reference to the youth organization on the box with a black magic marker.

The Girl Scout Cookie Program aims to introduce girls to business and financial skills, a goal Swanson and his co-host, Dave Buehner, faulted.

On a personal note, my experience with the Girl Scouts - decades ago - was that they promoted conformity and true-blue American values, not individuality or "free-to-be-you-and-me."

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  1. Swanson has an audience of about 10. I look at this kind of thing as nothing more than a publicity stunt to get himself noticed. Had anyone ever heard of him before this?

    He's best ignored, IMO.

    1. Buehner added, "Are you trying to create a woman who's gonna compete with men in the marketplace, or are you trying to create a woman to be a helpmate to a man so that he can compete in the marketplace?"

      Ugh. I'm about to go lesbian out of spite. Maybe wear a GS cookie bikini and twerk on his lawn. With my girlfriend.

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      1. re: youareabunny

        That last paragraph is the best reason I've ever done a spit-take! I think I have a girl crush on Youareabunny.

          1. re: youareabunny

            and can we really watch (even if supportive of your sentiment)?

        1. re: youareabunny

          I fully support you on this. I do believe there is a "twerk" girlscout patch, which I will gladly sew upon your sash.

          1. re: youareabunny

            "Ugh. I'm about to go lesbian out of spite."

            Good luck with that. ;-)

            1. re: youareabunny

              <<<"Are you trying to create a woman who's gonna compete with men in the marketplace, or are you trying to create a woman to be a helpmate to a man so that he can compete in the marketplace?">>>>

              Why can't they do/be both??
              <<<<Maybe wear a GS cookie bikini and twerk on his lawn. With my girlfriend.>>>>>

              I would pay big money to see that!!! :))

                1. re: jrvedivici

                  That's fine.....Miss Bunny knows to save the best for last :))

              1. re: youareabunny

                I am inclined to get a sex change to become a woman, just so I can get a female partner and become a Girl Scout leader to piss this guy off. He sounds like a real nut.

                1. re: youareabunny

                  "Ugh. I'm about to go lesbian out of spite."

                  I'm down with the rest of your post - but please, please, please let's not bring back the worst of the "political lesbian" 80's.

                  1. re: ratgirlagogo

                    I hear ya, but did they make a difference? I think so.

                2. I was never a Girl Scout so I have no stake in this discussion but I totally disagree with you about the cookies ., people await the cookies each year and drool overt their favorites . Yes they are expensive and they have gotten smaller but in every office i have worked in , people have had no problem at all selling their childrens Girl scout cookies . In fact I have heard people be upset because no one asked them to purchase a few boxes .

                  People such as this Rev Swanson sound threatened and paranoid . Many Girl scout troops are sponsored by churches .

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                  1. re: saltylady

                    Some folks buy them because they have favorites. Most folks buy them grudgingly because they don't want to be viewed as the office Scrooge.

                    My husband buys them, then when dumps them off in the employee kitchen.

                  2. Oh good grief. Pasta, GS cookies, restaurant home state finally gave same sex couples the right to marry.

                    Here's what I think fear makes idiots out of some people. And I begin to feel idiotic pretty quickly when too much additional attention is offered.

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                    1. re: HillJ

                      I think extremists like him help shed light on issues. Sometimes it takes an incredible amount of absurdity to get people's attention and action.

                      1. re: youareabunny

                        If only :)

                        I say follow the money. Who pays for these programs to air? How many people follow fools?

                        Folks who draw their own conclusions, keep judgement at bay and don't buy into hatred DON'T need an extremist.

                        1. re: youareabunny

                          We are talking about a voluntary youth organization that's been around a gazillion years after all. I think it's disgusting that this would even make it to air.

                          Is the GS organization expected to spend time defending its leadership, national youth guidelines and programs?


                          1. re: HillJ

                            To me it draws attention to the broader issues that women and girls face. GS will be fine.

                            I've got many nay-sayer type of acquaintances. This sort of attack is the only thing that will draw their attention. It's something!

                            And I'm careful where I click. Not giving that guy a YouTube view, not even to thumbs down.

                            1. re: youareabunny

                              I wonder: GS will be fine. Orgs like the GS are easy targets for some, apparently. Picking on young girls who won't be defending themselves directly, adults will.

                              If you draw the conclusion that every individual with a open mind can enlighten those who lack one, good! Because the climb is an hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, life long project in humanity and let's face it, most of us give up at the first escalator.

                              1. re: HillJ

                                I'll add here that I no longer buy products from the Boy Scouts and won't until they formally change their policy. And,yes,I'll buy GS cookies and give them as gifts to support an organization that is helping us raise young women.

                                1. re: c oliver

                                  But the Boy Scouts did reverse their stance on openly gay scouts (I think the change is effective Jan 1, 2014). I know, because a local church booted the troop it had sponsored for decades as a result.

                                  1. re: gaffk

                                    I don't think gay leaders are allowed, but correct me if I'm wrong.

                                    1. re: linguafood

                                      Oh, you may be right . . . I don't follow these issues too closely. It just struck me when I read the article about the troop being evicted because it was allowing homosexuals.

                                      I never buy the boy scouts' overpriced popcorn, but I love the Girl Scout Thin Mints. I guess because I was a GS from brownies through cadets. (And amazingly, I never had an abortion AND I'm not a lesbian . . . go figure.)

                                        1. re: linguafood

                                          Still 'not allowed' but funding sources have also withdrawn support because of this standing policy.

                                          1. re: linguafood

                                            You are correct. My sons are both in scouts in a non-church affiliated troop.

                                            1. re: linguafood

                                              You are correct. Gay Boy Scout leaders are still not allowed. (at least not the ones they know about!)

                                              1. re: ChefJune

                                                Cause ya know they're trying to 'recruit' the boys. Can't be molest since the vast majority of pedophiles are hetero.

                                            1. re: HillJ

                                              UWay lost my funding decades ago.

                                              1. re: Veggo

                                                Mine too. But hundreds of individual charities do count on those funds each year.

                                                1. re: HillJ

                                                  And I didn't withdraw my support of the UWay over who they support but for how much of the funds they receive, they keep.

                                                  1. re: HillJ

                                                    IMO, it has been a corrupt enterprise, with egregiously overpaid executives supporting bogus and nefarious causes.

                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                      Dare I say we AGREE on something! It's actually possible..happy dance!

                                                        1. re: Veggo

                                                          Nah, let's break bread with cheese.

                                                          1. re: HillJ

                                                            I've got a feeling if you break the bread HillJ, Veggo will cut the cheese.

                                                            Lol I'm sorry I really do crack myself up!

                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                              LOL...This was crossing my mind as I typed it..

                                                        2. re: HillJ

                                                          I just feel I should disclose I was thrown out of the Cub Scouts.

                                                          No joke on this one, I was literally thrown out.

                                                          1. re: jrvedivici

                                                            Shocker! I was thrown out of ballet class for wearing orange instead of pink point shoes. That's until my Dad showed up with a check for Madame..then I could wear all the orange shoes I wanted :)

                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                              A family friend's daughter was thrown out of Brownies for calling the leader lady a "fat a$$ed b**ch." Her father sided with his daughter, and that was the end of her Scouting days.

                                                              1. re: KailuaGirl

                                                                Wow! I used to help with a troop and one little girl kept smacking me
                                                                On the butt and yelling "fatty" and running away. Wish that brat got kicked out!

                                                                1. re: KailuaGirl

                                                                  I punched my Scout Leader in the face. Just to clarify this wasn't an adult, it was a boy scout assistant to our den mother, I was still a cub scout, not boy scout.

                                                                  The Scout Leader was a Boy Scout who was helping his mom out as den mom, however he was also one of the cub scouts older brothers and a bit of a bully, so I punched him in the face for bullying us.

                                                                  He beat me up pretty good, but I did give him a black eye and since I threw the first punch, I was expelled.

                                                            2. re: Veggo

                                                              Is this the Mc Donald's executive compensation thread?

                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                Could be if you give me a minute...let me get my copy of the flight plan out...ha!

                                                                1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                  I touch all the bases. I left the Boy Scouts because I developed stronger interests in girls, alcohol, explosives, and drugs when I was about 13. I was a homeless waif at 15, and an Ivy League student at 17. They makes mistakes, too.

                                                              2. re: HillJ

                                                                Over 20 years ago our employer stopped donating to UW because of the BSA issue.

                                                              3. re: Veggo

                                                                Mine, too. When the religious crazies got them to withdraw funding from Planned Parenthood I stopped giving to UW and started giving to PP directly.
                                                                I've always bought GS cookies to support the daughters of friends, but don't get excited about them. I'd rather eat the ones I bake in my own oven, to tell you the truth.

                                                            3. re: c oliver

                                                              I'm not buying products from the Boy Scouts because they've now got the unmitigated gall to charge $20 (twenty bucks!!) for a bag of popped popcorn.

                                                              That popcorn better buy me dinner and take me dancing.

                                                                1. re: linguafood

                                                                  nah...that stretches the definition of "cougar" a little tighter than I'd want to try to fit into. It was Cub Scouts trying (in vain) to sell popcorn at the supermarket.

                                                                  People were giving them donations, because they weren't going to cough up a Jackson for a bag of popcorn (and it wasn't a very big bag...)

                                                                2. re: sunshine842

                                                                  I'll do that, but I need a permission note from your husband...:)

                                                                3. re: c oliver

                                                                  I'm on the same page as you are c oliver. When the local Boy Scouts were selling (outrageously priced) popcorn outside the supermarket a few weeks ago, I told them I couldn't support them until the organization changed their policies with regard to gays. Oh, and did I mention that my gay son is an Eagle Scout? (Yes, really!)

                                                                  1. re: CindyJ

                                                                    good for him, I got bored before I got anywhere close to Eagle. (but I AM Order of the Arrow!)

                                                                    1. re: hill food

                                                                      A good friend of mine was awarded the Silver Beaver's been almost 10 years since the ceremony, and I've finally managed to stop snickering every time he mentions it.

                                                                      Fortunately, he's a really good friend, and usually ends up laughing with me.

                                                      1. My favorite poster, which is soooooooo hard to find, is a pregnant Girl Scout with the motto "Be Prepared" underneath.

                                                        And being the person that I am, I asked them yesterday, "Are these made from real Girl Scouts?" before I bought my half dozen boxes.

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                                                        1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                                          You should be relieved to know there is a factory in Indonesia where only women of ages from 6-96 slave for 18 hours a day making cookies, the factory is called the "Girl-Scout" factory. So to answer your questions, yes they are made by "real" girl scouts. Enjoy!

                                                          (this is a completely fictitious statement)

                                                          1. re: jrvedivici

                                                            I think it was supposed to be an Addams Family reference. Not a factory comment.

                                                            1. re: melpy

                                                              There's a reason I'm often compared to a campfire, we are both cheerful, but neither are very bright.

                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                Never allow the truth to get in the way of a good story.

                                                          2. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                                            "Be Prepared" is actually the BOY Scout motto (maybe that's the point!).

                                                            1. re: Chowbird

                                                              If you think about it, a boy was definitely involved.

                                                              You can view the poster at


                                                              And it is yours for only $550.