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need tips for blind baking pie crust

trolley Oct 25, 2013 04:42 PM

i made a crust by following this recipe. http://sweets.seriouseats.com/2011/07...

blind baked the crust by following these steps:

poked holes on the bottom with a fork
lined it with foil and beans
baked it on the bottom for 12 min at 425
then for a few more minutes with the foil and beans off
let cool off for a few minutes then poured the custard
baked for 50 min

My 2 big issues:
the crust came out bumpy at the edges and shrank quite a bit. didn't get the scalloped edges i like after blind baking.

The bottom of the crust underneath was still baked but not as baked as I would like.

Can I blind bake until crisp? would that then burn my crust when I bake it the second time? I do cover the edges with foil.

I feel like I covered everything...

  1. trolley Oct 25, 2013 04:43 PM

    oh, here's the photo of the bumpy edge

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      youareabunny Oct 25, 2013 05:26 PM

      Chilling the dough before baking should prevent shrinkage. Also, some press the dough out further than they want, that way when it shrinks it'll do so to more or less the desired size.

      Similarly, some don't trim the dough until after it's baked. But that wouldn't work in your case since you want scalloped edges. So I'd say scallop your edges, the slightly push just below the scallops to extend the crust a bit, chill, then bake as you have been doing. Good luck!

      And if your bottom crust isn't cooking enough you can let the oven heat with a baking tray, then place the pie plate on that tray. That should give the bottom crust a head start

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      1. re: youareabunny
        trolley Oct 25, 2013 06:08 PM

        what do you think happened with the bumpiness?

        1. re: trolley
          youareabunny Oct 25, 2013 06:19 PM

          On the edges? Were your edges raggedy to begin with? Could be an issue of shrinkage and/or gluten that caused the edges to become jagged.

          Just found this thread which may be worth a read


          Ok so the link isn't posting right. Anyway it's called "help me beautify my edges"

          I particularly like this tidbit
          "Roll out your pie crust to about 13 inches for a 9 inch pie plate. Make sure the rolled dough is pressed into your pie plate and cut off any uneven excess so that you have about an inch overhang all the way around.
          Tuck the overhang under so you have a double thickness of dough resting on the rim of the pie plate. This should create a good, sturdy edge for you to crimp, twist or do whatever you'd like to do to it."

          Forgot to mention the tuck under method to you earlier. That may help.

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        sandylc Oct 25, 2013 06:18 PM

        Everything youareabunny said, plus you should actually FREEZE your formed, fork-poked dough for a bit before baking.

        Also, blind-bake it for longer.

        And, when form the dough and placed it in the pan, be careful not to stretch it AT ALL, or it will shrink back

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        1. re: sandylc
          youareabunny Oct 25, 2013 06:23 PM

          I've never frozen mine, probably because my freezer has been stuffed lately. It looks like trolley uses a ceramic pie plate. Will this be okay to go into a hot oven, or on top of a pre-heated baking sheet?

          I recently read the Pyrex exploding thread in cookware, and am paranoid :)

          I use a metal pie plate FWIW. The split decision pie pan

          1. re: youareabunny
            sandylc Oct 25, 2013 06:33 PM

            I use those disposable foil pans, because they make the crispest, brownest bottom...!

            1. re: sandylc
              trolley Oct 25, 2013 07:24 PM

              mine is an emile henry ceramic. i did put the molded crust in the freezer while the oven warmed up. maybe change to foil pan??

              1. re: trolley
                sandylc Oct 25, 2013 07:33 PM

                It isn't pretty, but it makes a great pie!

                Use your emile henry for displaying apples, maybe?

                1. re: sandylc
                  youareabunny Oct 25, 2013 07:41 PM

                  Cook in the metal tin, serve in the Emile Henry :)

                  Am not well versed re heat transference with metal vs ceramic...

              2. re: sandylc
                trolley Nov 27, 2013 04:46 PM

                i took your tip and baked my next crust in a tin pan. what a difference. in fact, i took all your advice and i think it worked out!! Thanks everyone! you guys are awesome!!

                1. re: trolley
                  sandylc Nov 27, 2013 04:48 PM

                  That looks beautiful! Good job!

                  1. re: sandylc
                    trolley Nov 27, 2013 06:36 PM

                    thanks sandylc! the other times were just rehearsals. tonight was the real show for T-Day prep so glad I got the tips before hand.

          2. greygarious Oct 25, 2013 07:37 PM

            If you have two identical metal or pyrex pans, you can sandwich the dough between them, then bake upside down.
            This keeps the dough flat and prevents shrinkage. This is in Jacques Pepin's Methode/Technique. You may want to put a piece of foil or parchment on the shelf below the one you're baking on, in case any of the shortening drips. I am not sure if that can happen.

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            1. re: greygarious
              youareabunny Oct 25, 2013 07:42 PM

              Great excuse to get more pans. I want to try that

              1. re: greygarious
                trolley Oct 25, 2013 09:11 PM

                ahh, will have to try that one day. I had to read that twice to figure out exactly what you were saying. i've decided to ditch the emile henry for pies and start with foil pans. it's a very nice pie pan but it's just not working for an open pie crust. i still don't understand why it started to bubble. but maybe it just wasn't enough. i'm trying to perfect this before the holidays.

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