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juicefriend Oct 25, 2013 01:19 PM

Dear Chowhounders, it's been a while since this question's been asked, I think. Any suggestions in Manhattan for good Taiwanese or Chinese beef noodles? Much appreciated!

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    YiReservation Nov 12, 2013 05:43 PM

    I generally find beef noodle soups from Szechuan restaurants are pretty good in terms of flavor. If you can handle the heat, try to order a bowl of spicy beef noodle soup from one of the better Szechuan restaurants in the city. A few names that come to mind are: Szechuan Gourmet, Legend, Land of Plenty, and Hot Kitchen.

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      ipsedixit Nov 12, 2013 07:06 PM

      If you're going to that route, better off at places like Super Taste, or Lam Zhou, etc.

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        YiReservation Nov 12, 2013 07:55 PM

        I do enjoy both Super Taste and Lam Zhou. I think the texture of their hand-pulled noodles is fantastic. However I think their broth is somewhat on the weaker side. Just my personal opinion though.

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        diprey11 Nov 13, 2013 05:52 AM

        @ YiReservation

        None of Sichuan restaurants in Manhattan make their own noodles. You will have to settle for dry noodles, if that's OK.

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          Lau Nov 13, 2013 05:59 AM

          usually their noodles are awful, but its been a long time since ive tried it at any of those places so i cant remember what the broth is like

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            YiReservation Nov 13, 2013 02:20 PM

            Yes unfortunately that's the fact of life. I wish I can combine the Lam Zhou pulled noodles with the broth from Szechuan restaurants.

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              diprey11 Nov 13, 2013 04:42 PM

              If you find travel to Flushing comfortable (a 40 min scenic 7 train ride from The Grand Central to the very end), please check out 老成都 on Prince St, just two blocks from the subway. It is a good, unpretentious place, and their cook hails from that area. Although I've never tried their noodles in soup, both noodles and the soup are good separately.:-)

              If you speak Chinese, please call them at (718) 886-5595 for details. Also, here is a short review: http://ny.worldjournal.com/view/full_nyb/21782280/article-%E8%80%81%E6%88%90%E9%83%BD%E5%B7%9D%E8%8F%9C%E9%A4%A8%E6%96%B0%E5%BC%B5

              An introduction from ScoopG in this forum: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/894017

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                YiReservation Nov 13, 2013 07:14 PM

                thanks! i passed by that place earlier this year when it just opened but have not gotten a chance to check it. Will pay my visit there soon.

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          juicefriend Nov 12, 2013 11:26 AM

          Dear hounds, thanks for your feedback and ideas. I tried Excellent, which, as Chandavki pointed out, was meh. And I went to Spicy Village--not bad! Agree, they need to hit that with a lot more vinegar, but also white pepper. I did go to this place, I think Bo Ky? Ok Vietnamese noodles, but the beef just wasn't flavorful/dark enough.

          I feel like a proper round-up in Manhattan must be a venture worth undertaking, because while the above were all meh, there were a TON of places advertising beef noodle soup.

          And I'm assuming ipsedixit, you're posting this as a joke rather than trolling. That's like if I asked for good sourdough and you said to eat a bagel instead. Both starches! :)

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            Lau Nov 12, 2013 11:30 AM

            wrong dish to get at bo ky, this is the one to get: https://www.lauhound.com/2010/12/bo-k...

            there are lots of fuzhou run lanzhou style beef noodle soup places, I've been to basically all of them. Super taste is the best one. They have good noodles, but their soup and broth is weak. Spicy Village is the best one in the manhattan, but its different than traditional beef noodle soup

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              juicefriend Nov 12, 2013 03:23 PM

              Thanks Lau, great post! I also got the cambodian noodles, should have mentioned that, but seemed off topic. You have a great site! Ever thought about organising a food tasting?

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                Lau Nov 12, 2013 03:37 PM

                Thanks!

                ive gone out to eat with people a few times, but never really thought about organizing a food tasting really...kind of seems like a pain given people's schedules and what not haha

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              ipsedixit Nov 12, 2013 11:41 AM

              And I'm assuming ipsedixit, you're posting this as a joke rather than trolling.
              _____________________

              Neither.

              I lack the sense of humor to joke, and I'm too ugly to be a troll (even an ugly one).

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                juicefriend Nov 12, 2013 12:42 PM

                Way to make me feel REALLY bad now. :)

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                  ipsedixit Nov 12, 2013 02:11 PM

                  Ok, ok, here's the deal.

                  My recommendation was a back-handed sleight at the state of Taiwanese 牛肉湯麵 in Manhattan.

                  It doesn't suck; there's just none to be had.

                  I could've been totally snarky and said go to Flushing, or worse yet, San Gabriel Valley in Los Angeles.

                  So instead of sending you looking for unicorns, I simply suggested the next best alternative, donkeys.

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                    Lau Nov 12, 2013 02:46 PM

                    as an actual alternative you could try bassanova which i think is excellent (I'm writing it up now)

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                      ipsedixit Nov 12, 2013 03:35 PM

                      Awesome. I eagerly await your report.

                      I walked by the place when they first (soft?) opened, but it was just too hot in August to slurp a bowl of ramen.

                      Did you use their bathrooms by chance? If so, incl. in report please!

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                        Lau Nov 12, 2013 03:38 PM

                        haha what? why is there something special about their bathrooms?? (i have not used them!)

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                          ipsedixit Nov 12, 2013 03:40 PM

                          You gotta go back.

                          What goes on in the bathroom, stays in the bathroom ...

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                            howdini Nov 12, 2013 06:37 PM

                            "What goes on in the bathroom, stays in the bathroom..."

                            l certainly hope so!

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                            ipsedixit Nov 12, 2013 03:46 PM

                            You know what would be über-cool?

                            If you could somehow get a handful of fresh handpulled noodles from Tasty next door and get Bassanova to pair them with the Tonkotsu broth. Yum.

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                          howdini Nov 12, 2013 06:35 PM

                          Can't wait to read that: l passed by bassanova last week, and l wondered what the deal is.

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                          howdini Nov 12, 2013 04:47 PM

                          ls St. Alp's Taiwanese, or merely Taiwanese-ish?

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                            Lau Nov 12, 2013 05:48 PM

                            ipsedixit - haha ok ill go check out the bathroom. And yes the thing is the lanzhou handpulled noodle places really do make good noodles but their broth and beef...

                            howdini - i think its originally taiwanese

                            everyone - if anyone is listening, open up a real beef noodle shop...i will pay $10+ a bowl and you can pay chinatown rent...DO IT. NY needs a new hot thing this is your chance!

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                              YiReservation Nov 12, 2013 06:59 PM

                              not a noodle shop owner but i've been dreaming about opening up one lol ... in the meantime I have shared what I consider a decent bowl of spicy beef noodle soup: http://yireservation.com/recipes/spic...

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                              juicefriend Nov 12, 2013 06:20 PM

                              It's not bad. I grew up in Taiwan, and it's not superfar off. The PB obsession and thick toast certainly sounds familiar.

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                                howdini Nov 12, 2013 06:39 PM

                                Thanks; l've eaten there a couple of times, l think both times had a meat-over-rice dish, and thought it was good, but l'm totally ignorant of Taiwanese food.

                    2. ipsedixit Nov 10, 2013 06:31 PM

                      Eat ramen instead.

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                        Lau Nov 10, 2013 05:21 PM

                        sad answer, but there is not one taiwanese beef noodle soup place really worth trying in NY.

                        i think the spicy beef brisket noodle soup at spicy village is pretty good, make sure to hit with the black vinegar and chili oil on the table, def makes it better
                        https://www.lauhound.com/2013/03/spic...

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                          howdini Nov 12, 2013 10:32 AM

                          l have that delivered to me at work pretty frequently: it's a great dish.

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                            Lau Nov 12, 2013 11:26 AM

                            oh yah? its like a 5 min walk from my apt, so i stop in sometimes on the weekends for a quick lunch

                            the lady is also really nice there, so happy to bring my business there

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                              howdini Nov 12, 2013 11:47 AM

                              She's super-nice on the phone, too, and they have the address of the club where l work saved in their system, so delivery is never a problem. l keep forgetting to ask them if they can do a half order of Big Tray Chicken...

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                          Chandavkl Oct 25, 2013 09:21 PM

                          Not much Taiwanese in Manhattan. Excellent Pork Chop House is the only place I can think of. More choices in Flushing, though.

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