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So what's the average Chowhound's Race / Ethnicity?

Before anybody thinks I'm trying to stir some kind of pot let me reference this link to a post on the Food News and Media board;


After reading this it just got me thinking......are the majority of contributors here on Chow Asian as this thread indicates? Honestly, I was surprised already to see how many posters in that thread stated they were Asian, not that it matters in any way, I've seen many threads about our weight, age, profession etc. I just figured after reading that thread it would be an interesting experiment to test that theory here in our own back yard.

I'll start;

White male Italian & English heritage

(I did a quick search using the terms race and ethnicity and didn't see any threads of this nature, if it has been done before my apologies)

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    1. re: linguafood

      Ditto, although I'm American-born. At least 90% of my ancestry is German and NO ONE is surprised when I say so. I wear my Valkyrie looks with pride. :)

          1. re: linguafood

            I grew up on the stuff myself. As to my heritage I'd say half kraut, a quarter goulash and a quarter haggis.

          2. White female and for heritage my Mom always told me I was Irish/French/German/Swedish/Dutch, meaning nobody really knows.

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            1. re: SaraAshley

              Here I thought that I was a real UN-baby, but you have me, by at least one country. Now, I feel inferior.


              1. re: Bill Hunt

                Aww....like I said, nobody really knows. I might only be one, or none of those things. Don't be defeated yet!

            2. Before you start, can we clarify one thing? The definition of "Asian"? The reason is that the term is often refer to East Asians like Chinese and Japanese in US, while the term is usually refer to South Asian, like Indians and Pakistans in Europe.

              Or do you want to include both?

              Sorry, but I thought it will be important set the definition first. Thanks.

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              1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                CK to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure, that's why I posted Race/Ethnicity to kind of leave it open. Also why I guess my "race" is white, I also added being Italian & English.

                I say just go with the flow and describe how you identify yourself, I don't think there are any wrong answers here.

                **Edit, actually I guess the true question would have to be answered by Monica, since it's her post that motivated mine.

                1. re: jrvedivici

                  <**Edit, actually I guess the true question would have to be answered by Monica, since it's her post that motivated mine.>

                  Wow, you are good. :)

                2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                  I work at a busy surgeon's office in Boston. We are now being mandated by the Federal Government to ask "race, ethnicity and language". Under that mandate, the Asian race umbrella includes Indians and Pakistans. :)

                  I don't know if that is what the op's inquiry is in this post though.


                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                      Killer whale? You EAT baby seals???? <sob> '-)

                      1. re: Caroline1

                        Ha ha ha. Not Orca. Orc. I belong to a proud shamanic tribe. The Horde is strong.

                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                          May the Hord be with you! '-)

                          Also The Herd, but that may be too much barking up The Golden Bough! <double '-)>

                      2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                        My ancestors are Welsh, from Wales...
                        When I was little, I'd tell my friends I was part whale :)

                        1. re: OhioHound

                          that's so cute! and I am sure your friends believed it...just like when my husband told my 5 yr daughter that he met Peter Pan when he was a little boy. so cute.

                      1. East Asian Male. Chinese ethnicity -- but really wish I am a Mongolian and can shoot bow and arrow from a horseback....etc.

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                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                          I'm Canadian, female and whitish. My people are 75% Russian and Lithuanian Jews, and 25% English WASPs. My husband's family is 75% German and 25% Welsh. Our household is definitely European, yet our tastes skew toward Asian countries. By Asian, I mean everything east of Europe.

                          1. re: 1sweetpea

                            < Our household is definitely European, yet our tastes skew toward Asian countries. By Asian, I mean everything east of Europe.>

                            I have a question. Since the Earth is round (fairly round), would Mexican food be those of East or Europe foods? :P

                            By the way, I do like a lot of Middleastern foods despite that I am not knowledgeable about them.

                            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                              Mexican food is a "New World" food. And "Mexican food" is about as close as we can come in the world today to true ethnic "Native American" food, though there are undoubtedly traces in many Central and South American cultures. How many people who love "beef jerky" have ever had true authentic Native American pemmican? "New World food" has pretty much been assimilated and lost to the point that we don't even have "identifiers" for it in our normal language of today. Say "Mexican food" to most people in the world today and they will think "TexMex" or "CalMex" or "border food." NO ONE thinks of Moctezuma's hot chocolate! Possibly not even Mexicans. '-)

                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                  hmmmm... good question! My guess is that if you live in London, it is west of Europe, but if you live in Beijing it is east of Europe....

                                  If you're not confused yet, I'm just not trying hard enough! '-)

                                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                      Yeah, but I knew what you were talking about. The term "Far East" comes down to us from the time of the Portuguese Black Ships, Christopher Columbus's chats with good Queen Isabella, and all that jazz. It's old western European terminology that is global-eccentric! So what else is new? '-)

                                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                    Everywhere is east of anywhere if you go far enough around. :)

                                  2. re: Caroline1

                                    Now, here in Arizona, there ARE several examples of Native American (of the region - and many, many regions exist) cuisine, plus some variations on Mexican, New Mexican (depending on the location, a bit of Indio and Mexican), and then Spanish. Some of that same cuisine does exist in New Mexico, and a tiny bit of California. However, in very general terms, I do agree with you.

                                    For me (and for my wife), none of those is really part of our ancestral culinary culture, but that does not mean that we cannot enjoy them.


                                    1. re: Caroline1

                                      Is permmican more authentically Native American than jerky? One word derives from Cree (M├ętis, Canada), the other from Quechua (via Spanish). But people have been drying meat where ever possible for centuries. And pounding it to shreds or powder (e.g. machaca) to cook and eat. Rendered fat (the other key ingredient to pemmican) is also known world over, and mostly comes Old World animals.

                                      1. re: paulj

                                        Well, one big difference for openers is that true "Native American" pemmican was NEVER made from beef, it was made from WILD buffalo, and you can't hardly get them critters no more! '-)

                                        Anyway, here's a great website about pemmican that's a pretty reliable source... It's from a tribal council of Native Americans! A really fascinating website! And if anyone is interested in true bonafide Neolithic (as opposed to paleolithic) diet, most (if not all) of the recipes on this website should fill the bill.


                                        1. re: Caroline1

                                          and the original charqui was made from llama.

                                          a good description of pemmican as produced and used in the Canadian fur trade.

                                          An interesting point is that the fat has to be rendered to have a long shelf life. That is easier done in European metal pots than hide lined earth pits.

                                          Food, like most posters, is multicultural.

                                          1. re: paulj

                                            Had to share this, a recipe using pemmican

                                            You take as much pemmican as you think will be eaten, and having
                                            thawed it at the fire, you beat it up into fibers and put it into a
                                            frying-pan with some grease. You then take some boiled
                                            potatoes and mash them up with a fork, and stir them in, adding
                                            salt and pepper to taste, and the result is "rubbi boo." Eaten
                                            hot, and taking care to be very hungry, it is not bad, and the
                                            hungrier you are the better it will be.


                                            p81(98) of the same describes making pemmican itself.

                                            The name 'rubbiboo' may be derived from 'burgoo'.

                                          2. re: Caroline1

                                            Ground buffalo (bison) is available in every mainstream grocery store in the Twin Cities. I don't know about the grocery stores in outstate Minnesota.

                                            1. re: John E.

                                              Bison jerky is also easy to find.

                                              Here is pemmican
                                              how ever it is beef.

                                              is a bison and cranberry bar. No fat. Bison is often billed as being lean. Plains Indians had to crack and render marrow bones to get fat.

                                              Looks like the Paleo folks are increasing interest products like this.

                                          3. re: paulj

                                            For openers, true Native American pemmican was only and always made with dried buffalo meat, animal tallow, and often some sort of vegetation (frequently berries) to give a more nutrient balanced meal. And the traditional pemmican was NEVER made with beef!

                                            You can find a lot of interesting information (including a general recipe) here:


                                            "Jerky" usually refers to dry-cured (salt) beef or other lean meats.

                                            1. re: Caroline1

                                              Sorry, but pemmican was made with any dried meat (deer, antelope, rabbit, bear, etc.), poultry, or fish; plus fat, and sometimes berries or grains.

                                              As for that website... There is some factual information, and some that seems basically thrown together as if by a college student researching texts in the library. There are many websites and people claiming to be Native American. Many have a heck of a lot of untruths and partial truths to them. Some are endorsed by various counsels, just like casino's are endorsed by various counsels, but the N.A. don't always have much control over either.

                                              I am part Lakota Sioux / Oglala & Hunkpapa and as an undergrad I majored in anthropology of Native Americans. During and after college I spent five summers on several reservations, mostly Pine Ridge in the South Dakota Badlands. Mentoring kids and spending time with the Elders. I studied the languages which are almost lost, and many aspects of philosophy and culture. I even have one of only 25 known copies of one of the lost language dictionaries. I was part of many ceremonies, and hunted and vision quested many times in traditional ways. I also learned a lot about how much unproven and made up information people spout when it comes to Native Americans. During grad school I was in Seattle and spent a lot of time with Native Americans in Washington state as well. A lot of Sioux ended up there, besides the remainder of the PNW tribes.

                                              The bison / buffalo were mostly in the mid-west and west, especially the Plains, because they mostly eat grasses. This was an area that had very few Native Americans living there for most of history. Winters were terrible without much cover/trees and not much water was available in much of the area except for a few large rivers. Civilization tends to form around rivers, lakes, and coastlines. The "Plains" tribes were actually Eastern coastal and inland tribes that got pushed westward due to the Europeans taking over the coasts and each tribe moving away from them, and so pushing other tribes more and more westward. A domino effect. The whole Plains and horse warrior tribes was only a 85 year piece of history. I'm not saying there weren't some tribes living off bison, but not long historically speaking for the majority.

                                              1. re: JMF

                                                I gather from the Canadian sources that the large scale production of pemmican from bison was tied to the fur trade, with the Indians and Metis providing the dried meat, and trading posts doing most of the processing. It was consumed in large quantities by the voyageurs.

                                                Years ago I took some linguistics classes, and as part of a 'field methods' class studied Michif (Turtle Mountain, ND), a French/Cree mix. Didn't get into the food culture or vocabulary.

                                                1. re: paulj

                                                  One summer back over 20 years ago I was once part of a group that did a recreation of one of the Voyageurs trips using the same style huge 25-30' canoes, going several hundred miles through Canada and Minnesota. Including the "Grand Portage." (I've done the Grand Portage several times. Each time I swore never again. Carrying canoes on your shoulders, or 100+ lb. food and gear packs for over 8 miles over land is sheer hell.) We ate much of the same foods they did, even pemmican. While it was fun as an adventure, it actually really was terrible in many ways. I came out of the experience amazed that those men could live like that, and carry such insanely enormous weights as well.

                                                  That following winter we did some of the winter routes like the Voyageurs did by dogsled and cross country skis. It was so cold, and we burnt so many calories, that raw bacon and its fat was like candy. Pure calories and salt. We figured we were burning 7,500-10,000 calories a day.

                                                  1. re: JMF

                                                    I've seen some episodes of 'Quest for the Bay', a York boat reenactment. Their diet was basically pemmican, bannock, and oatmeal.

                                        1. My father's father (and some of his siblings) were born near Naples, Italy.

                                          My father's mother was Napolitana and Cuban.

                                          My mother's father was Russian and culturally Jewish, though not observant.

                                          My mother's mother was French Canadian (Quebec City and French-speaking Tignish, PEI).

                                          I'm just plain old American, born here and part of a racially and ethnically and religiously diverse family. I don't check boxes that ask me if I'm Hispanic or white or whatever. If anything, I'm a Lawrencian (Lawrence, MA) by birth and childhood.

                                          1. Italian, 100%. Is there an echo in here?

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                                            1. basic northern European mutt; English, French, Scottish, Swedish, Norwegian (that we know about...who knows what else there might be!).

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                                              1. re: kcshigekawa

                                                Mutts are adorable. Oh, wait, you are talking human mutt.

                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                  well, my mother always TOLD me I was adorable...


                                              2. English and Irish on both sides of the family, the Cherokee skipped me completely. I don't know if people come any whiter.

                                                1. African and Caribbean American, but relatively fair skinned, so......

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                                                  1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                    Forgot to give a shout out to my paternal grandma! I'm told "Blackfoot" Indian, but "Lightfoot" is the name....

                                                    1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                      African/caribbean but fair skinned.....What?! What ?what?

                                                      1. re: blueways

                                                        I know, right?

                                                        And just RELATIVELY fair skinned, here in the US, but in Nigeria I met with a GREAT deal of skepticism regarding my......lineage. Sort of made me think about it.

                                                        1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                          The question was "What's your race/ethnicity?", not "What's your complexion?". That's what threw probably blueways off.

                                                          1. re: Kashmirgirl

                                                            Well, my friend is Egyptian by origin. When she was young, she filled out her college application as "African-American" by ethnicity. She even got a scholarship. Then, of course, they find out that she is not black, and withdrew the scholarship.

                                                            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                              Since you specified Egyptian do you mind if I ask, did she walk like one?

                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                No, not really. I think the Egyptian walk has died many thousand years ago after the Alexander conquered Egypt.


                                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                  But Steve Martin made it oh so current!

                                                                  1. re: mcf

                                                                    "He gave his life for tourism!" And while we're on the topic of race/ethnicity, "He's my favorite honky!"

                                                                2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                  Way OT but... You do know that ancient Egyptians didn't walk like that, don't you? Just checking. LOL

                                                                  (The artisan images of the human body we see in ancient Egyptian art represents only that the body had one head, two arms, two legs, etc. They were more interested in aligning the body within a specific grid pattern so that the "human code information" was not lost by presenting the body at an angle.)

                                                                  1. re: Gio

                                                                    Gio, I thought the walk started with the song by the Bangles....

                                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                                      Uh Uh V. Their hair's too big. Their beat's all wrong.

                                                                3. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                  I get what your saying, but really? Aside from some Native American rules, college stuff usually lets you self identify.Did they do genetic testing, or did s/he just fess up? OTOH, for most racial definitions, African means sub-Saharan.

                                                                4. re: Kashmirgirl

                                                                  Yeah, I know. I guess I got carried away. I just meant I'm pretty sure my race/ethnicity is not all "African".

                                                                  1. re: Shrinkrap

                                                                    I got it totally. I'm fair-skinned as well. I'm African-American, European, and Native American.

                                                          2. Irish. A big walking melonoma in Southern California,

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                                                            1. re: LA Buckeye Fan

                                                              LOL! And I HOPE it isn't true for you!!!!

                                                              1. re: LA Buckeye Fan

                                                                Hey, I have a great dermatologist in Phoenix, who cuts and pastes on me quarterly. I completely understand. Spending one's life on a beach (Gulf South), and then skiing the High Country, plus hiking the Desert Southwest, have taken the same toll.


                                                                1. re: Harters

                                                                  I guess that's much shorter than saying you are, 5% Irish, 2% French, 8% German, 15% Italian....etc..etc...etc...

                                                                  1. re: Harters

                                                                    From my son about 10 years ago when he was 5-ish;

                                                                    Dad, if you're American when you are out of the bathroom, then what are you when you're in the bathroom?

                                                                    Me: Son I have no idea

                                                                    Son: When you're in the bathroom European! (You're-a-peeing)

                                                                      1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                        Where are you the first thing in the morning?

                                                                          1. re: Veggo

                                                                            You need to let your girlfriend stay at your place.

                                                                            1. re: mucho gordo

                                                                              It is so amazing that these conversations are between two dogs and one cat.

                                                                        1. Chikasaw tribe/Irish bred Navy raised southern loving native born American.

                                                                          1. 100% born and bred suburbanite New Yorker...Ashenazi Jew on both sides. 3/4 grandparents born here and 1 came over from Russia in early 1900's. I think where i was raised and how we did food defines who I am as a Jew culturally ( ie- FOOD) but being a stone's throw from NYC influenced my sense of exposure and adventure to eating things that were unique and different.

                                                                            1. I really like GH1618's answer, "Human.", but that really dodges a sincere question, so here goes....

                                                                              On my father's side, I am a 5th generation Native Californian! A rare breed indeed! The family surname from my paternal grandfather is Welch, but who knows for sure? But there are also Welch surnames on my paternal grandmother's side, so maybe "Welch" extraction is a reasonable partial answer. My mother was born in Belfast, Ireland, of "migratory" northern England "Sunderland" extraction, and about as Brit as you can get if you don't consider a possible "Roman in the woodpile" a millennia or so back... So that is MY "ethnic" bg. My second husband had a strictly Germanic surname, so many people unreasonably assume I am German, and some have even addressed me in that language because of my current surname. (I shoulda got rid of the surname when I got rid of the husband, but hey, the kids were "youngish." <sigh>)

                                                                              But I don't think anyone's "food proclivities" are all tied to their "ethnic" background. Growing up, as in "early elementary school" I had three very close girlfriends at whose homes I spent a great deal of time: One was Nisei Japanese (parents born in Japan and naturalized U.S. citizens), one was the daughter of German immigrants who owned the largest dairy in Southern California at the time), and the third friend was African American with a heavy soul food diet at home,

                                                                              sooooooo... From an early age, "Foods of the World" have been a natural instinct. They were fostered by travels, but especially by residing in other countries so that, as in childhood, I got a broad taste of the culture along with the "recipes."

                                                                              And because of this background, and a deep appreciation for "authentic" "ethnic" dishes, I really hate fusion cooking. Over the web, I have actually seen "Spaghetti Tacos" on a menu! Somebody oughta be shot...!!!

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                                                                              1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                But the original post wasn't about ethnicity influencing "food proclivities". It had more to do with who is most likely to "blog".

                                                                                The problem with THIS poll, and the original one is, that they are never really random.

                                                                                Folks click and post for a variety of reasons.

                                                                                What made each of us want to blog about our ethnicity, while others avoid clicking or responding?

                                                                                I generally get the impression there are not a lot of other black folk that hang out on the forums I hang out on, so I always look at threads that mention ethnicity.

                                                                                1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                  Sorry, but isn't it Welsh? Isn't welch to renege on a deal?

                                                                                  1. re: roxlet

                                                                                    You never met my father. The family joke was that he was Welch. And so he was. Sorry it crept in!

                                                                                      1. re: roxlet

                                                                                        And just for the record, and to hopefully ensure my smart-ass answer doesn't lead anyone astray, "Welch" is a variant spelling of "Welsh." I don't know if it's more commonly used in Britain than the US, but I was raised with "English English."

                                                                                        1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                          "Welch" is not commonly used these days in British English. It's pretty much a word from before the latter half of the 19th century. It hung on in certain regards - for instance, one of our army regiments has been variously called the Royal Welch Fusiliers and the Royal Welsh Fusiliers.

                                                                                          1. re: Harters

                                                                                            How do people who have lived in Wales for generations, and have married others who's family have also lived in Wales for generations, self identify?

                                                                                            1. re: John E.

                                                                                              I've no idea, John, as I'm not Welsh, nor do I live in Wales. But, if I had to guess, I would say they would regard themselves as "Welsh", because, as I said, that is the modern usage.

                                                                                              Of course, for those for whom Welsh is their first language, I think they would describe themselves as "Gymraes" or "Gymro", depending on if they were female or male (I don't speak Welsh apart from a few words, so apologies to anyone if I have this wrong)

                                                                                            2. re: Harters

                                                                                              Sounds like the right time frame to me! As child growing up in California (before TV, but we did have radio!), I LOVED listening to stories that my maternal grandparents would tell me of their lives in England when they were young. One of my favorite stories my grandmother would tell is of when she was nineteen and stood on the "kerb" for hours in front of a millinery shop in ... hmmm... it was in Sunderland, or Newcastle upon Tyne, or maybe South Shields, just waiting to catch a glimpse of Queen Victoria as she passed by in her open carriage. Heaven knows where the Queen was going, but my grandmother was nineteen when this occurred, in her sixties or so when she relayed the tales to me, and I was no more than very early teens and I'm now 80, so the time frame sounds about right.

                                                                                              Thanks, Harters! You've helped me pin down another language fluke of mine. Just for old times sake, note my spelling of "kerb." I don't think many use it any more. Or at least I don't see it in print unless I read very old books. Rule Britannia! '-)

                                                                                              1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                Caroline darlin', you are a Welsh I would bet on!

                                                                                                1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                  I thought that Welsh was a rare breed of rabbit! '-)

                                                                                                  1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                    Oh, very good, Caroline. :-0

                                                                                                    "Kerb" is correct current usage in British English - for the stonework that lines the pavement - as in when you park the car, you want it tight to the kerb.

                                                                                                    1. re: Harters

                                                                                                      So in the UK, it should be "Kerb Your Enthusiasm" ? ;-)

                                                                                            3. re: Caroline1

                                                                                              And here I wanted to lick you assuming you came from a long lineage of fine jelly's !!

                                                                                    1. Mm, half Irish, half Italian second generation Romulan. And earthlings thought they ate well.

                                                                                      1. 100% mutt. Irish, English, Scottish, Portuguese, Blackfoot Indian, Mohawk Indian, and Comanche indian,.

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                                                                                        1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                          Oops. I feel stupid for forgetting French. Duh, my last name is French.

                                                                                        2. White Male
                                                                                          5th generation American
                                                                                          Paternal side came from Suwalki Province in what is now Belarus, but has been: Poland, Russia, Prussia and Lithuania
                                                                                          Maternal side from Bavaria, Germany
                                                                                          Ethnically-Jewish...so those traditional foods of the European homeland are made without pork or mixing meat and dairy products..................

                                                                                          Mrs. B (who occassionally post using my name) is 3rd generation American of Lithuanian/Russian-Jewish heritage

                                                                                          Youngest B child is from Guanzho, China, considers herself ethnically Jewish, never checks Asian when asked her race on a questionaire

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                                                                                          1. re: bagelman01

                                                                                            When you say ethically Jewish, I think you meant culturally/religiously Jewish. Right?

                                                                                            1. re: John E.

                                                                                              No, she considers herself ethnically Jewish...a complete adoption.

                                                                                              1. re: bagelman01

                                                                                                As far as I know, several different ethnicities follow the Jewish religion. Which one is she?

                                                                                                    1. re: Steve

                                                                                                      Well isn't it both? I don't think Sammy Davis Jr. was ethnically Jewish.

                                                                                                      1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                        Why not? We firmly put him in the plus column!

                                                                                                        I guess we are getting into 'defining your terms,' and I am down with what I find in the dictionary.

                                                                                                        I do have to say one thing: I find it mildly offensive (albeit amusing) whenever people use the term 'ethnic restaurant' to mean a place that is not European.

                                                                                                        1. re: Steve

                                                                                                          <whenever people use the term 'ethnic restaurant' to mean a place that is not European.>

                                                                                                          Let's face it. Everyone judges from his/her experience. So if they are European/European-influenced, then anything non-European is ethnic. I do agree with you. It is odd to hear this.

                                                                                                          Steve, were you the one who has a cartoon puppy icon? What happened to it?

                                                                                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                            Sorry, I have never used an avatar.

                                                                                                            "Let's face it. Everyone judges from his/her experience."

                                                                                                            In China do they post, "I am looking for a good restaurant near The Forbidden City. SIchuanaese, Hunanese, even Vietnamese or Thai is ok, but no ethnic."

                                                                                                            1. re: Steve

                                                                                                              Must be a different Steve.

                                                                                                              To use "Ethnic" to describe foreign food may be is unique, and unusual. I wonder if Europeans do that as well. In China, I think they just say things like "But no Western food" or "But no Middleastern food"....etc.

                                                                                                              1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                Chemical - certainly in my part of Europe, we'd describe some foreign food as "ethnic" - but really only that related to non-white immigrant communities (i.e. primarily from Asia, Africa and the Caribbean). We wouldnt generally describe, say, Italian food as "ethnic".

                                                                                                                1. re: Harters


                                                                                                                  I remember you are from UK, no? So I assume anything like Indian, Chinese, Iranian or Mexican foods would be described as ethnic, while Italians, German and French are not.

                                                                                                                  What about something kind of in the middle? Like Polish food or Greek food or Turkish food or Spanish food?

                                                                                                          2. re: Steve

                                                                                                            Growing up we used the term ethnic to refer to restauarnts that were not American or Italo-American. So a Hungarian Restaurant, a Rissian Restaurant or a French Restaurant were both European and ethnic

                                                                                                            1. re: bagelman01

                                                                                                              On Chowhound French or Italian-Anything is not usually lumped in with 'ethnic.'

                                                                                                              When I was growing up (60s Long Island), there was only Italian, Continental, and Howard Johnson's. Chinese or Mexican would have been considered ethnic, and the others didn't exist.

                                                                                                              1. re: Steve

                                                                                                                I grew up in Queens at the same time. We ate anything and everything, with hour or more trips on busses and trains into Manhattan. I especially remember a lunch at the Russian Tearoom after yet another failed tryout for something. But the most "exotic" memory was the shrimp toast on a pu pu platter.

                                                                                                                May not be an accurate memory, but I'm keeping it!

                                                                                                                Also remembering headcheese, hog maw, chitterlins and souse. How were they different?

                                                                                                                1. re: Steve

                                                                                                                  Steve...Chowhound wasn't around 50& years ago. When my aunt and uncle moved to Plainview in 1965 there was also Chinese and kosher deli....

                                                                                                                  1. re: Steve

                                                                                                                    Sounds like the same as me, only growing up in Boston.

                                                                                                                    Then when I turned 20, my husband got stationed in Charleston, S.C. Not only was there no Italian restaurants, but no ingredients in the Piggly Wiggley to even make a lasagna. They had no idea what ricotta cheese was. :)

                                                                                                                    I was in total culture shock. Grits... what's a grit? Lol!


                                                                                                            2. re: Steve

                                                                                                              I'm not Jewish, but it seems closer to a culture rather than an ethnicity. Think eastern European Jews and Sephardic Jews. Their ethnicity is not necessarily similar.

                                                                                                              1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                I don't want to seem old-fashioned, but being Jewish is following Judaism, a religion. Attached to that is a very rich culture, but first and foremost it is a religion.

                                                                                                                1. re: Tripeler

                                                                                                                  I have a Thai friend who is married to a Jewish guy and she converted to Judaism when she got married. Is she Jewish? She considers herself Thai...
                                                                                                                  My Korean mom asked me to ask my Jewish husband to convert to Catholicism when we got married but I told her..that's impossible...because being Jewish is not only a religious thing but...it's the both the religious and cultural thing..it's like you are asking him to stop being and practice whatever he was for last 35 yrs of life.

                                                                                                                  1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                    She is also Jewish if she converted- She is Thai and her religion is Jewish.

                                                                                                                    1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                      You can group yourself into more than one ethnicity, if that's what you are asking.

                                                                                                                      Ethnic groups can be based on where you are from, where you live now, religion, what language you speak, any number of things actually.

                                                                                                                      1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                        I am pretty sure there have been Jews who have converted to other religions. It is not impossible. It would be your husband's choice whether or not to continue the customs of Judaism outside of attending synagogue.

                                                                                                                    1. re: Steve

                                                                                                                      Watch this excellent documentary by The Naked Archaeologist (Simcha Jacobovici):


                                                                                                                    1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                                      I am genetically as far as I can tell, English and Scotch Irish. By choice, I am Sephardic Jewish.....Spanish. Born in NC, by choice Spanish and Jewish.

                                                                                                                    2. re: bagelman01

                                                                                                                      That is interesting! Do you mind saying how old she is?

                                                                                                                        1. re: bagelman01

                                                                                                                          Ah! So perhaps she has not yet seen the "common app"? There is an evolving and interesting approach to "identifying".

                                                                                                                2. On my moms side 5th generation American. My dads side was first generation.

                                                                                                                  It has been way too long for me credit my long gone generational heritage to say it it has had any major influence on my food likes/dislikes. So while I make my families Portuguese recipes handed down from many grandmothers I also grew up making many other "ethnic" foods that my grandparents and parents made that I consider just as much part of my heritage. The scottish side has had zero influence. I learned to love shortbread and good scotch with no help from family, LOL.

                                                                                                                    1. I just realized that you didn't simply ask for CHOWHOUND's participates' racial background (their races). You actually asked for the "Averaged CHOWHOUND Race"


                                                                                                                      How do you plan to average the race? Let's say 5 responders said that they are African descents, and 5 said that they are European descents. Would you average them into Middleeastern or something. :P

                                                                                                                      I am looking forward to your method of averaging. :D

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                                                                                                                      1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                        You are being wicked again, aren't you!

                                                                                                                        Kindred spirits. :-)

                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                          I'd also quibble that the referenced thread didn't indicate that the majority of CHers are Asian, but that there's an inordinate number of Asians on Yelp and writing food blogs.

                                                                                                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                            Yes Ck you've got me on a technicality, I was trying to copy the several other poll type threads there were. I will consult with you when it comes time to create our new Chow race.

                                                                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                              :P You know that I was just teasing, right?

                                                                                                                          2. Dad's side was 100% Irish, but was at least 5th gen American. Also, given his dark skin and hair, I strongly suspect there was some Spanish Armada genes in there.

                                                                                                                            Mom's maternal side was also long-standing Irish American. Her father would never reveal his nationality, but she did some research and discovered he was second generation "Austrian,"--as in Austro-Hungarian; his parents were born in what's now the Czech Republic, but was historically Bohemia. His birth certificate bore a very Germanic name which was magically transformed to an Irish-sounding name sometime around WWI (go figure).

                                                                                                                            So, to summarize: I'm American.

                                                                                                                            1. What the heck, why not...

                                                                                                                              My father was a Finn, and my mother was Swedish on her paternal side, and Ojibwe and French on her maternal side. That sort of diversity was a bit daring for my parent's and grandparent's generations; we have a lot of genealogical information on my Nordic/Scandinavian family, and boy, those ancestors NEVER married outside their ethnicity until my mother's parents. My parents were married in the late fifties, and even then Swedes "north of the river" did not marry Finns "south of the river." It was moderately interesting gossip in a very small town.

                                                                                                                              Anyhoo, I digress. To reference the topic that inspired this thread, I neither Yelp nor blog, but do make use of the resources as reference.

                                                                                                                              1. Mixed or if I had to check a box, it would be "other"..My mother's father was 100% Cherokee, my mother's mother was Cherokee & white (my grandmother didn't know her white father's family so I don't know specifics). My father's parents were Cherokee & African American; all were from NC. So, there you go....

                                                                                                                                1. Canadian 'Banana': yellow on the outside, whitish on the inside.

                                                                                                                                    1. An American by birth ~ A Southerner by the Grace of God.

                                                                                                                                      1. Italian-Irish, Swamp Yankee, Eastern European, League of Nations, all-American girl next door (sorta)!

                                                                                                                                        1. American: English/Scottish/French - possibly Irish & Welsh mixed in. ** Oh, forgot a bit of German mixed in. **

                                                                                                                                          Although we sometimes joke that I was Korean or Vietnamese in a past life.

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                                                                                                                                          1. Irish on my mom's side.... many others on my dad's.... Scots Irish and German are the most dominate from what we can tell. So basically really white.

                                                                                                                                            1. For me, Scots, Irish, English, German, Jewish, and for my wife, French, Cajun, Italian, Cherokee Catholic. No Asian, or Eastern European, at least for the past 500 years.

                                                                                                                                              For our English Bulldog - well we are not sure.


                                                                                                                                              1. Mom's side and what I identify as since I speak the language at home with my grandfather is Czech. I'd be a second gen American. The other bits are a mash of native American, Scottish, and probably some other stuff.
                                                                                                                                                The looks are a mash-up. I'm blonde and slight, but have darker tone to my skin and dark brown eyes.

                                                                                                                                                1. I am korean. Born and raised in korea now living in NJ and working in Manhattan who is married to a nice Jewish man who can't survive a day without eating some form of pork product. The last family meal being pork cooked in milk.

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                                                    Monica, I think you need to bring some more of the "Asian Persuasion" to have their numbers be counted. Thus far if this was an episode of Mythbuster's it would seem we are on track to "BUST" the conclusion of your original thread!!

                                                                                                                                                    If you don't mind me asking how old were you when you came over from Korea? The whole Korean Peninsula experience fascinates me.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                      I was about 14 yrs old when I first landed in JFK.

                                                                                                                                                      I think there are more Asians in Manhattan section(and other big metropolitan cities) of Chowhound but I guess they don't really check other topics too much. Most of them are a bit 'dry' and way too serious and don't really have senses of humor..i found.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                                                        I *thought* the Manhattan board was dominated by Asians, but it turns out that at least one of the most knowledgeable Malaysian posters is actually a native New York Jew! I went to lunch with one of our Thai food experts and was somewhat surprised to meet a white guy from Midtown.

                                                                                                                                                        FWIW I'm Asian.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: JungMann

                                                                                                                                                          I don't know any Jew who doesn't love Asian food....except my mother in law.

                                                                                                                                                          From what I remember from your postings, you seem to be very knowledgeable guy, at least when it comes to food.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                                                            While NY area Jews seem to mostly like Asian food, a fair number of New England Jews I know are not as enamored of it. Their tastes seem to run more like traditional New Englanders and view too much spice and flavor with some suspicion, though I imagine Bagelman will prove the exception.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Bkeats

                                                                                                                                                              Lots of LOUSY Asian food in New England, once you get east of New Haven

                                                                                                                                                            2. re: Monica

                                                                                                                                                              Well, yeah, Asian food is how we celebrated Christmas, that and a movie!

                                                                                                                                                              Parent's both of Eastern European Jewish descent. Russia/Poland/Austria...

                                                                                                                                                              Married 100% Irish, so no more Chinese Christmas dinners for moi.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: mcf

                                                                                                                                                                In Minnesota, even the Chinese restaurants are closed on Christmas.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                  They must be operated by Christian Chinese (as opposed to atheist Chinese or Buddhism Chinese).

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                    It is my understanding they are closed because they get few customers on Christmas Eve. Some of them open up late on Christmas Day however. There just is not a tradition of Chinese takeout on Christmas in Minnesota. I have a niece who lived for ten years in California and when she returned to Minnesota she was amazed that they couldn't get Chinese takeout after Christmas Eve church services. She didn't believe me when I said they were all closed.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                      You are running low on Jews. Where, I live, Chinese restaurants get slammed on Christmas with hour-long waits even with reservations.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Steve

                                                                                                                                                                        The Twin Cities metro area has a population of about 3.5 million. Around 1% identify themselves as Jewish.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                      Don't bet on it, Ck! Christmas, as in "Santa Clause is coming to town", is fast becoming universal! Ever seen the Christmas decorations on the streets of Tokyo's Ginza every December? Christmas is doing a tapdance along the road to becoming a "public" holiday, no religion required! Which may not be the case in Minnesota, but then not too long ago a friend from Minnesota told me her most difficult adjustment when she moved to Texas was adjusting to so many places being open 24/7...

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                                                                                        John E and Caroline,

                                                                                                                                                                        Sorry. My humor didn't come through. I was trying to be funny when I said "Oh they must be Christian Chinese then" Evidently, it wasn't very funny. Sorry for the confusion.

                                                                                                                                                                        *I was trying to be silly and outrageous to imply all Minnesota Chinese restaurants are operated by only Christians*

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                          Honey Bunches, NEVER apologies when we Ludites don't get your jokes! Just smile smugly and continue to party! It's the only way to preserve your sanity! '-)

                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                        Chinese restaurants do tend to be open almost always. Once I bought a turkey on Thanksgiving from the kind of place that usually has cooked ducks hanging in the window. Of course it had the same treatment used for the ducks, not for the traditional American turkey.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: GH1618

                                                                                                                                                                          Chinese restaurants do tend to open almost always because their gods didn't tell them to rest on the 7th day. Considering the low paying salary in Chinese restaurant industry, they really have nothing to be thankful for.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: LotusRapper

                                                                                                                                                                              Are you telling me that the Chinese gods told them to rest on the 7th day?

                                                                                                                                                                      3. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                        Hi, John

                                                                                                                                                                        The Chinese buffet on Lexington and Larpenteur is open on Christmas Eve. The would always be a sizeable cluster of cars in the parking lot when I would drive by on my way to my parents house. Have never eaten there so can't speak to the food but I can say it is the ONLY restaurant open in that area, so that might account for the number of cars.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Pwmfan

                                                                                                                                                                          I didn't really mean that every single Chinese restaurant in the Twin Cities is closed on Christmas Eve. Several years ago, I was looking for one for my niece and her family who had recently returned from California and could not find any open in my area. I still think it's a tradition that is not as common here as it is on the coasts.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                          Seroiusly?? Here in metro NY, Chinese and Japanese are our choices.

                                                                                                                                                                          Of course, now that I've been fully assimilated by goyim, it's a wasted option.

                                                                                                                                                            3. Hungarian/Scottish/German

                                                                                                                                                              No Yelping/no blogging

                                                                                                                                                              Just eating (with occasional Chowhound participation).

                                                                                                                                                              1. 100% white American Jewish female

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                                                                                                                                                                1. re: jpr54_1

                                                                                                                                                                  My maternal grandparents were born in Russian Poland
                                                                                                                                                                  Mt paternal grandparents were born in Galicia(Czech)
                                                                                                                                                                  I am Ashkenazi Jewish(Eastern European)
                                                                                                                                                                  but I was born in The Bronx, New York and AMERICAN

                                                                                                                                                                2. I'm 50-50 Danish & English, although I seem to have my best rapport with Jews and Mexicans.

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. I'm an American Mutt.

                                                                                                                                                                    Irish, Norwegian, Polish, German, English.

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                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                      So am I. Maternal grandmother was German, while my maternal grandfather was Irish. My father, now deceased, could never track his family back further than West Virginia, which kinda scares the crap out of me:)

                                                                                                                                                                      I don't remember either set of grandparents cooking anything other than southern-ish food, although Texas isn't considered by most to be part of the south.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: KrumTx

                                                                                                                                                                        Supposedly, my last name was derived from an all-consonant Polish last name (except the last letter, which was a vowel), and it got changed on Ellis Island. Haven't researched my father's family and know very little about it other than his mother being Norwegian. Mother's family was definitely Irish...she found a 2nd or 3rd cousin to her mother when she went over to Ireland in the early 1970s.

                                                                                                                                                                        I should probably spend some time doing a bit of research.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                          You can do some research for free on the Ellis Island website.


                                                                                                                                                                          I found the ship manifest with my grandfather's name on it.

                                                                                                                                                                          My grandmother came from the same village as my grandfather but she first emmigrated to Canada. She went back to her home village in 1970 to visit her siblings in Ukraine. Since Americans were not supposed to travel to the USSR back then, she used her 50 year old Canadian papers and got a Canadian passport. Once she got there, she ditched the tour group and went to western Ukraine where she was told not to go. She went anyway. She also smuggled back 8 quarts of homemade vodka her brother had made.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                            Very interesting! I found my English grandmother coming in 1894 as a youngster. She gave us the gift of lamb kidneys on toast for breakfast but died before I was born. Other grandparents were born in the US and are of various anglo euro whitebread stock.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. Joining the leagues of white American mutts reporting in. I know that there is some Irish on my mom's side, but the rest is ???

                                                                                                                                                                      1. I'm 3/8 German, 1/8 Swede, (mother) and 1/2 Ukrainian (father). I'm probably a little below average for a Chowhound.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. white female; half and half German/Irish...i'm sure on the irish side there's a bunch of british isles stuff in there as well...

                                                                                                                                                                          1. Czech 100%

                                                                                                                                                                            Husband: 3 parts Irish, 1 part polish

                                                                                                                                                                            1. On my Dad's side I am German and on my Mom's side, I am 7 gen. American (or more - I am still in the process of finding out if there are more generations back) - and I don't know the origin, but based on my extreme passion for the Italian/French food, wine, architecture and countryside, I am probably Italian and/or French.

                                                                                                                                                                              1. Female American White
                                                                                                                                                                                50% Italian
                                                                                                                                                                                50% mixture of English, French, Scottish, German (basically New England WASC- not a typo).

                                                                                                                                                                                1. I'm Jamaican and quite mixed racially/ethnically. Predominantly Sephardi Jew, African, English and Scottish with a little Panamanian thrown in for good measure.

                                                                                                                                                                                  At the end of the day just a typical mixed up Yardie!

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Ruskie. First generation, but I pretty much grew up in the States.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. American as Heinz... 57 varieties. White male, many, many, many generations US. Scandinavian, English, Italian, Native American, Jewish, etc. blood type B- so originally coming from Central Asia and the Mongols ancestry...

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. African-American with Native American and Welsh-English

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Jewish with both sets of grandparents being immigrants of Aleppo Syria and Kilis Turkey near the Syrian boarder and following the traditions of Aleppo/Halabian
                                                                                                                                                                                            Jews. Born raised and live in Florida. Both sets of grandparents lived in Georgia before Florida so black eyed peas and collards are a stable on New Year's Day

                                                                                                                                                                                            Syrian Jews with a southern flair

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Mixed northern European ethnicity (English/Irish/Scottish/French/German/Prussian), but married to an Asian.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Scots-Irish and Southern by the grace of Bob.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Cockasian, as in Your Rope Peein', but 11th generation American.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Euromutt. (Swabian, NW Irish, NE Polish/Masovian).

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: sherrib

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Since you specified Iranian Jewish, do you mind me asking were you born in Iran?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I was, but moved to the US as a toddler.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: sherrib

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Since you specified toddler, do you mind me asking were you a cute baby or not? (be honest)

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                LOL, Chemicalkinetics..maybe some people might find you silly but I find you funny..!

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. As mentioned previously, I'm Chinese Canadian. Wife is "Heinz 57" English/Scottish-Canadian. We have one child who is bi-racial. Around here, he's known as "Eurasian" and the term is common.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Ashkenazi - 1/4 Lithuanian, 3/4 Pruss-Russian
                                                                                                                                                                                                                My Mothers family has been in the deep South since the 1880's. My Father's family settled in Chicago and St. Louis during the same time period.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Irish, French, Miqmaq mix. 100% Canadian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. White female of French-German ancestry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Half Italian - Half Slovak. Scanned thru didn't see any other Slovaks here. Maybe on the PA threads?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My paternal grandfather was born in Marigliano Italy in 1899.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Jerseygirl111

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Another half-Slovak. My mother's parents were both born there and ended up in Chicago. German on my father's side.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Female, Irish and Scot-Irish on both sides (and no, they aren't the same. Catholic vs. Methodist.) Interesting thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Congratulation. Your follows-up thread has suppressed Monica's original post by 3 time the responders.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Where do I claim my prize? Better yet what is my prize? A puppy? Ohhhh please let it be a puppy!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              CK, let's do even better and get him a pony!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Unfortunately, I am not wealthy like Veggo. Please tell her your shipping address and she will send you the pony. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Richard, please....Veggo is not a she....but I can take care of the pony task!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ok, then. Man up, and buy him a pony. :) Sorry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      No problem. But we'll have to wait for the spring foals.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Maybe you can get him your cat (the one in your photo) for now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Give away little veggo? From his home in the Mexican jungle to New Jersey? I think Governor Christie has his hands full without the havoc little veggo could inflict.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                a lot of things to be said and discussed when race and religion are topics.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Monica

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I should have went for the triple crown and asked everyone's political affiliation as well!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    :) I like you, buddy. You are a fun person to talk to. Tell your wife for me. Tell her that she is very lucky to have you. :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Richard? Are you ready to fess up? I have known all along...:)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Fess up about what?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1) I am in love with jrvedivici? Sure, if I am a woman, then I would love to date jverdivici. :P


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2) I am actually jredivici, and I have two accounts, and I am self-promoting myself? I doubt that is possible. Jredivici needs no self-promotion. He is awesomeness in one package. :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        P.S.: Don't forget the pony.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If you are me, then who am I? Shit 43 years and it took a food web site for me to discover I have an identity problem?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            <f you are me, then who am I?>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Some people have split personalities. It is possible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I knew all along it was #1, even with your great knowledge of knives!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And thank you for the kind words, I do try to make things as entertaining as I can, while hopefully adding some value to these topics.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My wife....well after 19 years of martial bliss {{cough cough}} I'm pretty sure she would be willing to debate the extent of her luckiness.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "Martial" bliss? Freud would have a field day :-D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: linguafood

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lingua my dear, if you haven't figured it out yet, I think most shrinks would have a field day with me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Tell you a quick story, I live near the now closed Marlboro Psychiatric Facility which use to be a live in residence for the mentally ill here in NJ.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I got a flat tire about 10 years ago and pulled my car over on the grass along side the fence which was adjacent to their yard. As I took the flat tire off my car, I pulled out the spare and placed it on the empty wheel, when next I realized I lost the lug nuts for the wheel I removed. Looking all around the ground I couldn't find the lug nuts to tighten the spare to my wheel. Since the time I pulled over with the flat there were a group of residents watching me from inside the fence, at this point one of them walked over and said to me "Hey man, why don't you take one lug nut off the other three wheels and put it on the spare, that will certainly get you where you're going".........

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Pretty surprised at this very logical suggestion by him I responded "Wow....thanks a lot! You're right that would work, if you don't mind me asking, what are you doing in here?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            He looked me in the eye and said, "I'm in here cause I'm crazy dude, not stupid"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "I'm in here cause I'm crazy dude, not stupid"
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Puhahahaha....that's too funny. All of sudden, I don't think your wife is so lucky anymore.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                <He looked me in the eye and said, "I'm in here cause I'm crazy dude, not stupid">

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This is both funny and true. It is perfectly normal to have a mentally disturbed person and an intelligent person at the same time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                For example, many serial killers are mentally very troubled, but most of them are smart to very smart.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                John Nash is a Nobel prize winner mathematician turned economist (game theory). He is definitely a smart man, but he also has serious mental health problem. His life was made into the movie: Beautiful Mind.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ludwig Boltzmann. A great chemical statistical mechanics theorist suffered major depression and killed himself at the end. He was a very smart man -- most famous for the The Boltzmann equation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You are correct and this is precisely why I will never be suspect of any serial killings. :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  History is rich with many, many, many people who are literally genius, yet very troubled both mentally and emotionally. A hobby of mine is reading about people whom I look upon favorably and reading about them, their life and what exactly formed their outlooks, their views, their greatness. I LOVE learning about human development, how we learn and process information and how the way we each individually process the various stimuli around us, how that molds our beliefs and our outlooks and our attitudes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  While we tread further off topic I will leave this with, I prefer seedless rye bread, for whatever reason rye seeds make me gag.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You do realize that one of them probably took the lug nuts (which you had put near the fence) when you weren't looking. :-P

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Could very well be, I'll tell you another quick story of the same hospital.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    One day I was walking on the other side of the property where there was a wooden fence, probably 8 or 9 feet in height. As I was walking I could hear them chanting on the other side "five, five, five, five, five......" My curiosity was killing me as I saw a knot in the fence I decided to look in to see what the chanting was all about.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I press my face against the wooden fence peering thru the knot hole when suddenly I'm poked in the eye with a stick!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Immediately the chant changes to "Six, six, six, six......"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm glad the state closed that hospital.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      <I press my face against the wooden fence peering thru the knot hole when suddenly I'm poked in the eye with a stick! >

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I love to play punks and I love a good laugh, but this is very distributing to say this least. This can really hurt someone -- permanently. You can fix a broke arm, but a damaged eye often is permanent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Seriously, if someone asks me: "Do you want me swing a baseball bat at your arm or poke your eye with stick?" I will always pick the former.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Was he joking about getting poked in the eye? Sorry. :) I didn't recognize that was a joke.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven...........

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes it was a joke, as was my original story of the lug nuts. Remember it's too late to take back my pony!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              :) Veggo will give you a pony plus a cat. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hey, I didn't catch the lug nuts story neither. I thought it was a bit fishy, but didn't think it was made up. :P

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well, the "I am crazy, but not stupid" is definitely true though. There are plenty smart and crazy people, and plenty plain and kind people. :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                HEY! little veggo is not for sale, not for rent, nor re-gifting!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hey CK aren't you the charts and graphs guy? You want to do me and this thread a favor and put together a pie chart or graph showing the appropriate representation of respondents thus far?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And FYI guys, I'm allergic to cat's so lil Veggo is perfectly safe, I asked for a puppy and was offered a pony. I'm not a 10 year old girl, so I'm not sure what good a pony would do me, and in all honesty I shouldn't try to mount anything smaller than a Clydesdale these days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      <I asked for a puppy>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You did?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      <I'm not a 10 year old girl, so I'm not sure what good a pony would do me>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Don't underestimate a pony, you are probably thinking about the dwarf pony. There are plenty larger ponies, like the Australian Pony and Welsh Pony



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have always wanted a Mongolian Pony (which really is a small horse, not a real pony).


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      <Hey CK aren't you the charts and graphs guy? >

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I figure all the results will averaged out to "Mexican"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I wouldn't give little veggo up either. He's a cutie pie.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The way I heard it a gringo rents a room on the second floor of a run down backwater hotel in southern Mexico. He's warned, "Don't go near the door to the room just before yours. Just stay as far away as you can when you pass and things will be fine,". Every time he passes the door he hears a hoarse voice whispering, "Ocho... Ocho... Ocho...". Finally he can't resist. He puts his eye to the keyhole and is hit with blinding pain! The voice changes to sheer delight! "Nueve... Nueve... Nueve..."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As for IQ and mental illness, my first job as a psychiatric occupational therapist was in a traditional locked ward setting of a large Catholic hospital. When I was planning my first holiday festivities for the patients the nun in charge asked what I was planning. When I told her, her comment was, "Well, just be prepared for memory games and such to last much longer than they would in an average population group. People and cars have something in common: The more they have under the hood, the more things can go wrong.".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And so it is...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. English, German, Scottish, Dutch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            But we've been in the US for too long (10+ generations back to the 1600s) to have any kind of ethnicity. There's never been a "mother country." But regional US cooking is a different story as my mother's Virginia based family had a diet and culinary habits different from my father's Pennsylvania family.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. 3/4 Boliviana, 1/4 Paraguaya. although the last name is Basque, so something else is going on there too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. I am a beige mutt, with a nice mix of English (Jamestown and Mayflower ancestors), Cajun (French ancestors kicked out of Nova Scotia and settled in New Orleans) and Scottish. There may be some German in there somewhere, too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. so obviously, these are early reports, but there seem to be a dearth of latinos/hispanos.... me and itsmejessica are the only ones representing? joder.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have noticed that also, Maria. Disappointing but not surprising. More pressure on you - keep up the good work!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The wifeacita is Hispanic and I am an honorary Mexican. At our wedding one of her nephews in an over the top English spoken Mexican accent, "You're one of us now!" I've been the only Gringo at weddings, a quinceneria, Thanksgiving dinner, etc. Love it!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You are wrong. There may not be a lot of Latinos or Latinas, but I have did some calculations, the average race will be "Mexican" -- Read AVERAGE race

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i'm sorry Ck, not understanding this...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        and like i said, early reporting.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        plus, i was mostly joshing, trying to bring the rest of them out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's okay. I suspect you meant Median," right?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LOL, I was wondering what "average CH race/ethnicity" meant. I refrained from answering because I didn't know if the OP was asking only for the "average CH" to answer (since we're all above average, like Lake Wobegone children), or if there would be an average race/ethnicity calculated at the end. Thanks for doing the math.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Lots and lots of mutts like me, though. And i am part Portuguese. Although it is arguable whether that is Latino or European.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Portuguese is clearly European, as is half of Brazil and 90% of Uruguay....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Not full blooded anything, but I did represent my Gam's Cuban blood upthread :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3. American-born Indian (Asian)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Purebred. 100% Armenian (as far as we know). White female.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. a "Tiszta Magyar" here...through and through, as far back as anyone can trace.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Our ability to cook chicken or pork is hereditary. Sausage is one of the major food groups.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. I'm a white born-and-raised New York pizza bagel.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. White female, Finnish/Norwegian/Swedish/English/Scottish/Danish/Swiss/German....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah. Surname is Scot, primary make-up is English/Finnish, and I usually "identify" as Scandinavian. I'd traced out the actual percentages of everything at one point, but I've forgotten it now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. i am a married white female, with the following heritage: German, Irish, Swedish, Scottish, Welsh, English, French. They are listed in order of quantity, like prepared foods. Some of my ancestors arrived in the 1620's and the others filtered in over the next couple centuries. My husband is Italian and I have incorporated that into my own cultural heritage especially in kitchen and dining room. My maternal grandfather was a chef and he and Grandma also cooked in their restaurants. Mom was a wonderful cook and gave my a wonderful grounding in so many cooking basics as well an adventurous culinary appetite.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: cblee

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, 1620s. I am always so impressed when folk can trace their family back a long way. I can get back to the mid 19th century but that's it - annoying in a way as my surname is quite regional so we must have been living round here for probably hundrds of years

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Harters

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My maternal grandmother's genealogy traced back to a Mayflower passenger, that's about as far back as American lineage goes. The Mayflower Society here is actually quite large.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's interesting, Veggo. I thought all passengers were Brits. When did the paternal side emigrate?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                My grandfather after whom I was named was born in Denmark in 1903 and his family moved to America after WW1.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "My maternal grandmother's genealogy traced back to a Mayflower passenger"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And let me guess...you were at Woodstock?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Born and bred Oregonian web foot! Heritage German on mother's side, unknown on father's side.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't have a blog, but I do comment on Yelp occasionally.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. 100% East Asian. Mom is Chinese from China, emigrated to the US just prior to WW2 as a child and raised in the American Southwest. Dad is sort of 2nd generation Japanese - his mother was actually born in the US but sent back to Japan to be raised and educated (known as 'kibei') - he calls himself "nisei-han", or 'second and a half generation'.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Food-wise, I have close ties to both. Worked a lot (BOH and itamae) in a Japanese restaurant owned by a friend, and learned a lot of Chinese cooking from watching/helping Mom in the kitchen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I tend to think of myself as ethnically Californian more than anything else, tho. Go figure!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Aussie, 4 generations (That's a lot about these parts) English heritage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Chop Suey...All mixed up..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Paternal grandparents were from Italy: Napoli and Bari. Maternal grandparents: Irish/English/Scottish/Welsh.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Eastern European. Grandparents and great grandparents were Jewish immigrants from Russia and maybe Ukraine and Belarus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. 75% German female with little Dutch and English sprinkled in. However, I am supposed to be Italian. LOL
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Italian trapped in the body of a tall red head with blue eyes and freckles.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well, that is how I have felt for years. Absolutely love the country/food and kept dating Italian men. Gorgeous creatures!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Really I just love the traditions of other cultures since my family lacked any. One Italian guy I dated was from a very traditional family that cooked the sauce every Sunday and had a great meal with wine, and espresso at the end - and all spoke in Italian. Actually thought they were shouting at each other because my German family is so quiet at home. He said no we're just talking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Also, loved being around my friends in college and being exposed to their cultures & traditions since my high school was all Caucasian. In college I had friends from Jamaica, Philippines, Barbados, Japan, India, and El Salvador. People would sing "It's a Small World..." when we would hang out - not kidding.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I love cooking food from all over the world and rarely cook anything "American".