Toro or Coppa?
If we only have time for one of the above Ken Orringer places which would you recommend and why?
Both are excellent, so whichever menu looks better to you. For a one time visit it would be hard to rate one over the other. I personally prefer Coppa's food more for repeated visits. Toro has a full liquor license, which Coppa does not.
Depends 100% on timing for me. Toro is quite a bit more crowded and doesn't take reservations. If I were doing lunch or dinner on a Tuesday I'd probably end up at Toro. If it were a Friday or Saturday night, I'd go to Coppa.
-much bigger menu
-full bar w/ excellent red sangria
-tremendous paella valenciana which we cannot NOT order
-ditto their changing foie gras and the cold eggplant dish
-loudest room i've ever experienced
-no res. and always a line (restnt fills as soon as the doors open, even on weeknights.)
-nicest staff you can imagine. A 'Yes' place all around.
- some neat creativity on @ plate
-some sidewalk seating
-small menu but pretty consistent quality dish to dish
- a real neighborhood spot; you see the families and singles who make it a second home
Apples and oranges, as the menus are very different. I'd go with either, depending on if I wanted Spanish or Italian food and if I was up for a wait vs. making a reservation (or going early, which I find is a better bet at Coppa than Toro).
I love the food at both these places, but even though it is rather larger, Toro is still the tougher table, involving the potential for a long wait at pretty much any time you might want to go. (If you are by yourself, it's significantly easier; one seat at the bar is relatively easy to snag.)
If you're going with one or more people, make a reservation at Coppa and save yourself the dread hassle of being jammed into a packed bar while waiting for a table at Toro.