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Canada free trade deal with the EU - A chowhounder perspective?!

Charles Yu Oct 18, 2013 01:55 PM

Excited to see possible availability of more fine French Cheeses and Hams, Charolais beef and Bresse Chicken, Foie Gras from Strasbourg, Jamon Iberico Ballota......etc at 'cheaper(?) price??!!
What are your thoughts?! Any products you would like to see in Toronto currently not available??!!

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  1. jayt90 RE: Charles Yu Oct 18, 2013 05:34 PM

    Charolais is already a major breed in Ontario, and it was adopted because the big boned cow has lean meat, and lots of it. Pure greed on behalf of French farmers, and now Canadian. Most of it will go to A or AA, but a few, like Cumbrae can go higher but refuse to have it rated.

    I like what I have heard so far, especially the beginning of the end of the dairy cartel.

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    1. re: jayt90
      Kagemusha RE: jayt90 Oct 18, 2013 07:14 PM

      Be careful what you wish for.

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        Michael N RE: Kagemusha Oct 19, 2013 07:05 AM

        What makes you say that?

    2. CocoaChanel RE: Charles Yu Oct 18, 2013 06:28 PM

      Looking forward to Pretty Much anything I am not forced to buy from Saputo. Also, the beginning of the end of the dairy board as Jay says. This should go the whey ;) of the wheat board.

      1. porker RE: Charles Yu Oct 18, 2013 07:21 PM

        I remember thinking along the same lines and getting excited about NAFTA.
        THAT sure fizzled at the grass roots level...

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          bytepusher RE: Charles Yu Oct 18, 2013 07:30 PM

          A) this is pretty unlikely to ever happen, the Europeans are going to insist on a linked political treaty that will contain some things that there's no way the Harperites will give on (killing the seal hunt, human rights provisions that will immediately have Canada in breach of the treaty vis the treatment of the First Nations etc.). There are also some pretty big hurdles on the European end including three countries already on the record opposing it without much broader Canadian concessions.

          B) even if A) weren't true it won't make any product not currently available suddenly available, you won't for example see a relaxation of the 60 day rule on raw milk cheeses. Quotas will go up so we'll just get more of the same stuff we already get.

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            catherine88 RE: Charles Yu Oct 19, 2013 10:40 AM

            I'm super excited. more cheese = more love.

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              Charles Yu RE: catherine88 Oct 19, 2013 01:04 PM

              Personally, I am really looking forward to more selection in 'bone-in' Hams from the UK and elsewhere.
              Love the Smoked Wilshire, Shropshire Black and most of all the Cooked York Ham. The latter so good with English Hot Mustard!!
              When I was working in London years ago, there was not a week when some of my lunches were not consisted of Jellied Ox-Tongue with Sandwich Spread and York Ham with Hot Mustard sandwiches!!
              BTW, French bone-in Bayonne and Peat smoked Irish Ham would be nice as well.

              1. re: Charles Yu
                Kagemusha RE: Charles Yu Oct 19, 2013 01:26 PM

                Christmas lists aside, the deal is two years away and subject to God-knows-what amendments and adjustments from an unimaginable range of interest groups on either side of the pond.

            2. KhaoSanRoad RE: Charles Yu Oct 19, 2013 12:47 PM

              the owner of montforte was on cbc radio talking about this thursday night. its worth a listen if its available on podcast.

              - khao san road

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                hal2010 RE: KhaoSanRoad Oct 19, 2013 07:47 PM

                It was a good perspective on the industry. I guess the cheese producers pay the same price as we do for milk and cream and so they can't compete with subsidized EU cheeses. Their wholesale costs are in excess of what a highly tariffed European cheese sells for in Canada. But they didn't seem too bothered. They currently can't keep up with demand, selling at farmers markets and locally.

                It would be nice to know what the true cost of a pound of good cheese is. I just can't imagine that a buck a bite or more is the real price for cheese.

              2. meatnveg RE: Charles Yu Oct 19, 2013 09:19 PM

                im worried about it.

                Harper's embargo on details has put the Cheese issue to the forefront. The whole focus is on something that will constitute less than 10% of the deal.

                I think we will see big changes in beef prices (depending on demand from EU) and probably some more cheese. Likely won't see more variety, since the biggest cheese retailers will use the extra quota to bring in more of their big sellers, i.e. parmesan, edam, gouda and brie

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