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Taylordayne Oct 17, 2013 06:16 PM

Hope this is not a duplicate post. Five of us Ladies are coming to Manhattan to celebrate turning 60 and 70. I would like suggestions on areas we will be in each night. Not looking for a hundred dollar meal, just good local cuisine. Friday night Rockefeller Center..Saturday night Radio City Music Hall, Sunday Broadway Play, and Monday night Times Square, lunch near Central Park on Saturday and lunch near Radio City Friday. We love Italian, steaks, Breakfast at Clinton Bakery sounds like a must do. Thanks so much love chowhound

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    kathryn Oct 17, 2013 06:35 PM

    When in November are you coming?

    What's your budget BEFORE tax, tip, wine/drinks? $25pp? $50pp? $75pp?

    Your group of five is fairly large for Manhattan and I definitely recommend getting reservations beforehand, especially if you're dining before a show. I assume you know that Manhattan restaurants tend to be small and/or cramped and/or crowded a lot of the time.

    Rockefeller Center and Radio City are right next to each other. Also Times Square and the theatre district are very close.

    However, Central Park is huge & you'll end to specify what part you're going to be near -- UWS, UES, the north part of Midtown, etc.

    Are you willing to consider cuisines other than steaks and Italian? Chinese, Japanese, etc?

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      Taylordayne Oct 17, 2013 08:00 PM

      We are coming November 8th only there 4 days. We are staying in midtown east close to Grand Central Station. $100 a day for eating, probably do breakfast at hotel, except one day trying to go to Clinton Bakery. Don't see anything on chowhound about the Central Park boathouse for lunch, good food or just a tourist trap? We live on the coast of North Carolina, love good seafood if you have any recommendations would appreciate them.

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        kathryn Oct 17, 2013 08:11 PM

        $100 total per day doesn't go that far after you account for tax (8.875%) and tip (20%). That is only $77 or so for three meals. And a hotel breakfast will put a pretty big dent in that, too. Seafood here also tends to be expensive.

        Some previous Midtown East discussions:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/883192
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/884770
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/908071

        Best bagel nearby:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/875736

        I would recommend trying to do coffee/pastries, bagels and smoked salmon, or a diner for breakfast rather than spending money every morning at the hotel. Maybe the Eggstravaganza food cart?

        Best seafood near Grand Central:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/908554

        1. re: kathryn
          financialdistrictresident Oct 18, 2013 05:10 AM

          And $77/day really doesn't go far if you have a cocktail or wine . . .

          Maybe a splurge, upscale lunch or dinner and less expensive pre-fixe dinners at places like Marseille :)

          Financier is in Grand Central and you can have pastries for less than a hotel breakfast. You can eat downstairs right in GCT or walk over (if you're walkers) to nearby Bryant Park/NYC Public Library if the weather isn't too cold or snowy.

          http://www.financierpastries.com/locations.cfm

          IMHO, Clinton Street is overrated.

          http://clintonstreetbaking.com/

          You will have more options if you are willing to venture to less touristy areas to eat.

          I'd suggest you venture downtown and have a Coming Up Roses cocktail at Rayuela to celebrate!

          http://www.rayuelanyc.com/

          PS kathryn, awesome posts!

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            kathryn Oct 18, 2013 05:53 AM

            I would hope it's not snowing by Nov 8th!

            I like Clinton St a lot but a party of 5 is going to have a looooooong wait on a weekend. There's nowhere really to wait inside either.

            1. re: kathryn
              financialdistrictresident Oct 18, 2013 05:58 AM

              kathryn, that makes two of us :)

              I've been to Clinton twice. Once with friends from the South. Also, to Second Avenue Deli w/them. A better choice since they don't have NYC deli (why your "where are you coming from?" question is such a good one).

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          arepo Oct 18, 2013 05:50 AM

          That's a pretty tight allotment for meals in NY - especially if you want to consider good seafood.
          Look into Le Pain Quotidien for things like lunches or light dinners. (several locales)
          You might also squeak out Fig & Olive (in several locales) if you don't need to drink alcohol.

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            plf515 Oct 19, 2013 03:05 PM

            Hotel breakfasts are not the way to go, especially on your budget (unless, for you, breakfast = coffee). Hotel breakfasts are usually mostly for convenience.

            1. re: Taylordayne
              financialdistrictresident Oct 20, 2013 06:29 AM

              Oceana (Michelin 2014 One Star) has a $49 prix fixe dinner (per another thread on CH).

              Menu:

              http://www.opentable.com/rest_profile_menu.aspx?rid=178&tab=1

              To reserve:

              http://www.opentable.com/oceana

              1. re: financialdistrictresident
                financialdistrictresident Oct 20, 2013 06:56 AM

                Lunch at Marea (Michelin 2014 Two Stars/only 5 NYC restaurants received this distinction) $45:

                http://www.marea-nyc.com/file/6422/Ma...

                I have not been yet. Defer to other hounds.

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            kathryn Oct 17, 2013 06:36 PM

            Here's what I have posted before for other tourists. It may help you.

            Where are you coming from?

            When are you coming? How long are you here? How many meals do you have available?

            We don't want to recommend food that you might do better at home, but we also may have some cuisines you can't find at home...

            I'd say we are pretty strong in a lot of different cuisines but not equally. Budget will makes big difference in where you can go.

            Are you willing to wait for a table at a no reservations restaurant? If so, for how long?

            How hard are you willing to work for a reservation at a restaurant that's hard to book?

            What is your budget, per person, per meal, BEFORE tax, tip, wine/drinks/etc for your meals? It is much easier for us to help you if you give a pre-tax-and-tip figure.

            Feel free to break out your budget in terms of upscale/fancy meals (and number of them) and cheaper/everyday meals.

            What else are you doing while you are here? Planning around sightseeing, shopping, Broadway shows, etc? Also if you are sightseeing, to make the best use of your time, you should try to find things to eat to/from the tourist destinations or near the tourist destinations. Our tourist destinations are spread out all around town.

            Note that popular places tend to book about a MONTH in advance. Most upscale restaurants serve weekday lunch (but not weekend lunch), and serve dinner Monday through Saturday, and are usually closed Sundays, though there are a few exceptions to the "closed Sundays" rule (ex: Per Se, Eleven Madison Park, Jean Georges).

            Check out some "Only in NY" type foods while you're here: bagels and smoked salmon, pastrami on rye, pizza, hot dogs & papaya juice, black and white cookies, cheesecake, egg creams, pickles, halal carts.

            Russ & Daughters (takeout, busy on weekends), Katz's Deli (from When Harry Met Sally), Papaya King etc. (not gourmet but iconic), William Greenberg's black and whites, Junior's cheesecake, egg creams from Gem Spa or Ray's, Pickle Guys, the Halal Guys (53rd and 6th after sunset), are all iconic "NY" sorts of places that are worth a look.

            If you're interested in some of the places I listed above, you could do a LES food crawl.

            I highly recommend RGR's self guided Lower East Side Gustatory tour but sub in Pickle Guys for Guss' Pickles and note that Economy Candy's address is incorrect:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493333

            Best NY style pizza:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/890813

            We also have some of the harder to find Chinese cuisines: Henan, Shaanxi (Xian Famous Foods) and Fuzhou in Manhattan, and many more in Queens and Brooklyn (Shangdong/Qingdao and Dongbei to name a few). scoopG's Chinatown list (dependent upon where you are coming from these may be exotic or not... most places don't have Henan or Xian style food though):
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/834312#7156862

            You might also want to do a restaurant doing creative takes on Asian, like at Momofuku Ssam Bar, Wong, Fatty Cue, Takashi, RedFarm, Mission Chinese, Jungsik, Kin Shop, or Danji.

            My favorite unique places in NY serve Xian (Chinese) food, Issan (Thai) food, organic/local/sustainable Japanese BBQ, authentic Basque (Spanish) tapas, creative diner food, pretzels, hot dogs, halal food, steak, upscale rustic Italian, Italian subs, creative Italian-American, high end non-sushi Japanese (like kaiseki), creative desserts, molecular gastronomy, mixology/creative cocktails, and creative brunches (sometimes every day of the week).

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838348#7206684

            Some common tourist inquiries:

            Where to Eat Near Times Square:
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2013/07/where-to-eat-near-times-square-new-york-nyc.html
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/833282

            Where to Eat Near MoMA (the museum cafe is actually pretty good, as is the Modern next door):
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/771459
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/767638

            Where to Eat Near Museum Mile (Metropolitan Museum of Art, Whitney, Guggenheim, etc) on the UES:

            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2013/08/where-to-eat-near-the-metropolitan-museum-of-art-the-met-nyc.html
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/906331

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793684
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/795435
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793684

            Where to Eat Near the Museum of Natural History on the UES:
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/05/where-to-eat-near-the-natural-history-museum-upper-west-side-new-york.html
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793258
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/748686

            Where to Eat Near Macy's/Herald Square/Penn Station/Empire State Building:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/725320
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/757797#6192796
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2013/07/where-to-eat-around-penn-station-updated.html

            Where to Eat Near Grand Central/Midtown East:
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2013/07/where-to-eat-near-grand-central-station-nyc.html?ref=title

            Where to Eat in Soho:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/701593
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/757797#6192796

            Where to Eat near 5th Avenue shopping / Bloomingdale's / Rockefeller Center:
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2010/11/where-to-eat-near-fifth-avenue-and-rockefeller-center-christmas-tree-ice-skating-nyc-manhattan.html
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/906441#8150635

            Pre-theatre Dining (many of the same Times Square recs also apply):
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/06/where-to-eat-near-times-square-nyc-theater-district-midtown-new-york-manhattan.html
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/05/where-to-eat-a-pre-or-post-theater-dinner-nyc-theater-district.html
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/671275
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/755684
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/715535
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/788254

            Where to Eat Near the 9/11 Memorial:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/846126#7301463

            Notable food trucks/carts:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/701278

            Prix fixe lunch deals:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/874731#7664889

            Best breakfast/brunch in NYC:
            It is (IMO) at the Breslin, Locanda Verde, Shopsin's, Clinton St Baking Co., or Minetta Tavern.
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/809368#684625

            Best bagels in NYC:
            http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2009/10/serious-eats-finds-new-yorks-best-bagel-1.html
            Summary: the freshest bagels are the best; bagels don't age well at all. Focus on the smoked salmon instead. Preferably at Russ & Daughters! Featured in shows such as No Reservations and Louie!

            I'm fond of red onion, capers, regular cream cheese, and tomato on mine. Try a few smoked salmons before you settle on one, they're surprisingly different (and lox is not the same as smoked salmon, because lox is salmon cured in salt brine, and most people actually prefer the more modern, Nova-style smoked salmon). You can get a mini-sized bagel sandwich at Russ & Daughters, too, if you wish. Takeout only.

            If you like the idea of RGR's self-guided LES tour above, check these out, too.

            Maybe scoopG's self guided Chinatown tour:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/711661#5661425

            A West Village food crawl
            https://foursquare.com/kathrynyu/list/greenwich-and-west-villageish-walking-tour

            East Village:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/882582

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            1. re: kathryn
              porker Oct 18, 2013 05:58 AM

              I think the mods should consider this post for a sticky!

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                linguafood Oct 18, 2013 02:28 PM

                Agree. Perfect for the Manhattan board.

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              darren425 Oct 18, 2013 01:38 PM

              Broadway/Times Square:
              Marseille
              Toloache
              Don Antonio
              Dafni

              Rockefeller Center/Radio City Music Hall:
              La Bonne Soupe
              Wolfgang's (steak) - check the lunch specials
              Benoit
              Ma Peche (bar menu)

              Lunch near Central Park:
              Untitled at the Whitney Museum
              Cafe Sabarsky at the Neue Galerie
              Kefi

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                financialdistrictresident Oct 18, 2013 02:23 PM

                We just went to La Bonne Soupe for lunch recently (thanks to CH). Very good. 3 course Prix Fixe. Not a "destination" place.

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                  LNG212 Oct 18, 2013 03:52 PM

                  Kefi has been closed for some time.

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                    darren425 Oct 18, 2013 04:16 PM

                    Indeed you are right!

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                      LNG212 Oct 19, 2013 02:24 PM

                      Wish they would reopen. It was a terrific neighborhood place.

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                      plf515 Oct 19, 2013 03:07 PM

                      Sign still says it's due to water main/Con Ed, but that can't still be the issue.

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                        squid kun Oct 19, 2013 04:58 PM

                        http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131...

                        Sounds like the broken water main was indeed largely the issue, though they're also using the downtime for some sprucing up.

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                      Taylordayne Oct 18, 2013 06:17 PM

                      Thanks we need all the help we can get!

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                      Taylordayne Oct 18, 2013 06:13 PM

                      Thanks for the great post. Kathryn you re such a wonderful foodie. Looking forward to the cocktails.

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