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jmp80 Oct 15, 2013 11:59 AM

Hi all,
I'd like your advice on whether I should favour juni or betony for a romantic dinner for two twenty-somethings. Has anyone been to both?
Interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks

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  1. Spiritchaser RE: jmp80 Oct 15, 2013 12:12 PM

    I have not been to Juni yet but I have seen the interior and it doesn't say romantic to me (but Hergatt food is fantastic). On the other hand, Betony is a really beautiful space and it has been one of the best meals of this year for me.

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      jmp80 RE: Spiritchaser Oct 15, 2013 01:24 PM

      thanks SC. my only concern about betony is the polarity of opinion expressed towards it online/ good to hear you enjoyed. any tips?

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        Spiritchaser RE: jmp80 Oct 15, 2013 01:41 PM

        I think alot of the "polarity" has dissipated after the start up days and the glowing reviews from the "experts", If you reserve ask to be seated downstairs but not the bar area. Also, get there early and give yourself enough time to have a drink at the bar. Make sure you order their lobster dish and the short ribs.

    2. ellenost RE: jmp80 Oct 15, 2013 01:44 PM

      I've dined at both, and loved the food at both. I consider the food at Juni to be more creative than Betony (loved my corn and egg app; black bass main, and grapes and walnuts with honey mustard dessert at Juni; loved the foie gras bon bons, chicken liver mousse and lobster main at Betony).

      If you choose Betony, ask to be seated not in the bar area--a bit too loud and casual. Juni's decor seems more casual (no table cloths; Betony has dark table cloths); service is excellent at both. OK, Chef Shaun came out to chat with me at Juni--nice touch since I was dining solo. Plenty of twenty-somethings at both restaurants.

      Bottom line: you'll have a great time at either restaurant.

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        ipsedixit RE: ellenost Oct 15, 2013 07:00 PM

        Listen to her.

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          jmp80 RE: ipsedixit Oct 16, 2013 05:07 AM

          thanks both, will probably favour Betony given the above advice

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            dyrewolf RE: jmp80 Oct 16, 2013 06:31 AM

            Just had a romantic B-day dinner at Betony (we are 50 somethings but look way better and are way cooler than our ages suggest)... anyway, it was excellent. Sat in the back, beautiful space, excellent service...

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              jmp80 RE: dyrewolf Oct 16, 2013 06:41 AM

              thanks DW. I've read the other reviews, but do you have any recommendations?

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                dyrewolf RE: jmp80 Oct 16, 2013 07:27 AM

                I had started with cavatelli, then short ribs. She had salad then lobster... so I am repeating the common wisdom (though I went in having read the reviews so it is self perpetuation... everyone gets those two... there was another fish that sounded quite good too)

                Trust the sommelier but be aware many wines by the glass are over $20. The list itself has some well priced wines... but the meal we ordered did not match a single bottle..

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                  ellenost RE: dyrewolf Oct 16, 2013 09:00 AM

                  How was the cavatelli? Thinking about ordering it when I return to Betony in two weeks (or I'll stay with the chicken liver mousse that was excellent). Did you order dessert?

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                    JeffOverley RE: ellenost Oct 16, 2013 06:09 PM

                    I've had the cavatelli - like the NYT said of the whole menu, it's got those "clear and pure" flavors that are simple yet exquisite. It's served with a tableside pour of mushroom broth that really is a knockout.

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                      Ziggy41 RE: JeffOverley Oct 16, 2013 06:18 PM

                      The Cavatelli replaces the gnocchi with corn looks like. Sounds delish. The short ribs are a dish of the year nominee for me. Anyone had the chicken?

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                        JeffOverley RE: Ziggy41 Oct 16, 2013 06:31 PM

                        I've also had the chicken. It is superb, really like a completely different protein and amazingly rich for poultry. There maybe could have been a few more veggies alongside, but not a big deal. Here's a pic from the Times:

                        http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2013...

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                      dyrewolf RE: ellenost Oct 18, 2013 07:43 AM

                      Cavatelli was great, perfect snack at the bar with a glass of white if you're passing by (I enjoy hitting top spots caually that way)

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          jmp80 RE: jmp80 Oct 18, 2013 06:31 AM

          thanks for everyone's suggestions. had a very pleasant evening. would highly recommend the fois gras bon bons, chicken liver and fois gras (both hot and cold) snack/apps. not that crazy about the entrees, chicken v. disappointing, not a patch on nomad. short rib fine.

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            fooder RE: jmp80 Oct 18, 2013 08:28 AM

            Going to both next week! Very excited!

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              fooder RE: fooder Oct 23, 2013 07:42 PM

              Full reviews will be coming in the next couple of weeks, but went to both back to back. Enjoyed both but thought they were very different in terms of the ambition of the restaurant.

              Betony had a good buzzy scene to grab a drink with food that was more whimsical and casual while Juni was more serene and the food more ambitious and thought provoking.

              I would tend to think of it like Betony = Nomad and Juni = EMP in terms of who they're competing against.

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