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tboner6 Oct 12, 2013 02:38 PM

Headed to SF for 2 nights starting Friday next week, then up to Napa for 4 days. Have a business meeting Friday PM, but otherwise open. We have Atelier Crenn set for Sat night. Staying at Calistoga Ranch for 4 nights then flying out of SF. Have TFL, Bouchon, Goose and Gander, set for dinners. Have wine tastings set at Darioush, Montelena, Schramsberg, Barnett, Pride, Vineyard 29. Our concierge has set up a few lunches for us, but honestly not sure we can eat that much more! Any suggestions for last minute things we should see or do?! Thanks.

  1. CarrieWas218 Oct 12, 2013 02:59 PM

    Oxbow Market in Napa.

    Honestly, Bouchon doesn't blow me away any more. I would see if you could get into Redd. Considering you are staying in Calistoga, I can't recommend JoLe highly enough. In downtown Napa, Zuzu is great for tapas.

    If you have Saturday morning free and are in the city, you can't do any worse than the Farmer's Market at the Ferry Plaza.

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    1. re: CarrieWas218
      maria lorraine Oct 13, 2013 01:08 AM

      Only do Bouchon if you can sit at the bar, IMO. Love it if you're there, but the acoustics and service are dismal in the dining room. Love the mussels, the raw bar towers, the pate in a jar, the liquor selection, wonderful French wines.

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        justlaz Oct 13, 2013 11:04 PM

        I would pass on Bouchon too, and any TK restaurant less than 3 stars... Bouchon is a bit of an expensive tourist trap. Bistro Jeanty has better and less expensive French Bistro fare.

        Redd is pretty good, but have read it has gone a little down hill lately, always have loved it.

        Oenotri is a great Italian spot too.

        If you have time, there's a cooking school for 'civilians' at Ramekins where you can see cooking demos or hands-on cooking classes. That's in Sonoma and classes range upwards of about $90 per person

        1. re: justlaz
          CarrieWas218 Oct 14, 2013 12:57 PM

          Oenotri had a huge chef/management change about six weeks ago... We are still waiting to hear how it has fared since the turmoil.

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            Ridge Oct 15, 2013 11:57 AM

            Didn't know about the change at Oenotri. What happened? We went on Friday night and thought it was excellent, pizza and pasta were delicious as allways.

            1. re: Ridge
              CarrieWas218 Oct 15, 2013 02:28 PM

              This is what was reported in August:
              http://napavalleyregister.com/lifesty...

      2. Robert Lauriston Oct 12, 2013 03:11 PM

        You have a dinner meeting Friday or are you eating dinner after?

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          tboner6 Oct 13, 2013 05:40 AM

          Friday is a dinner meeting for a medical seminar. Sure the food will be dismal!

        2. maria lorraine Oct 15, 2013 03:13 PM

          If you wanted to play the game "Which of these things doesn't belong?" in your otherwise crafted winery list, that would be Darioush.

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            justlaz Oct 15, 2013 03:19 PM

            Agreed, Paradigm or Failla our my personal favorites in the area. O'Shaugnessy is also really good too

            1. re: maria lorraine
              CarrieWas218 Oct 15, 2013 08:13 PM

              Totally agree about Darioush. It is an interesting building to go and look at, but the wine is over-extracted and terribly hot with alcohol - lacking balance and subtlety of any kind.

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