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OK NYC hounds, thanks for all the tips on the pastrami -- heading out this weekend from LA for a wedding and will do Katz's the way you suggest and I think I'm also going to have a hard time getting away from that monster sammie at Carnegie -- we'll see....one more thing...LA here believe it or not is a pretty decent hotdog town, but you guys are the kings for that..right?..Staying in Times Square area and just don't have the time to go to Nathans/Coney Island this time....any special tips for good dogs midtown or just hit up one of the sabrett carts? call me old fashioned -- really old i guess based on how long those orange pickled onion things have been accompanying most of the dogs I've seen there -- but I prefer a spot with raw onions, kraut, etc. Thanks and we are looking forward to the big apple!

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  1. I don't know if you have tried them since you are on the West coast and maybe you've gotten to Vancouver but there is a Japadog in NYC, obviously not indicative of a NY hotdog but if you are a hotdog aficionado you may want to check them out, I like them quite a lot.

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    1. re: Spiritchaser

      Thanks spiritchaser -- sounds great...i wish i had more meals in NY this trip. I'm most interested in a straight up kosher hotdog with the fixins...

      1. re: jessejames

        Go to Katz's Deli. for a great hot dog cooked on a griddle with mustard and saurkraut.

        Great n.y style hot dog 100% beef with natural sheep casing with a great snap.

        1. re: ramen girl

          Nice. Pastrami sangie side of dog. The new pickle. Great call. Thanks all for other tips too. I love a dog with a pickle inside Chicago style and deep fried (ie ruts hut). Is there still a Nathan's in Times Square?

          1. re: ramen girl

            This was great. I liked it better than pastrami which was also dynamite. Thanks!

      2. Grey's Papaya and Papaya king are very popular for locals who want a hotdog that is not from a street vendor.
        This thread mentions other options as well, the hotdog at Katz has a following as well fyi.
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/905313

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        1. I honestly wouldn't come to NY and 'waste' a meal on hotdogs but everyone is different I guess.

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          1. re: Monica

            i find a hotdog to be a terrific between meal snack, very convenient and tasty, and affordable ... are you a new yorker?

            1. re: jessejames

              I am. (Well, for a little over 20 years now) And I have to say...I don't think of NY as a hot dog town. I think there is a lot of nostalgia involved.

              Besides Gray's and Papaya - two places that maybe you pop into if nearby but not destination places - no one really talks about hot dogs IME.

              Hot dogs from the carts? Sabrett's or not. They're for tourists and commuters or maybe if you are crazy starving and need to put something in your belly STAT. They are referred to as Dirty Water Dogs.

              PS Nathan's is a chain all serving the same dogs from what I read on this exact board though I do not know for sure.

              1. re: thegforceny

                Nathan's in Coney Island is incomparable. You get the atmosphere and surroundings, plus a lot more volume, so the dogs are just better (if they are the same dogs).

                1. re: villainx

                  It's not just psychological - they're not the same hot dogs. Most, if not all, the Nathan's in the city serve skinless dogs. Nathan's Coney Island serves natural casing dogs. The difference in taste is significant.

                  1. re: villainx

                    Calculate in Opportunity Cost for someone spending only one weekend in NYC.

                    1. re: thegforceny

                      I try to focus more on facts than opinion - a challenging endeavor on a topic as subjective as food.

                      Personally? I love Nathan's Coney Island - but I don't think it's worth the trip to Coney Island for a hot dog if you're only here for two days. Not to mention, I find the dogs very similar to what you get at Gray's and Papaya King.

                      1. re: lexismore

                        "Not to mention, I find the dogs very similar to what you get at Gray's and Papaya King."

                        They're not at all alike. I wouldn't suggest anyone pressed for time, go all the way to Coney Island for a hot dog, but the Nathan's out there is distinct, and tasty.

                        1. re: sugartoof

                          We'll have to agree to disagree on what constitutes similar.

                          I'm not saying they're identical. But they're both beef natural casing hot dogs. If I'm craving Nathan's but don't feel like making the trip out to Brooklyn, Gray's or Papaya King would be where I go instead.

                          1. re: lexismore

                            They're not really the same style and fit different cravings for me, but anyway, I do agree Gray's or Papaya is preferable to going to a random Nathan's location, unless it's the Coney one.

                      2. re: thegforceny

                        Haha, if it was on my way to JFK via Belt, I would consider it. But then, I would stop by Bark instead, all else being equal.

                        As is, I almost always stop by Boulevard Drinks if I have any reason to go to Newark or Elizabeth Ikea.

              2. The Shack-cago Dog at Shake Shack is probably my favorite menu item there. it's salty and spicy and refreshing. also worth mentioning that DBGB has a ten dollar bar room special - any dog and any draft, any time. ranks as one of the best deals in manhattan, even if it's more bread than beef (or pork or lamb).

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                1. re: coasts

                  Interesting recommendation, a Chicago style dog in NYC for an LA visitor. According to my Chicago friends the Shack-cago dog is done "incorrectly" and not a true Chicago dog, though it might be tasty.

                  1. re: kathryn

                    I had a very similar dog in Chicago at what was supposedly a very popular place. The shack-cago had the same ingredients but fresher quality.

                    I never really thought of New York as a hot dog city, despite its reputation for being so. Some of our most famed dogs are downright awful.

                    1. re: kathryn

                      The Shackago dog misses on a few details, but is otherwise pretty well-done. The tomatoes should be sliced into wedges so that their juiciness contrasts with the snap of the Vienna Beef hot dog, the bun should be poppyseeded and of course the relish is not nearly green enough, but everything else is otherwise fine. I just had one a couple weeks ago to celebrate the opening of Bears season. The bun was oversteamed, but it was otherwise a great taste of home.

                      1. re: JungMann

                        will have to try that next time...there's shake shack at jfk now too fyi

                  2. Get a NJ style deep fried (they do it sans batter) hot dog from Crif Dogs?