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josephnl Sep 28, 2013 10:34 PM

We're martini drinkers, and when we have friends over for drinks they generally look forward to our classic gin (Bombay sapphire) martinis which we serve in gorgeous Baccarat martini glasses. We've recently befriended a couple who are "non-drinkers" and when we have them over for "drinks" before going out for dinner we are stumped. We, of course, have our classic martinis for ourselves, but feel uncomfortable offering them just a glass of juice, soda water or tonic. Is there something more festive (but relatively easy to prepare) that would be more appropriate to serve them??

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  1. nokitchen Sep 28, 2013 11:08 PM

    Our generous hosts here at Chowhound have a slideshow on this precise subject. http://www.chow.com/galleries/149/non...

    1. EvergreenDan Sep 29, 2013 04:09 AM

      Those ideas from the slide show all look like kid's drinks to me. For an adult non-alcoholic (well, essentially), add bitters to plain seltzer and balance with citrus. I generally use Angostura and lemon. Use a fair bit of bitters (maybe 4-5 dashes to a highball glass). Lots of ice. A spring of mint would be welcome.

      I've also used Peychaud's, which is pretty, but you have to like anise. I also like Bittermens Hopped Grapefruit.

      Where did I get such a crazy idea? Julia Child. You can see the disdain in her face when she discusses guests who don't drink. She was a wonderful TV personality.

      Another good idea is seltzer and a high-quality fruit shrubb (fruit juice preserved with vinegar).

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      1. re: EvergreenDan
        JMF Sep 29, 2013 08:29 AM

        Dan, while most of those recipes in that slide show are basically kids drinks, there are a few that seem adult oriented. The little pink pearl, strawberry basil lemonade, pomegranate lime rickey, tropical fruit cooler, Cantaloupe Agua Fresca, lemon verbena drink, and the kiwi soda.

        It depends upon why the guests don't drink. If they are in recovery the amount of alcohol in bitters , while extremely small, is still alcohol. if they just don't like alcohol the bitters may work.

        Stirrings Blood Orange bitters are alcohol free. While not my favorite bitters to use for myself, they are pretty gppdd, but you need to use about 10X as much. they are more like a blood orange and spice syrup.

        You suggestion of shrubb is great. they are easy to make and taste great.
        http://www.thekitchn.com/the-tale-of-the-shrub-193250

        http://www.chow.com/recipes/30435-pea...

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        kitchengardengal Sep 29, 2013 09:10 AM

        I, unfortunately, happen to be one of the disdained non- drinkers. Not because I don't like to drink, or because I overindulged and am now in recovery. I simply have a health issue that doesn't allow for alcohol in the menu.

        That said, anything fruity and/or colorful is fine with me. Bitters doesn't sound like a pleasant drink, and I certainly don't need to drink things that taste nasty so I can pretend they are alcohol.
        Just make your friends a nice beverage that you'd drink yourself at lunch, perhaps, or for a summer picnic. Being a seltzer water fan, I like it with lemon or lime, or a shot or two of cranberry juice or grapefruit juice.
        Your guests are there to see you, and are not feeling deprived while you have your martini.
        Keep it simple, use a pretty glass, a twist, and plenty of ice. Easy peasy.

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        1. re: kitchengardengal
          JMF Sep 29, 2013 10:08 AM

          kgg- I guess you've never had bitters and seltzer? Otherwise you wouldn't call a very tasty and refreshing drink nasty. Are you aware what bitters are? There are around 100+ "bitters" on the market today, up from 4-5 ten years ago. They come in some amazing flavor profiles and are really tasty. Although the traditional Angostura is my favorite, and that's including the one I put on the market three years ago.

          Why do you consider yourself "one of the disdained non- drinkers?"

          Even though I work in the spirits/cocktail industry I love creating non-alcoholic drinks for people who choose not to drink alcohol. I recently put 6-7 non-alcoholic drinks on several restaurants menus, and people love them.

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            kitchengardengal Sep 29, 2013 11:23 AM

            JMF, my comment about disdained non-drinkers refers to EvergreenDan's post about Julia Child. I meant that mostly tongue-in-cheek.

            I have to admit, it's been a long time since I've had Angostura bitters, and I am willing to take your advice and give it a try in some seltzer water.
            My intent was to point out that non-alcoholic drinks that have fruity or sweet flavors aren't necessarily "kid's drinks". There are plenty of very popular adult beverages that are loaded with sugar syrup or juices. Taking the alcohol out doesn't make them less "adult".

            1. re: kitchengardengal
              EvergreenDan Sep 30, 2013 05:10 AM

              Julia had similar disdain for her vegetarian guests.

              I'm not a fan of "popular adult beverages loaded with sugar syrup or juice". I'd argue they aren't really very adult, and removing the alcohol doesn't change that.

              I'm no doctor, but suspect the alcohol content of a dash or two of bitters in comparable to that of fresh-baked bread.

              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...

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          Hobbert Sep 29, 2013 11:33 AM

          I rarely, rarely drink and my husband never does. He's very happy with water and I'd love it if I was offered some really fresh iced tea or lemonade with a slice or two of citrus fruit. Frankly, I don't feel as though I'm missing out which may be the source of your discomfort. I'm only guessing, of course. The only time I feel awkward being the only non-drinker is when I'm offered something like milk and clearly as an afterthought. And then questioned about why I don't drink :)

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            DrinkinLife Sep 30, 2013 08:01 AM

            To begin, there is no such thing as as non-Alcoholic Cocktail because by the most accepted definition of Cocktail is a drink including Spirits. No that that nomenclature is done lets get to your issue. How about a bottle high quality mineral water, with or without flavor, with the same garnish as your Martinis? It would look elegant I believe and show you gave thought to their accommodation.

            1. monavano Sep 30, 2013 08:41 AM

              I generally order a seltzer with cranberry juice and lime. It's quite refreshing and can look rather elegant.

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                Sharuf Sep 30, 2013 08:54 AM

                One beverage that's caught on around here is the "Arnold Palmer". It's half lemonade and half iced tea. I've started seeing it in labeled bottles, which I think would be way inferior to freshly-made ones.

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                  antimony Sep 30, 2013 09:24 AM

                  Since you're not looking for a generic non-drinker's solution, and seem to be doing this regularly, ask the couple? (Perhaps seed the conversation with a few suggestions in the appropriate price range.) Fresh-brewed coffee might be a nice option, even if not traditional as a pre-meal rather than post-meal beverage.

                  1. BobB Oct 4, 2013 08:27 AM

                    One standard "mocktail" I offer teetotaling guests is a simple combination of 2/3 seltzer and 1/3 cranberry juice (I prefer the "100% juice" version to the standard Ocean Spray). Refreshing and not too sweet. Garnish with a slice of lime on the rim and you're good to go.

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                      Sharuf Oct 5, 2013 01:53 PM

                      The 100% cranberry juice I've tried is very pucker-inducing and needs something to sweeten it up to be drinkable.

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                        BobB Oct 6, 2013 01:41 PM

                        I'm not talking about 100% cranberry juice. Ocean Spray makes a product that is cranberry juice mixed with grape, apple, and pear juices for sweetness, but has no added sugar in the form of sucrose (or HFCS). It costs a bit more but tastes distinctly better than their regular sugar-sweetened cranberry juice.

                        http://www.oceanspray.com/products/ju...

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                      Klunco Oct 5, 2013 06:25 PM

                      I've found seltzer to be a versatile mixer for non-alcoholic cocktails. Serve in highball glasses over ice. Just mix seltzer:

                      -50/50 with apple cider for an apfelschlorle
                      -50/50 with fresh squeezed OJ for an "Orangina"
                      -50/50 with fresh squeezed grapefruit juice

                      -With 1.5 ounces lemon juice (about 1 lemon) and 1 ounce simple syrup for a sparkling lemonade
                      -With Limes for sparkling limeade

                      Then try making the sparkling lemonades with different flavored simple syrups (mint, rosemary, ginger, etc.)

                      1. Dapuma Oct 17, 2013 11:31 AM

                        Teance Lychee and Hibiscus cold brew iced tea is very good and has a hint of natural sweetness, it is easy to make, put in jar with water in fridge, wait 4 hours...done - they come in 3 pack pouches

                        If you want to get fancy could do a non alcoholic pina colada with luxardo cherry, if you use Small Hand Foods pineapple gum syrup that will give a lucious mouthfeel to the cocktail, the coco lopez cream has a good amount of sugar so it will need some bitters to tone down the sugar content that the rum usually tames

                        I am sure someone here can tell you what bitters would work best, maybe tiki bitters 6-8 dashes would be my guess

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