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ISO unpasteurized apple cider

chocojosh Sep 26, 2013 11:45 AM

Has anyone seen any in Boston or Cambridge? UV treated is fine. I've been checking the farmers markets but no luck. Any ideas? Thanks!

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  1. mjg0725 RE: chocojosh Sep 26, 2013 11:51 AM

    I'm pretty sure it can only be sold at the orchards themselves. So, you won't find around Boston and I don't think you can really find it inside of 128. My favorite is from Phils apples in Harvard Massachusetts. A new family took the business over this year from Phil, however they are keeping everything the same and still producing his state champion cider. It tastes exactly the same to me.

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      Allstonian RE: mjg0725 Sep 26, 2013 12:01 PM

      Yes, this is correct - unpasteurized cider can only be sold at the orchards. Phil's cider is excellent; I'm also partial to the cider from Honey Pot Hill in Stow.

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        chocojosh RE: Allstonian Sep 26, 2013 12:08 PM

        Ah! Too bad. In past years I got some at the gov center market from a woman who was there selling apples and pears. She didn't seem to sell anything else so I assumed that was all they did. She had great UV treated cider, but this year I can't find her...

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          Allstonian RE: chocojosh Sep 26, 2013 12:16 PM

          That may have been Noquochoke Orchards in Westport, MA - they used to do a number of Boston-area farmer's markets but seem to have scaled back this year. They're gone from the Brookline market as well.

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            chocojosh RE: Allstonian Sep 26, 2013 01:47 PM

            That's the one! Forgot the name

      2. re: mjg0725
        chocojosh RE: mjg0725 Sep 26, 2013 12:08 PM

        Is Phils the one on the road to Fruitlands Museum? If so, I had their cider once and loved it!

      3. greygarious RE: chocojosh Sep 26, 2013 12:05 PM

        Here are other threads on this topic: http://www.chow.com/search?q=%22unpas...
        You might try calling establishments like Beer&Wine Hobby
        and asking if they can point you to any locals who are making cider in their homes.

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          Madrid RE: chocojosh Sep 26, 2013 03:10 PM

          I've seen it sold by orchards at the copley and harvard sq. charles farmers markets. It is *so* good!

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            BostonZest RE: Madrid Sep 27, 2013 04:02 AM

            Did you pick it up at Hamilton Orchards? They bring cider to the market from Carlson Orchards in Harvard, MA. I love their honey crisp cider when it arrives.

            And to add to this question. I just wrote a column on crab apples and learned about British scrumpy. It's a hard cider made from crab apples. Has anyone seen any craft or small producer scrumpy in this area? A friend told me the major brands available are not worth trying.


            1. re: BostonZest
              catsmeow RE: BostonZest Sep 27, 2013 06:21 AM

              Clyde's Cider Mill in CT has many varieties of hard cider. I don't like them myself so never paid much attention to them. They have tastings, etc and a there seem to be many different kinds lined up. I just checked their web site and they don't have a list, but you might want to give them a call. They're located between Mystic and Foxwoods...about 100 miles.

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                StriperGuy RE: BostonZest Sep 27, 2013 06:27 AM

                Back in the day any decent New England hard cider producer would make their cider from a blend of apples AND crab apples. The tart bite/acid rounded out the flavor. It was considered a necessary aspect of making decent cider. Don't know of anyone doing that today, though someone should.

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                  BostonZest RE: StriperGuy Sep 27, 2013 05:20 PM

                  I hope some still do. I'm going to do more research and writing on ciders this fall. I'll try to find out who mixes in crab apples.

            2. Karl S RE: chocojosh Sep 29, 2013 11:54 AM

              The FDA promulgated a boneheaded rule over a decade ago that prohibited the sale of unpasteurized cider except directly by the orchard itself. UV-pasterurized cider can at least be fermented by adding a mother from already-fermented cider, but that's not true for any cider with a preservative added (which basically turns it into merely cloudy apple juice, rather than a living beverage).

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                hyde RE: Karl S Sep 30, 2013 12:06 AM

                Dowse's cider from Sherborn, pasterurizes their cider with UV.

                And its great.

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                  Karl S RE: hyde Sep 30, 2013 01:43 AM

                  Well, I only care for cider once it's started to ferment....

              2. Gio RE: chocojosh Sep 29, 2013 12:05 PM

                Tendercrop Farm in Newbury, Rte.1A sells unpasteurized cider from a farm in Maine.

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                  windward RE: chocojosh Sep 30, 2013 06:03 AM

                  Apple Annie's Brentwood, NH

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                    ColoradoXJ13 RE: chocojosh Sep 30, 2013 08:33 AM

                    Not sure if you are looking to make hard cider, or if you are just looking for unpasteurized cider, but I made 10 gallons of hard cider with cider from Cider Hill Farms in Amesbury last fall, it came out excellent. Spoke with someone there who assured me lots of brewers use their cider to excellent results. I treated with potassium metabisulfate for a day to kill off the wild yeast, and used brewers yeast for fermentation.

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                      chocojosh RE: chocojosh Sep 30, 2013 08:46 AM

                      I drove out to Phil's in Harvard over the weekend and got some great cider. Not pasteurized or UV treated. They also have jugs for sale that are slightly underfilled so you can freeze them.

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                        mjg0725 RE: chocojosh Oct 2, 2013 07:27 PM

                        Stopped there today. the dry weather has really intensified the apple flavor since my first visit when they opened 2-3 weeks ago. sublime stuff!
                        they have self serve fridge out & filled during the week. $7 per gallon.

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                        El Guapo RE: chocojosh Oct 1, 2013 09:51 AM

                        They were selling unpasteurized cider (UV treated) today at the Harvard Square farmers market. I'm blanking on the name.

                        $8/gallon, $5/ 1/2.

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                          Madrid RE: El Guapo Oct 1, 2013 12:39 PM

                          Im guessing you mean the market in front of the Harvard Univ. Science Center, since the Harvard Sq markets at the Charles Hotel are on Fri. and Sun.? I have only been to that one at Harvard. Univ. twice but was really impressed with the offerings. It is horrible to park around there, however.

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                          mwk RE: chocojosh Oct 1, 2013 01:14 PM

                          I just bought some UV treated cider at the Braintree Farmers Market, this past Saturday. I don't have the farm name in front of me, but it's located in East Bridgewater.

                          1. ScubaSteve RE: chocojosh Oct 2, 2013 07:19 AM

                            A bit of a drive from Boston but Cider Hill Farm in Amesbury has it.

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