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Anyone know of any place to purchase eggs not fed soy or grains? Places like Lily's as found in the search are fed soy and corn, Anyone know? Many places will say pastured eggs, but they also feed them grains as well!

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  1. Check your local farmer's market. I think the SM one has an egg stand where the hens ear bugs and worms rather than grain feed.

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    1. re: PeterCC

      That's what I have been doing. My local farmers market sells the eggs that eat bugs and worms AND grain feed. Im waiting back to hear from one farm...Healthy Family Farms.

      1. re: DavyLeo

        Oh hmm. I'm not sure if the farm I'm thinking of has chickens that feed exclusively on bugs and worms.

    2. You'd probably have to buy and raise your own chickens.

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      1. re: ipsedixit

        "TonyC does it. So can you!"

        1. re: PeterCC

          fwiw non-gmo, soy-free, corn-free organic chicken feed runs $30/40 lbs: http://www.azurestandard.com/shop/pro...

          I supplement from gama farm, and their eggs are freaking huge. It takes some kind of magically balanced environment for the hens to intake enough protein+calcium from foraging to lay eggs constantly. Even Rainbow Ranch, one of the few non-gmo, soy+corn-free egg purveyors I know, only offers eggs on a seasonal basis: http://www.rainbowranchfarms.com/#!pr...

          I've stopped questioning the farmers/ranchers because it's just not happening. Free-range pasteur-only eggs would run $10+ per doz.

          1. re: TonyC

            tonyc, i see that stuff is for youngsters. i can't find non gmo, corn free adult feed on the azure website.
            what do you use for your grownup hens, please?

            thanks.

            1. re: linus

              Scratch & Peck Layer (adult) feed: http://www.azurestandard.com/shop/pro...

              The stuff smells rancid

              Cascade also has organic soy/corn free, but only in layer formula via Azure. This doesn't stink as badly as the Scratch & Peck:
              http://www.azurestandard.com/shop/pro...

              If anyone wants to come over and rake organic manure + moulted feathers, please contact me. You get free shit; I won't even charge you.

              1. re: TonyC

                awesome, thanks. i take back most of what ive said about you.

                1. re: TonyC

                  This is awesome, Tony! We have been considering raising our own chickens and I might have to talk with you about your experience.

                  1. re: TonyC

                    man, the shipping on this stuff is prohibitive. does anyone sell it locally?

                    1. re: linus

                      Short answer: yes, in Costa Mesa, and Simi Valley.
                      The Feed Barn
                      2300 Newport Boulevard
                      Costa Mesa, CA 92627
                      949-548-3151

                      Theresa's Country Feed & Pet
                      1836 Erringer Rd.
                      Simi Valley, CA 93065
                      Map | Website
                      Phone: 805-583-3599

                      Long answer:
                      If you're in Pasadena & adjacent, Azure offers free drop-off here: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ne...

                      When you're ordering, you need select "Truck Route" and enter the drop point #. There are monthly Marina Del Rel, Torrance, Winnetka drops as well. Other drop points can be found by calling Azure directly. Then, you must go to drop sites on the day of delivery, within the specific time frame. It's almost always on a week day, almost always in the middle of the day (beacause apparently backyard chicken owners in American don't have desk jobs?).

                      ETA schedules can be found on Azure site here: http://www.azurestandard.com/drops/sc...
                      SoCal drop-points are on route K4 and K5.

                      There is a $5 "small shipment handling fee" for oders < $50: http://www.azurestandard.com/policies... This is, without a doubt, a major effing PITA, but all drop-offs are free.

                      It is, without a doubt, a major PITA, but all drop-offs are free.

                      1. re: TonyC

                        thanks a lot for this info, tony.

                2. re: TonyC

                  TonyC, wanted to pass on that Costco has started selling organic chicken feed in Northern California for $18/40 lbs the urban chicken trend has grown so. I was told this by a Guerneville orchardist and chicken farmer yesterday who's delighted he can afford to switch to organic now. Maybe it's available in LA too.

                  1. re: Melanie Wong

                    i'm going to piggyback on your post to tonyc and say i've not seen chicken feed of any kind in my local costco, but i will look for it next time i go, so thanks for the tip.

                    also, many thanks to tonyc for the feed rec. i drove out to simi valley to get it, and so far it's working out great.

                    1. re: linus

                      following up, found out the Costco "organic" chix feed is made by Cargil, labeled as "Naturesmart": http://www.agwayfeeds.com/agway/en/pr...

                      It's item # 787861 , and it's not avail via Costco Business Delivery.

                      YMMV

                      1. re: TonyC

                        Thanks for tracking that down. USDA Organic is organic in this country. But since the bag doesn't trumpet non-soy or non-corn on the label, it is probably not either of those.

                        The chicken farmer who told me about this doesn't currently feed his layers corn. He said he was going to start using Costco's product in January. Wonder how closely he's looked at it himself. He did tell me that he limits the amount of feed he gives his birds to encourage them to forage. Just a little in the morning to start the day, and then some put out at the end of the day to get them back in the aviary. He also mentioned two different breeds he'd be adding to his flock that are supposed to be better foragers.

                        1. re: Melanie Wong

                          Further comments: Cargill bought bankrupted Agway Feeds -- used to be a farmers coop -- in '04 as a way to directly market their non "Cargill" animal feeds. Agway now distributes Naturesmart brands; Costco BA stores sells Naturesmart $10/40lb cheaper than typical feed stores.

                          Strict organic definition actually means non-GMO as well, so Cargill, in theory, could be marketing these as non-gmo, "organic" feed, but they aren't. The problem with corn/soy feed is they're GMO, but if this feed is non-GMO, then it should even placate even the strictest non-GMO B.Y.C. folks. At least in theory.

                          My understanding is it is nearly impossible for city folk backyard chickens to survive on "foraging" alone... Understandbly so.

                    2. re: Melanie Wong

                      Great tip! Wonder if Costco Business services will deliver too? Have been hearing from a number of chefs and kitchen managers that their business orders from Costco are outnumbering those from other distributors. Order in the afternoon, get delivery the next day!

                      1. re: revets2

                        Don't know since I'm not a Costco member and only go in a store a couple times a year. I suspect that the ones that have feed available would be the same locations that are selling the chicken coops for home use.

                      2. re: Melanie Wong

                        thanks MelC,
                        however, organic feed, for many of the backyard bird keepers, is simply not good enough. organic non-soy/non-corn feed is REALLY freaking expensive.

                        also, no signs of chicken feed, nor coops @ any of the 3 Costcos I rotate through in near LA burbs.

                3. I buy my eggs at the Santa Monica Wed Farmer's Mkt. Mike's eggs are great. The $4.00 a dozen large AA, I believe are what you may be looking for. OTOH, maybe not. They sure do taste good. The $2.25 a dozen eggs are also outstanding. I believe the more expensive eggs are fed a different diet and thus are higher in Omega 3. There is always a line at Mike's eggs. They are located on 2nd St., just a stand up from Arizona. On one side is the nut lady, and the other side is Gloria's.

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                  1. re: maudies5

                    Thats a very cheap cost, and might be very telling, curious if he has a website? As I dont want to trek to Santa Monica for nothing.

                    1. re: DavyLeo

                      I once looked for a website for Mike's Eggs. No luck. Perhaps you will have better luck. When I am there this Wed, I will ask the egg lady where else she sells Mike's eggs. Will report back.

                      1. re: maudies5

                        Thank you so much. Very kind of you.

                      2. re: DavyLeo

                        Here's their facebook page, if that helps -

                        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mike-a...

                    2. I spoke to the woman at Mike's eggs today at The Santa Monica Farmer's Market. I specifically asked her if the $4.00 a dz eggs were fed soy. She said that those eggs come from chickens which eat NO soy and eat a diet of vegetables and worms which they get off of the ground as they are free ranging. I can't remember her specifically speaking about grains. Hope this helps.

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                      1. re: maudies5

                        But did the worms eat any GMO soy?

                      2. Not sure why we keep talking about Mike's... If OP insists, Da Le ranch completely free range/pasture their hens. You can see their chickens in action (here, they're eating chard) on their fb/instagram: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...

                        They are at Costa Mesa and some other S. OC FM's. Surely there are other farmers in LA area farmer's markets. Hopefully others can chime in.

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                        1. re: TonyC

                          I only mention Mike's because I live in W. Los Angeles and his eggs are the best I have found. The Santa Monica Wednesday Farmer's Mkt is my Market of choice.

                        2. Ha's Apple Farm, after 4(? I think that's what I heard) years and raising a few hundred chickens, debuted their egg program.

                          L/XL/Jumbo eggs are $6/7/8 a dozen. Totally pasteurized, fed on Tehapachi + left over farmers market greens sourced form all their farm stand pals. The chicks are fed no grains, but are shells for calcium. They're not at all the FMs, but SM, Hollywood, S. Pas, Alhambra, etc. gets 'em. YMMV.

                          Caveat: they're fertilized. But think of it this way, it's like a balut lottery.

                          Added bonus: their barlett pears are doing gangbusters this year. Couple of 'em this morning weighs well over 1 lb.

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                          1. re: TonyC

                            Okay I went to their site, no mention of eggs? Any links etc? What are they fed?

                            1. re: DavyLeo

                              My post mentioned what they're fed.

                              proof of new egg program:

                               
                              1. re: TonyC

                                Okay cool. Awesome I emailed them for more info. You wrote pasteurized so I took it a different way like what they do with milk. lol.lol. Oops. I wonder as I contacted a lot of other places that sell eggs and they mentioned the eggs would have no protein if they weren't fed grains... So I'm interested in these ones. Hopefully they reply soon. Also... What is the difference between fertilized and reg eggs beyond the obvious? Nutrients wise? Taste? Either way thanks mucho.

                                1. re: DavyLeo

                                  You can actually get pasteurized in-shell raw eggs. They are pasteurized through a special process that doesn't cook the egg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteuri...

                                  1. re: DavyLeo

                                    Sorry, my massive typo: pastured eggs. Me Engrish no good.

                                    I trust Ha's Apple Farm. She (a "Ha") specifically mentioned they do not trim beaks, and they're not fed any grains. They've been written up on LA Times (by Karp himself): http://www.latimes.com/features/food/... and on LAW: http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/20... (FWIW, there are still some Kyoho's available).

                                    The protein comes from seeds, worms, other bugs, etc. Visit them at Hollywood FM is probably way easier than emailing.

                                    Fertilized eggs just means they let the cocks have their way with the hens. Since they don't separate the roos, the eggs may be fertile (or they may not, the label just serves as a warning). If you hatch 'em, chicks may, or may not come out. What this means is you should probably crack these into a bowl first to confirm there won't be no chicken fetus in your omelette/ice cream.

                                    1. re: TonyC

                                      I've bought them a few times with absolutely no issues (and can't tell them from "sterile" eggs). Just get 'em into the fridge, and if there is anything alive in them, it'll be dead pretty quickly.

                            2. Why does a chicken consuming soy or grains concern you as far as their eggs are concerned?

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                              1. re: PommeDeGuerre

                                cause Monsanto.

                                1. re: TonyC

                                  <<cause Monsanto>>
                                  is more than enough explanation for me, Tony C.
                                  i agree with you here.

                                  1. re: TonyC

                                    They get a "protection act" and we get GMO's.

                                    Makes me want to get my own egg laying hen.

                                  2. re: PommeDeGuerre

                                    Saying "cause Monsanto" is a bit too simplistic.

                                    Saying "You are what you eat" is a little better.

                                    A good explanation why you should be eating pastured eggs can be found at Mark's Daily Apple:

                                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/egg-pu...

                                    "Chickens raised in stressful environments – eating corn, soy, and antibiotics, and relegated to a tiny cage that would result in atrophy were it not for the steroids – do not produce high quality eggs."

                                    Worth following the link for more insight...

                                  3. check out the Vital Farms eggs sold at Whole Foods.

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                                    1. re: westsidegal

                                      Pretty sure they use soy and corn in their feed. They are pastured but also fed an organic feed.

                                      1. re: taiwanesesmalleats

                                        just looked at their website.
                                        you are correct, taiwanesemalleats.

                                        here is an excerpt from their website:

                                        <<In addition to grass and other pasture goodies, our hens get a feed ration made up mainly of organic corn and a small amount of unprocessed organic soybean meal. It's the only way that we can ensure that they get enough of the essential amino acid, lysine in their diet, without which, they simply won't lay eggs. There are no GMO's or any other non-organic ingredients in our birds' feed. In speaking with a number of customers over the years with soy allergies, we've been told repeatedly that they've had no adverse reactions from eating our eggs.There are some soy-free eggs on the market, but they often use animal products such as blood or bone meal (mainly from chicken) or fish meal, a non-sustainable source of protein. We won't feed our girls feed that contain either. We are in the process of seeking a grain alternative to soy from non-traditional sources and hope to have news to you when we are happy with the results.The main ingredient in our girls diet however, remains what they forage in the pasture which, along with all feed is 100% certified organic.>>

                                        1. re: westsidegal

                                          Vital Eggs are darn good, though.

                                          1. re: revets2

                                            it's the only brand i've bought for years.
                                            worth the money imho.