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Snookered by tasteless low fat products. Growl.

Veggo Sep 23, 2013 02:45 AM

I bought a large jar of Dukes mayo and made a tuna sandwich. It was tasteless and it sucked. While sleuthing out the cause of this calamity, I noticed I had bought Dukes low fat. I plan to make a large batch of killer pimento cheese dip early in the week, so I made a second trip to buy real mayo. Now I have a huge jar of low fat Dukes Mayo, and I can't find anyone who wants It. I don't enjoy "lite" beer, either. It also sucks.
Anyone else not aboard the low-fat train of mediocrity? I won't even mention low fat ice cream. Or low fat cheese. Cheese mouse growls.

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  1. hill food RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 02:54 AM

    oh Veggo you knew better. we ALL knew you knew better.

    surely there's some useful use for the LF sludge.

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    1. re: hill food
      Vidute RE: hill food Sep 23, 2013 08:02 PM

      hair conditioner, covering water rings on wood tables, removing sticky labels, relieving sunburn....

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      dfrostnh RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 03:46 AM

      You also have to be careful because some low fat products contain more sugar to make up for flavor loss.

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      1. re: dfrostnh
        c oliver RE: dfrostnh Sep 23, 2013 04:49 AM

        That's been my experience with LF products.

        The easiest way to use full fat products in a low fat way is to simply use less of it. The best way (vs. the easiest) is to make one's own.

        1. re: dfrostnh
          C. Hamster RE: dfrostnh Sep 23, 2013 05:47 AM


          Just a fat/carb trade off

          1. re: C. Hamster
            fldhkybnva RE: C. Hamster Sep 23, 2013 01:36 PM

            This is my experience as well which I try to share with others. I'd rather go full fat than exchange for carbs, especially randomly added unnecessary ones.

          2. re: dfrostnh
            mcf RE: dfrostnh Sep 23, 2013 07:02 AM

            And crud like modified food starch and gums. I got off the low fat train 15 years ago, got healthier and food tastes good again.

            1. re: dfrostnh
              paulj RE: dfrostnh Sep 23, 2013 03:45 PM

              What flavor is lost when replacing soy bean oil with water?

              My problem with Veggo's complaint is that the main ingredient that is missing in a lower fat mayo is the lest flavorful one, the oil. Salt, vinegar, even the eggs contribute flavor. The oil is virtually flavorless. It does contribute to the body and texture in a way that water plus stabilizers can't, but that isn't flavor, at least not flavor as I define it.

              1. re: paulj
                Veggo RE: paulj Sep 23, 2013 03:50 PM

                I buy the Bumble Bee tuna packed in oil. The stuff in water is tasteless to me. I guess I like oil, Paul.

                1. re: Veggo
                  ipsedixit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:01 PM

                  I like to have the option.

                  Sometimes I want to have oil with my tuna, sometimes I don't.

                  But when I'm at the market, I don't always know which it is, or will be.

                  And tuna is something that I often will want to have on a whim and a lark.

                  And it's also not something I'm going to make a special trip to the market for.

                  So, I just buy the tuna packed in water. Then I can decide, when it's time to decide.

                  1. re: ipsedixit
                    Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 04:17 PM

                    I looked in my pantry. 6 cans of tuna packed in oil, 2 cans packed in water. 7 tins/ 3 brands of octopus, 1 cuttlefish, 1 baby eels ($$$), all in oil.

                    1. re: Veggo
                      LindaWhit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:20 PM

                      I always buy the same number of cans of tuna packed in oil as I buy of tuna packed in water. One of each mixed with mayo and a bit of salt and pepper, and I'm good for my tuna-finch sandwiches.

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                        Veggo RE: LindaWhit Sep 23, 2013 04:27 PM

                        I haven't tried the mix-and-match. For a while I didn't find the Bumble Bee in oil, either in FL or TX, and I wondered if they are phasing it out. Most shelf space goes to the water packed or the dry pouches I know nothing about and don't care to.

                        1. re: Veggo
                          LindaWhit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:13 PM

                          I usually buy the Genova solid light tuna in oil (Chicken of the Sea brand), and Trader Joe's solid white tuna in water. Since the Genova is sold at Trader Joe's (I'm pretty sure it still is sold there), it's easy for me to stock up.

                          I agree - I don't want the pouch tuna either.

                  2. re: Veggo
                    mcf RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:07 PM

                    That's because fat is flavor, it makes flavor last in your mouth, it spreads it.

                    1. re: mcf
                      fldhkybnva RE: mcf Sep 24, 2013 05:10 AM

                      I quite enjoy tuna in water, also then I can add what I want. Tuna in oil tastes like well a little tuna in a lot of oil but these are clearly personal preferences.

                      1. re: fldhkybnva
                        c oliver RE: fldhkybnva Sep 24, 2013 05:20 AM

                        I've spoiled us. Lately I've been ordering Ortiz Bonito del Norte tuna. Line caught Spanish tuna packed in olive oil. We don't make tuna salad really ever. Use this as is or mix with some red onion, capers, cilantro, s&p. Crazy good. Expensive but I recently got a case of 30 from Zingermans for half off with free shipping. I'm set for a LONG time.

                    2. re: Veggo
                      Cathy RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 07:07 PM

                      Solid tuna is older tuna and does not have the fat that younger tuna has. Solid packed in water is dry/fatless tuna in (non-fat) water. Solid packed in oil makes the tuna have more flavor. I don't have to add mayonnaise when making tuna salad.

                      Calorie count per 2 oz serving is a difference of 20.


                    3. re: paulj
                      c oliver RE: paulj Sep 23, 2013 04:09 PM

                      I don't think it's what missing but rather what's added. At least in mayo, it seems to be sugar which changes the taste entirely for me.

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                        pinehurst RE: paulj Sep 23, 2013 04:19 PM

                        I just went to the Hellman's site (the taste is similar to Duke, IMO) and it looks like the taste alteration is about the proportion of the ingredients (I'm guessing there are fewer eggs as well as less oil in the "low fat", plus in the case of the Hellman's Light Mayo, sorbic acid and modified corn and potato starch are added (neither the starches nor the sorbic acid are in the regular mayo). That could henky up the taste.

                        As for tuna, I find the tuna in oil makes the tuna taste "fishier" (which is a plus to me); maybe the fat molecules hold the invisible taste ghosties better than the water molecules?)

                        1. re: pinehurst
                          mcf RE: pinehurst Sep 23, 2013 05:09 PM

                          I find Hellman's, my life long favorite, disgusting now, full fat I mean. It has a motor oil heaviness and taste of not such good soybean oil. I gave it up for good.

                          1. re: mcf
                            Veggo RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 05:11 PM

                            Time for a 3000 mile oil change.

                            1. re: mcf
                              pinehurst RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 05:12 PM

                              I've been using Duke's (findable in small jars for a buck in the dollar stores around here)--a worthy mayo for the price, and it is Hellmanns-y (the way I remember the Hellmanns of my youth to be).

                              Sorry to hear of the decline in taste; is the olive oil version of Hellmanns any better?

                              1. re: pinehurst
                                HillJ RE: pinehurst Sep 23, 2013 05:14 PM

                                I didn't find the olive oil vers. tasty at all. It tasted and smelled wrong. I don't see why the original recipe needs to be messed with, it's perfect as is.

                                1. re: HillJ
                                  mcf RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 05:16 PM

                                  My tastebuds say they did mess with it, or I got a rancid jar with a fresh date.

                                  1. re: mcf
                                    HillJ RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 05:18 PM

                                    Honestly mcf, I think it just comes down to individual preferences. Folks say that cilantro tastes like soap, never experienced that.

                                    So we all gotta do what makes us happy :)

                                    1. re: HillJ
                                      Veggo RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 05:24 PM

                                      HJ, if cilantro is like soap... how do I say this delicately...perhaps it could aid with your itchy scalp problem?...:)

                                      1. re: Veggo
                                        HillJ RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:38 PM

                                        Aren't you a dear.

                                        Cilantro tastes like a spicy herb to me V, not soap. I understand for other folks it tastes like soap.

                                        1. re: HillJ
                                          LindaWhit RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 07:27 PM

                                          I understand for other folks it tastes like soap.

                                          :::Raising my hand::: I dislike even having to handle it from my CSA as the smell gets on my hands. But the taste (to me) is far worse.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                            HillJ RE: LindaWhit Sep 23, 2013 07:30 PM

                                            Bingo, LW! You are one of those lovely "folks" I was recalling.

                                            1. re: LindaWhit
                                              C. Hamster RE: LindaWhit Sep 23, 2013 08:04 PM

                                              Send the CSA stuff to me!!'

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                                                LindaWhit RE: C. Hamster Sep 24, 2013 06:29 AM

                                                LOL! I gave yesterday's stanky stuff to one of my CSA co-sharers. She'll eat it. ;-)

                                          2. re: Veggo
                                            HillJ RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:39 PM

                                            You still referring to my math skills? Aren't you adorable.

                                            1. re: HillJ
                                              Veggo RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 05:44 PM

                                              Now you have induced the quadratic equation to ricochet around my cranium for a few hours.....thanks a lot...!

                                              1. re: Veggo
                                                HillJ RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:45 PM

                                                You have only yourself to blame

                                                1. re: HillJ
                                                  Veggo RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 06:07 PM

                                                  I outsource blame. And little veggo's whereabouts in Quintana Roo is for the moment unaccounted for, so he is a cat of interest.

                                            2. re: Veggo
                                              Kalivs RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:47 PM

                                              Funny. Mayo is a great conditioner for hair. Your comment reminded me of that. I wonder if you could use the low fat mayo as conditioner?

                                              Realized many people suggested that further down the thread

                                              1. re: Kalivs
                                                Veggo RE: Kalivs Sep 23, 2013 06:05 PM

                                                I suppose I'm pleased to have the option. I turned 61 last Monday and I still have a full head of hair!

                                                1. re: Veggo
                                                  HillJ RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:09 PM

                                                  You may find some use for that awful mayo afterall!

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                                                    Veggo RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 06:12 PM

                                                    I dunno.... I don't think real men put mayonnaise in their hair on purpose....just sayin'. If SHE says so, I'll listen.

                                                    1. re: Veggo
                                                      HillJ RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:19 PM

                                                      That's what I'm sayin'.

                                                      1. re: HillJ
                                                        Veggo RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 06:25 PM

                                                        I'll try it tomorrow morning and report back. I don't want anyone I know in town to have knowledge of this.

                                                      2. re: Veggo
                                                        C. Hamster RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:28 PM


                                                        1. re: C. Hamster
                                                          ipsedixit RE: C. Hamster Sep 23, 2013 06:36 PM

                                                          I have to admit ... I just don't like mayo.

                                                          Of whatever kind.

                                                          Full-fat, low-fat, non-fat, whatever.

                                                          Give me Miracle Whip!

                                                          1. re: ipsedixit
                                                            Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                            Beat me, Miracle Whip me, break out the leather baby!

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                                                              C. Hamster RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 07:18 PM

                                                              I loooooooove Miracle Whip !!

                                                2. re: HillJ
                                                  mcf RE: HillJ Sep 24, 2013 06:01 AM

                                                  Well, yabbut, I've been eating and loving nothing but Hellman's my whole life. Til now.

                                                  1. re: mcf
                                                    c oliver RE: mcf Sep 24, 2013 06:16 AM

                                                    Or Best Foods as it's called on the Left Coast.

                                                    1. re: mcf
                                                      HillJ RE: mcf Sep 24, 2013 08:33 AM

                                                      Still lovin my Hellman's..

                                                      1. re: HillJ
                                                        mcf RE: HillJ Sep 24, 2013 08:40 AM

                                                        Who'm I to argue about individual preference? I had the same problem with another favorite, Ojai Cook. C'est la vie. :-)

                                                        1. re: mcf
                                                          HillJ RE: mcf Sep 24, 2013 08:43 AM

                                                          I feel the same way. Live & let live Mayo!

                                                  2. re: mcf
                                                    sandylc RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 06:51 PM

                                                    Yes, there is a strong rancid taste in jarred mayo.

                                                    1. re: mcf
                                                      Vidute RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 08:04 PM

                                                      they did change the recipe....they added water.

                                                  3. re: pinehurst
                                                    mcf RE: pinehurst Sep 23, 2013 05:14 PM

                                                    I don't know; they're all in plastic now so I'm not interested. I took some CHers advice and tried TJ's organic mayo in glass, it's the current household favorite. Even organic Ojai Cook, which I used to love, has intensely heavy soybean oil feel and off taste.

                                                    1. re: mcf
                                                      Gio RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 05:26 PM

                                                      Hellman's was our go-to but for several years it's been TJ's organic. We like the flavor although sometimes even It seems too rich and heavy.

                                              2. re: paulj
                                                westsidegal RE: paulj Sep 23, 2013 09:09 PM

                                                aside from the flavor of oil, all fat has the "mouth feel" of fat which everyone likes.

                                                when i took my first job as a private chef, i really didn't know how to cook. i covered my rear by adding as much saturated fat to every dish as it would hold. my employers thought i was "genius in the kitchen."
                                                little did they know.

                                              3. re: dfrostnh
                                                Isolda RE: dfrostnh Sep 23, 2013 04:48 PM

                                                They also contain a lot of guar gum for texture, and that has a really nasty aftertaste.

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                                                INDIANRIVERFL RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:02 AM

                                                Highest and best use is probably as a furniture polish.

                                                Better get a cup of coffee before your next shopping foray. Otherwise you might pick up oleo instead of butter next time.

                                                The shame.

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                                                1. re: INDIANRIVERFL
                                                  c oliver RE: INDIANRIVERFL Sep 23, 2013 05:11 AM

                                                  Actually mayo is touted as being good to remove sap from things. Seasonally that's a big deal for us as our deck sits under a big Sugar Pine tree.

                                                  1. re: c oliver
                                                    pine time RE: c oliver Sep 23, 2013 07:20 AM

                                                    Hair conditioner. Altho' full-fat probably works better for that, too.

                                                    1. re: pine time
                                                      tastesgoodwhatisit RE: pine time Sep 23, 2013 08:32 AM

                                                      Light beer works as a good clarifying rinse as well - I use cheap beer that people bring to parties for that.

                                                    2. re: c oliver
                                                      Isolda RE: c oliver Sep 23, 2013 04:49 PM

                                                      Has to be full-fat, though, as it's the oil that works.

                                                      1. re: Isolda
                                                        c oliver RE: Isolda Sep 23, 2013 04:50 PM

                                                        Ah, thanks. Sounds like the voice of experience :)

                                                  2. Gio RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:39 AM

                                                    There you go Veg. Send the offending jar off to C Oliver. She can polish her deck.

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                                                      c oliver RE: Gio Sep 23, 2013 05:45 AM

                                                      Like! And the dogs aren't discriminating at all so they'd REALLY like :)

                                                    2. jrvedivici RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:50 AM

                                                      When people use the term "low fat" I just assume they are talking about my ankles.

                                                      1. coll RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:11 AM

                                                        Lite beer (and OJ and so on): they just add water to make it light. I'll add my own water if I want to save calories, thank you very much!

                                                        1. coll RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:12 AM

                                                          I hear it's a great hair conditioner. Although I'd guess full fat would be optimum.

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                                                            pine time RE: coll Sep 23, 2013 07:20 AM

                                                            Oops, should read the thread before I respond!

                                                            1. re: pine time
                                                              coll RE: pine time Sep 23, 2013 07:47 AM

                                                              Nah, great minds think alike!

                                                          2. RUK RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:26 AM

                                                            I feel the same way. What's wrong with some fat, you don't have to eat buckets of it?
                                                            The best tasting yoghurt around here is a brand named Ömür, Turkish I think, and only Corrado's around here in Clifton sells it occasionally. By comparison all other yoghurt taste bland, especially the no fat stuff. Ömür contains 3.5 % fat and there is actually a creamy fatty layer on top!

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                                                              mtlcowgirl RE: RUK Sep 23, 2013 07:18 AM

                                                              ITA. Moderation in everything. Even Weight Watchers highly recommends dessert and snacking. Also, working off more calories than you take in has been the successful mantra for ages. People don't move anymore.

                                                              1. re: mtlcowgirl
                                                                mcf RE: mtlcowgirl Sep 23, 2013 07:39 AM

                                                                Defining moderation is as pointless as defining "healthy." No two folks call it the same thing.

                                                                1. re: mcf
                                                                  sandylc RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 06:57 PM

                                                                  So true. As for healthy, someone told me the other day about a healthy weight-loss program that allows a "treat" of sugar-free jello topped with cool whip. Sigh.

                                                                  1. re: sandylc
                                                                    C. Hamster RE: sandylc Sep 23, 2013 07:23 PM


                                                                    How dumb are people these days. How do those sugar free jello cool whip people dress themselves or manage checking accounts?

                                                            2. Tripeler RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 06:52 AM

                                                              When I was in college, my roommate used mayo instead of butter on toast. Maybe the low-fat would work as a spread like that?

                                                              1. Berheenia RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 07:31 AM

                                                                A favorite healthy cafe that was attached to a gym I went to used to make terrific chicken salad with low fat mayo. The trick was they also added some yoghurt and lots of garlic and onion powder. Same for their tuna and egg salads. Don't know if they used full fat yoghurt- the chef was Brazilian and I never got the actual recipe. I always added salt and pepper to my serving.

                                                                1. LindaWhit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 07:49 AM

                                                                  As Berheenia said above, perhaps use it in things that require a lot of herbs and/or spices? Some suggestions:

                                                                  Add wasabi to give it some oomph for a sandwich spread.

                                                                  Make a chutney mayo with some chutney, curry, and lime juice.

                                                                  Blend the mayo with a healthy handful of dried herbs as a marinade for chicken.

                                                                  Make an artichoke/spinach dip from it.
                                                                  P.S. low-fat cream cheese is absolutely VILE.

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                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                    Gio RE: LindaWhit Sep 23, 2013 07:55 AM

                                                                    Along the same line mayo with hot sauce is terrific. I mix it with Sriracha.

                                                                    1. re: Gio
                                                                      coll RE: Gio Sep 23, 2013 09:14 AM

                                                                      My favorites are wasabi, and especially pesto.

                                                                      1. re: Gio
                                                                        c oliver RE: Gio Sep 23, 2013 10:00 AM

                                                                        And my fave lately is chipotles in adobo.

                                                                      2. re: LindaWhit
                                                                        Veggo RE: LindaWhit Sep 23, 2013 08:29 AM

                                                                        Some of the low fat products will only snooker me once. When I learn there is a low fat version of a common brand, I check the labels more carefully. I agree about the low fat cream cheese - I inadvertently bought a bar of the Philadelphia low fat brand, and I thought it was remarkably tasteless, maybe better suited for use as a spackling compound.

                                                                        1. re: Veggo
                                                                          mcf RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 08:42 AM

                                                                          And it's not even low fat, just reduced fat, right? Neufchatel tastes like home improvement material to me, too.

                                                                          1. re: Veggo
                                                                            Gio RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 10:29 AM

                                                                            The only cream cheese we buy comes from a Jewish deli, an Italian salumeria, or a market that makes its own as our CSA farm does. Fresh Cream Cheese that the cheese monger has to spoon into a container or has already been prepped to sell. Come to think of it, our local Trader Joe's also sells fresh cream cheese, and Whole Foods does too.

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                                                                              c oliver RE: Gio Sep 23, 2013 10:40 AM

                                                                              Gio, that's good to know about TJ's and WF. I've only ever bought it in block. Looking forward to trying this. Thanks.

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                                                                          Bigjim68 RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 09:21 AM

                                                                          I buy nothing that contains the words light, low, or reduced on the label. I also try to stay away from those labeled improved. Generally those with the former are referring to taste, and the latter usually isn't.

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                                                                            mike0989 RE: Bigjim68 Sep 23, 2013 11:38 AM

                                                                            Oh I don't know about that. I do buy low\reduced sodium chicken broth. But, that's the only item I can think of.

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                                                                              coll RE: mike0989 Sep 23, 2013 01:16 PM

                                                                              Our deli sells Boars Head Lite Liverwurst, when I asked how that was possible he said it meant low salt. Guess there's no rules.

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                                                                                Bigjim68 RE: mike0989 Sep 23, 2013 03:13 PM

                                                                                I buy unsalted broths. Purchase unsalted everything when possible. I don't use much salt, and can add it if necessary.

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                                                                                  pinehurst RE: Bigjim68 Sep 23, 2013 03:37 PM

                                                                                  Absolutely agree. A lot of the broth companies seem to think that salt is a sub for flavor. I like salt in a broth, but if I'm not making my own, I also buy the unsalted and add my own.

                                                                                  I do, however, love salted butter.

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                                                                                    fldhkybnva RE: pinehurst Sep 23, 2013 03:51 PM

                                                                                    I also hate salty store-bought broths. I use Kitchen Basics for most of my broths which come in unsalted form and also have pretty good flavor.

                                                                                2. re: mike0989
                                                                                  fldhkybnva RE: mike0989 Sep 23, 2013 03:53 PM

                                                                                  I make a special effort to buy no salt just Turkey at Wegmans to use as deli meat. I love deli meats but at some point the salt is too much for my water-retaining genes. I will admit though that it's way less tasty then the other deli meat and I usually use it only when being mixed into something like frittata or a dip or something. Otherwise, it can be dry and flavorless.

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                                                                                Violatp RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 09:56 AM

                                                                                I was buying mozzarella this weekend and there was ONE brand that had whole milk cheese. Out of the twenty varieties, I had one option. Grrrrr.

                                                                                1. ipsedixit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 10:48 AM

                                                                                  I prefer low-fat yogurt, actually nonfat to be exact.

                                                                                  I also prefer low-fat women.

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                                                                                    c oliver RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 10:58 AM

                                                                                    I 'discovered' Chobani fat free yogurt a few months ago and I think it's better than any yogurt I've ever had. Granted I've only ever eaten grocery store yogurt but it was super.

                                                                                    1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                      linguafood RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 10:59 AM

                                                                                      As long as they prefer you, too.

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                                                                                        ipsedixit RE: linguafood Sep 23, 2013 02:21 PM

                                                                                        Yes, yogurt agrees with me, unlike other dairy products.

                                                                                        So, I guess, *they* do prefer me.

                                                                                        1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                          linguafood RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 02:22 PM

                                                                                          The "low-fat" women. C'mon. You're smarter than that.

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                                                                                        foodieX2 RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 11:31 AM

                                                                                        Thats pretty much the only product where I consciously choose the fat free option. Plain Fage fat free yogurt with sliced almonds or raspberries is one of my favorite afternoon snacks.

                                                                                        Virtually all other fat free/light products are just plain awful.

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                                                                                          fldhkybnva RE: foodieX2 Sep 23, 2013 01:37 PM

                                                                                          I agree. My favorite yogurt is Skyr which is made with non-fat milk.

                                                                                      3. weezieduzzit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 12:24 PM

                                                                                        Low fat and non-fat foods are disgusting. They add all sorts of sugar and carbs and chemicals to them to try to replace what fat does.

                                                                                        Since I switched to all full fat foods I'm smaller and leaner than ever. Fat doesn't make you fat, unless you have a health condition where you really shouldn't eat fat, enjoy real food that your body understands.

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                                                                                          HillJ RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 01:22 PM

                                                                                          I hope the jars not too big. We've slathered a few heads of fresh cauliflower with the stuff and a heavy sprinkling of salt & pepper, big dash of paprika and baked them off in a 350 oven. The mayo, even the low fat vers. imparted a nice creamy texture to the roasted veg.

                                                                                          Otherwise, I would have given the jar to my neighbor who seems to dance to a low fat all the time beat quite nicely.

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                                                                                            c oliver RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 01:49 PM

                                                                                            Ooh, now that sounds really good. With cold weather coming up and a dearth of vegetables, I'm seeing this on our table. Thanks, HJ.

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                                                                                              hill food RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 05:15 PM

                                                                                              reminds me of a friend's go to party dish - canned artichoke dip, just dump the quarters in a baking dish, cover in any kind of mayo and parmesan and bake (add crab if you want to be splurge-y)

                                                                                              1. re: hill food
                                                                                                HillJ RE: hill food Sep 23, 2013 05:19 PM

                                                                                                How's it taste?

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                                                                                                  hill food RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 07:40 PM

                                                                                                  pretty good in small amounts

                                                                                            2. fldhkybnva RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 01:39 PM

                                                                                              I go full-fat for nearly everything, however there are a few items which I find are pretty much the same without any additional fillers that aren't in the full fat version - Skyr Icelandic yogurt, 2% sour cream, 2% cream cheese, and Cabot's 70% cheddar which I used to buy all the time though rarely now as I am a cheese nut who buys at the counter most of the time. Everything else just tastes off, not worth eating.

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                                                                                              1. re: fldhkybnva
                                                                                                coll RE: fldhkybnva Sep 23, 2013 01:45 PM

                                                                                                I love Skyr...so rich. But I don't think it's technically yogurt? It's even better!

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                                                                                                  fldhkybnva RE: coll Sep 23, 2013 01:55 PM

                                                                                                  Perhaps not though my favorite brand Siggi's says "Icelandic-style yogurt" though I haven't read up on the official definition of yogurt in a while :) It is great stuff which I happened upon randomly in a hunt for grass-fed Greek yogurt, and the wonderful Whole Foods employee informed me about Skyr.

                                                                                                  1. re: fldhkybnva
                                                                                                    coll RE: fldhkybnva Sep 23, 2013 03:21 PM

                                                                                                    Yeah it's actually skyr, not yogurt, and it has some nutritional benefits beyond yogurt. But not a giant difference, and it tastes great.

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                                                                                                  mcf RE: fldhkybnva Sep 23, 2013 02:53 PM

                                                                                                  See, I hate reduced fat cream cheese, would rather do without, and I hate the Cabot's reduced fat cheddar. :-)

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                                                                                                    fldhkybnva RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 03:24 PM

                                                                                                    I think there's reduced fat and then 2% sour cream or at least my store has several in varying fat contents.

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                                                                                                      mcf RE: fldhkybnva Sep 23, 2013 05:11 PM

                                                                                                      IME, 2% is reduced fat, 1 % is low fat, and then there's fat free, no? It's the texture I really dislike in reduced fat cheeses, and in cream cheese, there's an off taste I pick up. Only lower fat product I tolerate is Fage yogurt.

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                                                                                                        LindaWhit RE: mcf Sep 23, 2013 05:22 PM

                                                                                                        Same here - I'll eat the lower fat Fage, and I drink 1% organic milk, which seems to have a slightly fuller mouthfeel.

                                                                                                3. ipsedixit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 02:23 PM

                                                                                                  Try this V.

                                                                                                  Take two brownies.

                                                                                                  Slather some of your faux mayo on one, then squirt a bit of Tobasco or Sriracha on it, then top it with the other brownie.

                                                                                                  You've now made yourself a Brownie Sandwich.

                                                                                                  Life altering? Probably not. But better than staring at a full jar of low-fat mayo all day.

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                                                                                                    Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 02:32 PM

                                                                                                    I don't even want to unscrew the lid again. I'm familiar with a hazardous waste disposal site in Utah, and I may send it there.

                                                                                                    1. re: Veggo
                                                                                                      ipsedixit RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 02:39 PM


                                                                                                      Just looking out for you, V.

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                                                                                                        Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 02:45 PM

                                                                                                        Gotcha, thanks. I had to transport asbestos from Denver to Utah by rail, I couldn't get it done over roads. Pricey.

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                                                                                                      Vidute RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 08:12 PM

                                                                                                      Why would you do that to two innocent brownies?

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                                                                                                        HillJ RE: Vidute Sep 23, 2013 08:20 PM

                                                                                                        I think I'm adventurous until I read a comment from ips. Unless it was a game of dare, I'm not sure that combo would hit my lips.

                                                                                                        1. re: HillJ
                                                                                                          ipsedixit RE: HillJ Sep 23, 2013 08:29 PM

                                                                                                          If it's good enough for Mario then I suppose it's ok for me.


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                                                                                                            Vidute RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 08:34 PM

                                                                                                            but, he doesn't mention the nasty low-fat version. unless you put that on low-fat brownies. like with like.

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                                                                                                              HillJ RE: ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 08:35 PM

                                                                                                              hilarious. I needed that, thanks. his love of the Sriracha is far from a secret.

                                                                                                      2. C. Hamster RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:37 PM

                                                                                                        I admit to drinking only skim milk. Like a half gallon or more a week. And I much prefer low fat yogurt.

                                                                                                        But then again *putting on protective gear* I really don't like ice cream, either.

                                                                                                        Reduced fat cream cheese is icky.

                                                                                                        Reduced fat cheese is grotesque.

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                                                                                                          c oliver RE: C. Hamster Sep 23, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                                                          We drink a lot of milk also so do low fat. It's just what you get used to. Full fat tastes not so good to us.

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                                                                                                          Isolda RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:47 PM

                                                                                                          If it's not intended by God to be low-fat, I don't want it, with a few exceptions. For example, I'll allow low-fat milk and yogurt, but I think that's it. Everything else is delicious in full fat moderation.

                                                                                                          And don't get me started on low calorie sweeteners.

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                                                                                                            c oliver RE: Isolda Sep 23, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                                                            Didn't know "God" made such distinctions.

                                                                                                          2. gaffk RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:48 PM

                                                                                                            Here ya' go Veggo . . . I just stumbled across this on-line and thought of this thread.


                                                                                                            Eight non-food uses for mayo. (Hopefully you don't need #6--removing lice--but apparently you can have fabulously shiny house plant leaves.)

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                                                                                                              Gio RE: gaffk Sep 23, 2013 04:54 PM

                                                                                                              In place of WD to lubricate hinges, remove tar? OK, now I'm seriously doubting using mayonnaise at all in anything.

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                                                                                                                Veggo RE: gaffk Sep 23, 2013 04:57 PM

                                                                                                                Funny - I brought up lice on a parallel thread yesterday. All of my plants are outdoors - many staring in the windows! Especially my pink hibiscus and scarlet bougainvilla.

                                                                                                                1. re: Veggo
                                                                                                                  Gio RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 05:04 PM

                                                                                                                  Thank the goddesses your plants are outdoors. You don't need mayo to shine their leaves. Clogs their pores, poor dears.

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                                                                                                                Isolda RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:50 PM

                                                                                                                Oh, and I would just toss it unless you have a friend whose kids have head lice. Even then, I'm pretty sure they need the regular mayo for the treatment to work.

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                                                                                                                  C. Hamster RE: Isolda Sep 23, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                                                                  If low fat mayo kills head lice...

                                                                                                                  Fill in the blank!

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                                                                                                                  nlgardener RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                  Cut your losses and run.

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                                                                                                                    Veggo RE: nlgardener Sep 23, 2013 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                    For $5.45, I'll call it a stupid tax and let it go. Same for the cream cheese. And the salad dressings. And the Jarlsberg cheese.

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                                                                                                                      pine time RE: Veggo Sep 25, 2013 06:07 AM

                                                                                                                      We try to be nice to ourselves when we "buy stupid"--we now call it "tuition."

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                                                                                                                        Veggo RE: pine time Sep 25, 2013 06:10 AM

                                                                                                                        Still others call it "alimony" or "child support".

                                                                                                                  2. Bill Hunt RE: Veggo Sep 23, 2013 08:30 PM

                                                                                                                    We have tried several "low-fat" products, and even restaurants. Not one has passed the test, and we have moved on, remembering to never buy those products again.

                                                                                                                    Same for restaurants, with the same concept. In Phoenix, we have a mini-chain of Mexican restaurants, Blue Burrito, that features no-fat preps. We dined there twice, and were horribly disappointed. Would never bother to go back.

                                                                                                                    We seek out tastes in our food, and if there is none, then why bother? If we need to cut back on something, for health reasons, we do so, and do not lock onto tasteless food - maybe just less of tasty food.

                                                                                                                    Low-fat "stuff" shows up in our house. We taste it, and to date, the reviews have been "two thumbs down." We then move on.



                                                                                                                    1. KaimukiMan RE: Veggo Sep 25, 2013 04:52 AM

                                                                                                                      several years ago i bought some low fat bologna made by a company well known for its first name and last name (my bologna has a first name its ...) The stuff was so unremittingly horrible in terms of taste, smell, and texture that I have subsequently refused to buy any products made by that company. If they dare to foister such a product on unsuspecting consumers there is just no telling the depths of their depravity.

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                                                                                                                        Violatp RE: KaimukiMan Sep 25, 2013 05:20 AM

                                                                                                                        You've reminded me of when I bought a four-pack of Light & Fit "Greek" yogurt. Well, not bought so much as had a gigantic coupon so acquired for practically free.

                                                                                                                        Even with that and not loving to waste food, I threw it away after one spoonful of one container.

                                                                                                                        It didn't even smell like yogurt; more like chemicals and failure.

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                                                                                                                          hill food RE: Violatp Sep 25, 2013 08:16 PM

                                                                                                                          the dogs would eat that...

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                                                                                                                            Violatp RE: hill food Sep 26, 2013 12:39 PM

                                                                                                                            My cat gave me a face when I held out a spoonful to her!

                                                                                                                        2. re: KaimukiMan
                                                                                                                          Bill Hunt RE: KaimukiMan Sep 25, 2013 08:48 PM

                                                                                                                          Dang, that sounds like the "low-fat, extra-healthy" Mexican food from some years ago here - no texture, no taste and didn't even look good. Remind me again, why I might want to eat such?


                                                                                                                          1. re: KaimukiMan
                                                                                                                            Veggo RE: KaimukiMan Sep 26, 2013 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                            My very reasonable proletariat cat from when I lived on Candlewood Lake in CT would not touch hot dogs or bologna in any form. He preferred the kittie bags from seafood restaurants, lobster and shrimp mostly.

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                                                                                                                            Harts52 RE: Veggo Sep 26, 2013 12:53 PM

                                                                                                                            I'm am totally of the "use it up" mentality but came to the decision a while back that I need to be more respectful of what I am putting in my body. I've made grocery blunders since then and have groaned all the way to the garbage can but, surprisingly, the anguish passes a lot faster than I thought.

                                                                                                                            Low-fat is one of the worst bits of dietary propaganda to ever happen. I put on a ton of weight dieting under the low-fat, low-carb regime, not being savvy enough to recognize they were part and parcel with high-sugar high-chemical. Funny, when I banned low-fat, low-carb and sugar-free from my diet, I started losing the weight.

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                                                                                                                              mcf RE: Harts52 Sep 26, 2013 03:45 PM

                                                                                                                              You meant low fat, high carb, right? Did terrible health damage to me, too. Learned to do my own research, never accept anyone else's conclusions or assertions no matter what.

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                                                                                                                                Harts52 RE: mcf Sep 26, 2013 04:16 PM

                                                                                                                                Yes I did! Thanks for the catch!

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