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  • Veggo Sep 23, 2013 02:45 AM
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I bought a large jar of Dukes mayo and made a tuna sandwich. It was tasteless and it sucked. While sleuthing out the cause of this calamity, I noticed I had bought Dukes low fat. I plan to make a large batch of killer pimento cheese dip early in the week, so I made a second trip to buy real mayo. Now I have a huge jar of low fat Dukes Mayo, and I can't find anyone who wants It. I don't enjoy "lite" beer, either. It also sucks.
Anyone else not aboard the low-fat train of mediocrity? I won't even mention low fat ice cream. Or low fat cheese. Cheese mouse growls.

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  1. oh Veggo you knew better. we ALL knew you knew better.

    surely there's some useful use for the LF sludge.

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    1. re: hill food

      hair conditioner, covering water rings on wood tables, removing sticky labels, relieving sunburn....

    2. You also have to be careful because some low fat products contain more sugar to make up for flavor loss.

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      1. re: dfrostnh

        That's been my experience with LF products.

        The easiest way to use full fat products in a low fat way is to simply use less of it. The best way (vs. the easiest) is to make one's own.

        1. re: dfrostnh

          Yep.

          Just a fat/carb trade off

          1. re: C. Hamster

            This is my experience as well which I try to share with others. I'd rather go full fat than exchange for carbs, especially randomly added unnecessary ones.

          2. re: dfrostnh

            And crud like modified food starch and gums. I got off the low fat train 15 years ago, got healthier and food tastes good again.

            1. re: dfrostnh

              What flavor is lost when replacing soy bean oil with water?

              My problem with Veggo's complaint is that the main ingredient that is missing in a lower fat mayo is the lest flavorful one, the oil. Salt, vinegar, even the eggs contribute flavor. The oil is virtually flavorless. It does contribute to the body and texture in a way that water plus stabilizers can't, but that isn't flavor, at least not flavor as I define it.

              1. re: paulj

                I buy the Bumble Bee tuna packed in oil. The stuff in water is tasteless to me. I guess I like oil, Paul.

                1. re: Veggo

                  I like to have the option.

                  Sometimes I want to have oil with my tuna, sometimes I don't.

                  But when I'm at the market, I don't always know which it is, or will be.

                  And tuna is something that I often will want to have on a whim and a lark.

                  And it's also not something I'm going to make a special trip to the market for.

                  So, I just buy the tuna packed in water. Then I can decide, when it's time to decide.

                  1. re: ipsedixit

                    I looked in my pantry. 6 cans of tuna packed in oil, 2 cans packed in water. 7 tins/ 3 brands of octopus, 1 cuttlefish, 1 baby eels ($$$), all in oil.

                    1. re: Veggo

                      I always buy the same number of cans of tuna packed in oil as I buy of tuna packed in water. One of each mixed with mayo and a bit of salt and pepper, and I'm good for my tuna-finch sandwiches.

                      1. re: LindaWhit

                        I haven't tried the mix-and-match. For a while I didn't find the Bumble Bee in oil, either in FL or TX, and I wondered if they are phasing it out. Most shelf space goes to the water packed or the dry pouches I know nothing about and don't care to.

                        1. re: Veggo

                          I usually buy the Genova solid light tuna in oil (Chicken of the Sea brand), and Trader Joe's solid white tuna in water. Since the Genova is sold at Trader Joe's (I'm pretty sure it still is sold there), it's easy for me to stock up.

                          I agree - I don't want the pouch tuna either.

                  2. re: Veggo

                    That's because fat is flavor, it makes flavor last in your mouth, it spreads it.

                    1. re: mcf

                      I quite enjoy tuna in water, also then I can add what I want. Tuna in oil tastes like well a little tuna in a lot of oil but these are clearly personal preferences.

                      1. re: fldhkybnva

                        I've spoiled us. Lately I've been ordering Ortiz Bonito del Norte tuna. Line caught Spanish tuna packed in olive oil. We don't make tuna salad really ever. Use this as is or mix with some red onion, capers, cilantro, s&p. Crazy good. Expensive but I recently got a case of 30 from Zingermans for half off with free shipping. I'm set for a LONG time.

                    2. re: Veggo

                      Solid tuna is older tuna and does not have the fat that younger tuna has. Solid packed in water is dry/fatless tuna in (non-fat) water. Solid packed in oil makes the tuna have more flavor. I don't have to add mayonnaise when making tuna salad.

                      Calorie count per 2 oz serving is a difference of 20.

                      http://www.bumblebee.com/products/tun...
                      http://www.bumblebee.com/products/tun...

                    3. re: paulj

                      I don't think it's what missing but rather what's added. At least in mayo, it seems to be sugar which changes the taste entirely for me.

                      1. re: paulj

                        I just went to the Hellman's site (the taste is similar to Duke, IMO) and it looks like the taste alteration is about the proportion of the ingredients (I'm guessing there are fewer eggs as well as less oil in the "low fat", plus in the case of the Hellman's Light Mayo, sorbic acid and modified corn and potato starch are added (neither the starches nor the sorbic acid are in the regular mayo). That could henky up the taste.

                        As for tuna, I find the tuna in oil makes the tuna taste "fishier" (which is a plus to me); maybe the fat molecules hold the invisible taste ghosties better than the water molecules?)

                        1. re: pinehurst

                          I find Hellman's, my life long favorite, disgusting now, full fat I mean. It has a motor oil heaviness and taste of not such good soybean oil. I gave it up for good.

                          1. re: mcf

                            Time for a 3000 mile oil change.

                            1. re: mcf

                              I've been using Duke's (findable in small jars for a buck in the dollar stores around here)--a worthy mayo for the price, and it is Hellmanns-y (the way I remember the Hellmanns of my youth to be).

                              Sorry to hear of the decline in taste; is the olive oil version of Hellmanns any better?

                              1. re: pinehurst

                                I didn't find the olive oil vers. tasty at all. It tasted and smelled wrong. I don't see why the original recipe needs to be messed with, it's perfect as is.

                                1. re: HillJ

                                  My tastebuds say they did mess with it, or I got a rancid jar with a fresh date.

                                  1. re: mcf

                                    Honestly mcf, I think it just comes down to individual preferences. Folks say that cilantro tastes like soap, never experienced that.

                                    So we all gotta do what makes us happy :)

                                    1. re: HillJ

                                      HJ, if cilantro is like soap... how do I say this delicately...perhaps it could aid with your itchy scalp problem?...:)

                                      1. re: Veggo

                                        Aren't you a dear.

                                        Cilantro tastes like a spicy herb to me V, not soap. I understand for other folks it tastes like soap.

                                        1. re: HillJ

                                          I understand for other folks it tastes like soap.
                                          ~~~~~~~~~

                                          :::Raising my hand::: I dislike even having to handle it from my CSA as the smell gets on my hands. But the taste (to me) is far worse.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                            Bingo, LW! You are one of those lovely "folks" I was recalling.

                                            1. re: LindaWhit

                                              Send the CSA stuff to me!!'

                                              1. re: C. Hamster

                                                LOL! I gave yesterday's stanky stuff to one of my CSA co-sharers. She'll eat it. ;-)

                                          2. re: Veggo

                                            You still referring to my math skills? Aren't you adorable.

                                            1. re: HillJ

                                              Now you have induced the quadratic equation to ricochet around my cranium for a few hours.....thanks a lot...!

                                              1. re: Veggo

                                                You have only yourself to blame

                                                1. re: HillJ

                                                  I outsource blame. And little veggo's whereabouts in Quintana Roo is for the moment unaccounted for, so he is a cat of interest.

                                            2. re: Veggo

                                              Funny. Mayo is a great conditioner for hair. Your comment reminded me of that. I wonder if you could use the low fat mayo as conditioner?

                                              Realized many people suggested that further down the thread

                                              1. re: Kalivs

                                                I suppose I'm pleased to have the option. I turned 61 last Monday and I still have a full head of hair!

                                                1. re: Veggo

                                                  You may find some use for that awful mayo afterall!

                                                  1. re: HillJ

                                                    I dunno.... I don't think real men put mayonnaise in their hair on purpose....just sayin'. If SHE says so, I'll listen.

                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                      That's what I'm sayin'.

                                                      1. re: HillJ

                                                        I'll try it tomorrow morning and report back. I don't want anyone I know in town to have knowledge of this.

                                                      2. re: Veggo

                                                        Ha!

                                                        1. re: C. Hamster

                                                          I have to admit ... I just don't like mayo.

                                                          Of whatever kind.

                                                          Full-fat, low-fat, non-fat, whatever.

                                                          Give me Miracle Whip!

                                                          1. re: ipsedixit

                                                            Beat me, Miracle Whip me, break out the leather baby!

                                                            1. re: ipsedixit

                                                              I loooooooove Miracle Whip !!

                                                2. re: HillJ

                                                  Well, yabbut, I've been eating and loving nothing but Hellman's my whole life. Til now.

                                                  1. re: mcf

                                                    Or Best Foods as it's called on the Left Coast.

                                                    1. re: mcf

                                                      Still lovin my Hellman's..

                                                      1. re: HillJ

                                                        Who'm I to argue about individual preference? I had the same problem with another favorite, Ojai Cook. C'est la vie. :-)

                                                        1. re: mcf

                                                          I feel the same way. Live & let live Mayo!

                                                  2. re: mcf

                                                    Yes, there is a strong rancid taste in jarred mayo.

                                                    1. re: mcf

                                                      they did change the recipe....they added water.

                                                  3. re: pinehurst

                                                    I don't know; they're all in plastic now so I'm not interested. I took some CHers advice and tried TJ's organic mayo in glass, it's the current household favorite. Even organic Ojai Cook, which I used to love, has intensely heavy soybean oil feel and off taste.

                                                    1. re: mcf

                                                      Hellman's was our go-to but for several years it's been TJ's organic. We like the flavor although sometimes even It seems too rich and heavy.

                                              2. re: paulj

                                                aside from the flavor of oil, all fat has the "mouth feel" of fat which everyone likes.

                                                when i took my first job as a private chef, i really didn't know how to cook. i covered my rear by adding as much saturated fat to every dish as it would hold. my employers thought i was "genius in the kitchen."
                                                little did they know.

                                              3. re: dfrostnh

                                                They also contain a lot of guar gum for texture, and that has a really nasty aftertaste.

                                              4. Highest and best use is probably as a furniture polish.

                                                Better get a cup of coffee before your next shopping foray. Otherwise you might pick up oleo instead of butter next time.

                                                The shame.

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                                                1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                                  Actually mayo is touted as being good to remove sap from things. Seasonally that's a big deal for us as our deck sits under a big Sugar Pine tree.

                                                  1. re: c oliver

                                                    Hair conditioner. Altho' full-fat probably works better for that, too.

                                                    1. re: pine time

                                                      Light beer works as a good clarifying rinse as well - I use cheap beer that people bring to parties for that.

                                                    2. re: c oliver

                                                      Has to be full-fat, though, as it's the oil that works.

                                                      1. re: Isolda

                                                        Ah, thanks. Sounds like the voice of experience :)

                                                  2. There you go Veg. Send the offending jar off to C Oliver. She can polish her deck.

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                                                    1. re: Gio

                                                      Like! And the dogs aren't discriminating at all so they'd REALLY like :)

                                                    2. When people use the term "low fat" I just assume they are talking about my ankles.

                                                      1. Lite beer (and OJ and so on): they just add water to make it light. I'll add my own water if I want to save calories, thank you very much!

                                                        1. I hear it's a great hair conditioner. Although I'd guess full fat would be optimum.

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                                                          1. re: coll

                                                            Oops, should read the thread before I respond!

                                                            1. re: pine time

                                                              Nah, great minds think alike!

                                                          2. I feel the same way. What's wrong with some fat, you don't have to eat buckets of it?
                                                            The best tasting yoghurt around here is a brand named Ömür, Turkish I think, and only Corrado's around here in Clifton sells it occasionally. By comparison all other yoghurt taste bland, especially the no fat stuff. Ömür contains 3.5 % fat and there is actually a creamy fatty layer on top!

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                                                            1. re: RUK

                                                              ITA. Moderation in everything. Even Weight Watchers highly recommends dessert and snacking. Also, working off more calories than you take in has been the successful mantra for ages. People don't move anymore.

                                                              1. re: mtlcowgirl

                                                                Defining moderation is as pointless as defining "healthy." No two folks call it the same thing.

                                                                1. re: mcf

                                                                  So true. As for healthy, someone told me the other day about a healthy weight-loss program that allows a "treat" of sugar-free jello topped with cool whip. Sigh.

                                                                  1. re: sandylc

                                                                    Omg!!

                                                                    How dumb are people these days. How do those sugar free jello cool whip people dress themselves or manage checking accounts?

                                                            2. When I was in college, my roommate used mayo instead of butter on toast. Maybe the low-fat would work as a spread like that?

                                                              1. A favorite healthy cafe that was attached to a gym I went to used to make terrific chicken salad with low fat mayo. The trick was they also added some yoghurt and lots of garlic and onion powder. Same for their tuna and egg salads. Don't know if they used full fat yoghurt- the chef was Brazilian and I never got the actual recipe. I always added salt and pepper to my serving.

                                                                1. As Berheenia said above, perhaps use it in things that require a lot of herbs and/or spices? Some suggestions:

                                                                  Add wasabi to give it some oomph for a sandwich spread.

                                                                  Make a chutney mayo with some chutney, curry, and lime juice.

                                                                  Blend the mayo with a healthy handful of dried herbs as a marinade for chicken.

                                                                  Make an artichoke/spinach dip from it.
                                                                  ~~~~~~~~~
                                                                  P.S. low-fat cream cheese is absolutely VILE.

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                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                    Along the same line mayo with hot sauce is terrific. I mix it with Sriracha.

                                                                    1. re: Gio

                                                                      My favorites are wasabi, and especially pesto.

                                                                      1. re: Gio

                                                                        And my fave lately is chipotles in adobo.

                                                                      2. re: LindaWhit

                                                                        Some of the low fat products will only snooker me once. When I learn there is a low fat version of a common brand, I check the labels more carefully. I agree about the low fat cream cheese - I inadvertently bought a bar of the Philadelphia low fat brand, and I thought it was remarkably tasteless, maybe better suited for use as a spackling compound.

                                                                        1. re: Veggo

                                                                          And it's not even low fat, just reduced fat, right? Neufchatel tastes like home improvement material to me, too.

                                                                          1. re: Veggo

                                                                            The only cream cheese we buy comes from a Jewish deli, an Italian salumeria, or a market that makes its own as our CSA farm does. Fresh Cream Cheese that the cheese monger has to spoon into a container or has already been prepped to sell. Come to think of it, our local Trader Joe's also sells fresh cream cheese, and Whole Foods does too.

                                                                            1. re: Gio

                                                                              Gio, that's good to know about TJ's and WF. I've only ever bought it in block. Looking forward to trying this. Thanks.

                                                                        2. I buy nothing that contains the words light, low, or reduced on the label. I also try to stay away from those labeled improved. Generally those with the former are referring to taste, and the latter usually isn't.

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                                                                          1. re: Bigjim68

                                                                            Oh I don't know about that. I do buy low\reduced sodium chicken broth. But, that's the only item I can think of.

                                                                            1. re: mike0989

                                                                              Our deli sells Boars Head Lite Liverwurst, when I asked how that was possible he said it meant low salt. Guess there's no rules.

                                                                              1. re: mike0989

                                                                                I buy unsalted broths. Purchase unsalted everything when possible. I don't use much salt, and can add it if necessary.

                                                                                1. re: Bigjim68

                                                                                  Absolutely agree. A lot of the broth companies seem to think that salt is a sub for flavor. I like salt in a broth, but if I'm not making my own, I also buy the unsalted and add my own.

                                                                                  I do, however, love salted butter.

                                                                                  1. re: pinehurst

                                                                                    I also hate salty store-bought broths. I use Kitchen Basics for most of my broths which come in unsalted form and also have pretty good flavor.

                                                                                2. re: mike0989

                                                                                  I make a special effort to buy no salt just Turkey at Wegmans to use as deli meat. I love deli meats but at some point the salt is too much for my water-retaining genes. I will admit though that it's way less tasty then the other deli meat and I usually use it only when being mixed into something like frittata or a dip or something. Otherwise, it can be dry and flavorless.

                                                                              2. I was buying mozzarella this weekend and there was ONE brand that had whole milk cheese. Out of the twenty varieties, I had one option. Grrrrr.

                                                                                1. I prefer low-fat yogurt, actually nonfat to be exact.

                                                                                  I also prefer low-fat women.

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                                                                                  1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                    I 'discovered' Chobani fat free yogurt a few months ago and I think it's better than any yogurt I've ever had. Granted I've only ever eaten grocery store yogurt but it was super.

                                                                                    1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                      As long as they prefer you, too.

                                                                                      1. re: linguafood

                                                                                        Yes, yogurt agrees with me, unlike other dairy products.

                                                                                        So, I guess, *they* do prefer me.

                                                                                        1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                          The "low-fat" women. C'mon. You're smarter than that.

                                                                                      2. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                        Thats pretty much the only product where I consciously choose the fat free option. Plain Fage fat free yogurt with sliced almonds or raspberries is one of my favorite afternoon snacks.

                                                                                        Virtually all other fat free/light products are just plain awful.

                                                                                        1. re: foodieX2

                                                                                          I agree. My favorite yogurt is Skyr which is made with non-fat milk.

                                                                                      3. Low fat and non-fat foods are disgusting. They add all sorts of sugar and carbs and chemicals to them to try to replace what fat does.

                                                                                        Since I switched to all full fat foods I'm smaller and leaner than ever. Fat doesn't make you fat, unless you have a health condition where you really shouldn't eat fat, enjoy real food that your body understands.

                                                                                        1. I hope the jars not too big. We've slathered a few heads of fresh cauliflower with the stuff and a heavy sprinkling of salt & pepper, big dash of paprika and baked them off in a 350 oven. The mayo, even the low fat vers. imparted a nice creamy texture to the roasted veg.

                                                                                          Otherwise, I would have given the jar to my neighbor who seems to dance to a low fat all the time beat quite nicely.

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                                                                                          1. re: HillJ

                                                                                            Ooh, now that sounds really good. With cold weather coming up and a dearth of vegetables, I'm seeing this on our table. Thanks, HJ.

                                                                                            1. re: HillJ

                                                                                              reminds me of a friend's go to party dish - canned artichoke dip, just dump the quarters in a baking dish, cover in any kind of mayo and parmesan and bake (add crab if you want to be splurge-y)

                                                                                              1. re: hill food

                                                                                                How's it taste?

                                                                                                1. re: HillJ

                                                                                                  pretty good in small amounts

                                                                                            2. I go full-fat for nearly everything, however there are a few items which I find are pretty much the same without any additional fillers that aren't in the full fat version - Skyr Icelandic yogurt, 2% sour cream, 2% cream cheese, and Cabot's 70% cheddar which I used to buy all the time though rarely now as I am a cheese nut who buys at the counter most of the time. Everything else just tastes off, not worth eating.

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                                                                                              1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                I love Skyr...so rich. But I don't think it's technically yogurt? It's even better!

                                                                                                1. re: coll

                                                                                                  Perhaps not though my favorite brand Siggi's says "Icelandic-style yogurt" though I haven't read up on the official definition of yogurt in a while :) It is great stuff which I happened upon randomly in a hunt for grass-fed Greek yogurt, and the wonderful Whole Foods employee informed me about Skyr.

                                                                                                  1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                    Yeah it's actually skyr, not yogurt, and it has some nutritional benefits beyond yogurt. But not a giant difference, and it tastes great.

                                                                                                2. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                  See, I hate reduced fat cream cheese, would rather do without, and I hate the Cabot's reduced fat cheddar. :-)

                                                                                                  1. re: mcf

                                                                                                    I think there's reduced fat and then 2% sour cream or at least my store has several in varying fat contents.

                                                                                                    1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                      IME, 2% is reduced fat, 1 % is low fat, and then there's fat free, no? It's the texture I really dislike in reduced fat cheeses, and in cream cheese, there's an off taste I pick up. Only lower fat product I tolerate is Fage yogurt.

                                                                                                      1. re: mcf

                                                                                                        Same here - I'll eat the lower fat Fage, and I drink 1% organic milk, which seems to have a slightly fuller mouthfeel.

                                                                                                3. Try this V.

                                                                                                  Take two brownies.

                                                                                                  Slather some of your faux mayo on one, then squirt a bit of Tobasco or Sriracha on it, then top it with the other brownie.

                                                                                                  You've now made yourself a Brownie Sandwich.

                                                                                                  Life altering? Probably not. But better than staring at a full jar of low-fat mayo all day.

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                                                                                                  1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                    I don't even want to unscrew the lid again. I'm familiar with a hazardous waste disposal site in Utah, and I may send it there.

                                                                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                      http://www.oig.dot.gov/oversight-area...

                                                                                                      Just looking out for you, V.

                                                                                                      1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                        Gotcha, thanks. I had to transport asbestos from Denver to Utah by rail, I couldn't get it done over roads. Pricey.

                                                                                                    2. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                      Why would you do that to two innocent brownies?

                                                                                                      1. re: Vidute

                                                                                                        I think I'm adventurous until I read a comment from ips. Unless it was a game of dare, I'm not sure that combo would hit my lips.

                                                                                                        1. re: HillJ

                                                                                                          If it's good enough for Mario then I suppose it's ok for me.

                                                                                                          http://blog.zagat.com/2013/05/mario-b...

                                                                                                          1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                            but, he doesn't mention the nasty low-fat version. unless you put that on low-fat brownies. like with like.

                                                                                                            1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                              hilarious. I needed that, thanks. his love of the Sriracha is far from a secret.

                                                                                                      2. I admit to drinking only skim milk. Like a half gallon or more a week. And I much prefer low fat yogurt.

                                                                                                        But then again *putting on protective gear* I really don't like ice cream, either.

                                                                                                        Reduced fat cream cheese is icky.

                                                                                                        Reduced fat cheese is grotesque.

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                                                                                                        1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                          We drink a lot of milk also so do low fat. It's just what you get used to. Full fat tastes not so good to us.

                                                                                                        2. If it's not intended by God to be low-fat, I don't want it, with a few exceptions. For example, I'll allow low-fat milk and yogurt, but I think that's it. Everything else is delicious in full fat moderation.

                                                                                                          And don't get me started on low calorie sweeteners.

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                                                                                                          1. re: Isolda

                                                                                                            Didn't know "God" made such distinctions.

                                                                                                          2. Here ya' go Veggo . . . I just stumbled across this on-line and thought of this thread.

                                                                                                            http://shine.yahoo.com/at-home/8-surp...

                                                                                                            Eight non-food uses for mayo. (Hopefully you don't need #6--removing lice--but apparently you can have fabulously shiny house plant leaves.)

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                                                                                                            1. re: gaffk

                                                                                                              In place of WD to lubricate hinges, remove tar? OK, now I'm seriously doubting using mayonnaise at all in anything.

                                                                                                              1. re: gaffk

                                                                                                                Funny - I brought up lice on a parallel thread yesterday. All of my plants are outdoors - many staring in the windows! Especially my pink hibiscus and scarlet bougainvilla.

                                                                                                                1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                  Thank the goddesses your plants are outdoors. You don't need mayo to shine their leaves. Clogs their pores, poor dears.

                                                                                                              2. Oh, and I would just toss it unless you have a friend whose kids have head lice. Even then, I'm pretty sure they need the regular mayo for the treatment to work.

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                                                                                                                1. re: Isolda

                                                                                                                  If low fat mayo kills head lice...
                                                                                                                  _____________________

                                                                                                                  Fill in the blank!

                                                                                                                2. Cut your losses and run.

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                                                                                                                  1. re: nlgardener

                                                                                                                    For $5.45, I'll call it a stupid tax and let it go. Same for the cream cheese. And the salad dressings. And the Jarlsberg cheese.

                                                                                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                      We try to be nice to ourselves when we "buy stupid"--we now call it "tuition."

                                                                                                                      1. re: pine time

                                                                                                                        Still others call it "alimony" or "child support".

                                                                                                                  2. We have tried several "low-fat" products, and even restaurants. Not one has passed the test, and we have moved on, remembering to never buy those products again.

                                                                                                                    Same for restaurants, with the same concept. In Phoenix, we have a mini-chain of Mexican restaurants, Blue Burrito, that features no-fat preps. We dined there twice, and were horribly disappointed. Would never bother to go back.

                                                                                                                    We seek out tastes in our food, and if there is none, then why bother? If we need to cut back on something, for health reasons, we do so, and do not lock onto tasteless food - maybe just less of tasty food.

                                                                                                                    Low-fat "stuff" shows up in our house. We taste it, and to date, the reviews have been "two thumbs down." We then move on.

                                                                                                                    Enjoy,

                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                    1. several years ago i bought some low fat bologna made by a company well known for its first name and last name (my bologna has a first name its ...) The stuff was so unremittingly horrible in terms of taste, smell, and texture that I have subsequently refused to buy any products made by that company. If they dare to foister such a product on unsuspecting consumers there is just no telling the depths of their depravity.

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                                                                                                                      1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                        You've reminded me of when I bought a four-pack of Light & Fit "Greek" yogurt. Well, not bought so much as had a gigantic coupon so acquired for practically free.

                                                                                                                        Even with that and not loving to waste food, I threw it away after one spoonful of one container.

                                                                                                                        It didn't even smell like yogurt; more like chemicals and failure.

                                                                                                                        1. re: Violatp

                                                                                                                          the dogs would eat that...

                                                                                                                          1. re: hill food

                                                                                                                            My cat gave me a face when I held out a spoonful to her!

                                                                                                                        2. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                          Dang, that sounds like the "low-fat, extra-healthy" Mexican food from some years ago here - no texture, no taste and didn't even look good. Remind me again, why I might want to eat such?

                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                          1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                            My very reasonable proletariat cat from when I lived on Candlewood Lake in CT would not touch hot dogs or bologna in any form. He preferred the kittie bags from seafood restaurants, lobster and shrimp mostly.

                                                                                                                          2. I'm am totally of the "use it up" mentality but came to the decision a while back that I need to be more respectful of what I am putting in my body. I've made grocery blunders since then and have groaned all the way to the garbage can but, surprisingly, the anguish passes a lot faster than I thought.

                                                                                                                            Low-fat is one of the worst bits of dietary propaganda to ever happen. I put on a ton of weight dieting under the low-fat, low-carb regime, not being savvy enough to recognize they were part and parcel with high-sugar high-chemical. Funny, when I banned low-fat, low-carb and sugar-free from my diet, I started losing the weight.

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                                                                                                                            1. re: Harts52

                                                                                                                              You meant low fat, high carb, right? Did terrible health damage to me, too. Learned to do my own research, never accept anyone else's conclusions or assertions no matter what.

                                                                                                                              1. re: mcf

                                                                                                                                Yes I did! Thanks for the catch!