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Yasher koach Craig!

DeisCane Sep 18, 2013 06:55 AM

Craig Winchell, aka GanEden, has launched his new label, "Agua Dulce"!

I was just forwarded this. Hopefully it works.


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    AdinaA RE: DeisCane Sep 18, 2013 06:58 AM


    The last bottle of Gan Eden in this household was regarded as so precious that it was "saved" for a sufficiently "worthy" occasion until it was finally uncorked and found to have gone off. (Probably because of inadequate - too warm - storage.)

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      Kosher Carnivore RE: DeisCane Sep 18, 2013 07:46 AM

      This is very good news! Craig aims for the very highest quality no matter what the endeavor. Good luck Craig!

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        ganeden RE: DeisCane Sep 24, 2013 03:35 PM

        Mild correction: Agua Dulce is not my label, it is my boss's. After I closed Smokin'!, I was offered a job making wine locally in the high desert canyons, about 35 miles from my house. The owner, a fellow MOT (though not frum), had just bought the winery (10 years as a nonkosher brand) and on a lark decided to commence kosher operations while still pursuing nonkosher with the "current" inventory, using estate grown grapes from the 75 acres of surrounding vineyard. So that's where we're at. It's not GAN EDEN, where I could pick and choose the fruit I wanted, and order any cooperage or equipment I desired. It is an exercise in humility, as I work with the grapes I get, using whatever cooperage or equipment I am lucky enough to have available at the time. But I have made good wine. So far I have released the 2010 vintage of kosher wine (Cab, Syrah and Zin), while we are still working on the 2008 and 2009 nonkoshers. Half of the 2010 vintage was nonkosher, as I did not get hashgacha until halfway through crush. All 2011s, 2012s and 2013s were crushed kosher (for Pesach, of course). So get hold of me, and we can fix you up with some wine. And I am so pleased the GAN EDEN name still elicits feelings of quality and nostalgia. I think you'll enjoy the current wines as well.

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          DeisCane RE: ganeden Sep 25, 2013 01:23 AM

          Thanks for the correction. But yasher koach nonetheless!

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            ganeden RE: DeisCane Sep 25, 2013 12:38 PM

            Thank you very much. I hope you enjoy!

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              hill food RE: ganeden Oct 5, 2013 09:04 PM

              I'll probably never get to taste it, but a cool story nonetheless.

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          ganeden RE: DeisCane Oct 2, 2013 06:03 AM

          The reviews the wines have generated so far are reprinted on the Craig Winchell facebook page

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            jdh11 RE: DeisCane Oct 5, 2013 12:19 PM

            Wow! this is amazing news. Now I'll have to get some friends who go to the states to bring a bottle back for me in Israel. Hope you can do the Late Harvest Gewurtzraminer again.

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              ganeden RE: jdh11 Oct 5, 2013 08:37 PM

              I wish I could, but right now I am only crushing grapes from vineyards owned by the winery's owner. He of course owns the 75 acres of estate vineyards around the winery, and additionally has an 800 acre ranch with a few acres of grapes on it up in Paso Robles. The estate fruit can be labeled "Estate Bottled", and that is what these 1st 3 wines are denoted. The others, in another appellation, must be labeled "grown, produced and bottled). In any case, just dry reds and Chardonnay in these vineyards, and it would be too hot to grow exceptional Gewurztraminer. So until the boss is feeling up to purchasing grapes, looks like we're out of the Gewurztraminer market. Even then, Gewurz is hard to come by, as most people cannot grow it well and the price is low, so they pulled out and replanted with more lucrative varieties.

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              ganeden RE: DeisCane Nov 25, 2013 11:14 PM

              Boss pulled the plug on the kosher project. Chances are likely that 2010 will be the only vintage under hashgacha, though the 2011 and 2012 vintages, in barrel at the moment, were produced under the OU up to this point. I have already begun using nonJewish labor for the 2013 vintage, which was crushed kosher, so the resulting wine is not. So the 2010 vintage might be considered a collectors' item (and quite good), while other vintages don't even qualify for our use. Oh well...

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                ganeden RE: DeisCane Dec 4, 2013 03:20 PM

                Yup, I want to verify that the 2013 wines which were crushed kosher are no longer kosher. Unless we can identify a way to finish the 2011 and 2012 wines under hashgacha, they will also be converted to nonkosher. A pity, since the 2010 wines just took their first medals in London.

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                  uncle moishy RE: ganeden Dec 8, 2013 08:37 PM

                  So how can an interested party get a hold of some of you 2010 wine before it's too late. Or is it?

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                    ganeden RE: uncle moishy Dec 10, 2013 06:19 PM

                    Not too late yet. Call Agua Dulce Winery, and ask to speak with me about kosher wine. 661-268-7402 . So far, I am the only one selling it, but that could change. We have it in a few more places, but as the supply becomes unreliable, so will those retailers as it relates to these wines. Now that things have changed here, who knows what the future will bring? Right now there's plenty.

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