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mangeur Sep 16, 2013 08:19 PM

Anyone yet checked out Lazare? Early reports look good; hours are great. In a perfect world, Frechon would bring back the inspired but grounded food he wowed us all with at La Cave Gourmande "when we were young".

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  1. Laidback RE: mangeur Sep 17, 2013 02:51 AM

    We are going next week so if no one reports in before then, I will chime in. Hopefully he is going back to the wonderfully prepared dishes from his solo gig at La Verriere up above Pere Lachaise back in the '90s.

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    1. re: Laidback
      mangeur RE: Laidback Sep 17, 2013 05:56 AM

      Exactly. LCG was the name after he left. I told you it was when we were young..,

    2. ChefJune RE: mangeur Sep 17, 2013 07:43 AM

      It's on my must do list for Spring. I hope it isn't a total mob scene by then...

      1. John Talbott RE: mangeur Sep 17, 2013 01:45 PM

        Probably Sunday.

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          John Talbott RE: John Talbott Sep 19, 2013 05:31 AM

          No it won't be Sunday for two reasons - 1. It's brunch on Sundays and 2. It's fully booked for the next 8 days. So, in 8 days, I'll see.
          Fully booked and this - according to Yves Nespoulous of Le Fooding - in a place that seats 110 and expects to serve 450,000 persons a day.

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            Laidback RE: John Talbott Sep 20, 2013 11:43 PM

            Same experience as you, John, tried this past Thurs. for next Thurs. and got the same response. Nespoulous' math is highly suspect none the less.

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              Parnassien RE: John Talbott Sep 21, 2013 12:27 AM

              Something seems to have been lost in translation. Yves Nespoulous didn't say that the Lazare restaurant expects to serve 450,000 persons a day... he simply pointed out the incongruity of Frechon from the uber-exclusive Bristol now rubbing shoulders with the 450,000 folks who use the Gare Saint Lazare every day.

              BTW, there are unreserved seats at the bar if anyone is desperate for a sample.

              1. re: Parnassien
                John Talbott RE: Parnassien Sep 21, 2013 07:02 AM

                "450,000 folks who use the Gare Saint Lazare"
                Sorry if I miscommunicated that the place is open from 7 AM to Midnight and some of the 450,000 passing though will not eat at the 110 cover resto but the bar, table d'hote, etc.
                I still was struck that it's booked for 8 days ahead after being open only a few weeks.

                1. re: John Talbott
                  Ptipois RE: John Talbott Sep 21, 2013 10:25 AM

                  'Fully booked' may also be a PR trick.
                  The place had better be good.

                  1. re: Ptipois
                    John Talbott RE: Ptipois Sep 21, 2013 01:29 PM

                    So wanna come with us?
                    As for "fully booked", aside from the book, my reference is to (you're to young to recall) Michael Todd (the 3rd of 7 husbands of the wonderful Elizabeth, I went to sleep...... ah faggedaboutit) who after his Todd-AO film opened on Times Square had an empty theatre until he posted a sign saying something like "NEXT SHOWING SOLD OUT."
                    I believe that's now a case at the HBS.

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                      Ptipois RE: John Talbott Sep 21, 2013 02:15 PM

                      That's exactly what I mean.

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                    adrian RE: John Talbott Oct 23, 2013 01:19 PM

                    Now booked 3 weeks ahead for dinner!

                  3. re: Parnassien
                    John Talbott RE: Parnassien Sep 28, 2013 11:53 AM

                    "BTW, there are unreserved seats at the bar if anyone is desperate for a sample."
                    I never, ever disagree with my young, better informed friend, he from Mount Parnassus, but today until about 16h20, they were, as they say in Brooklyn, "totally taken" .
                    There are three rules here and they are: Reserve, Reserve, Reserve.

              2. John Talbott RE: mangeur Sep 28, 2013 08:46 AM

                Four of ate there today after a pause of 8 days and it was not the Eric Frechon of La Verriere, Le restaurant d'Eric Frechon, Eric Frechon, le Bristol, le Crillon, or le Mini-Palais - it was in Monty Python's term's totally different - hustling, bustling, loud (87.8 dB), slow between courses, sloppy (well, it's only been open 17 days) and divine food at semi-reasonable prices. Not a mis-slip in the food department.
                We tried the fried gambas, haricots and also lettuce salads (superb dressings both); 7-hour lamb and sole Dieppoise; Paris-Deauville cake and aumoniere de crepe, pommes, caramel, etc.
                The bill, with two bottles of Rasteau, no bottled water and 4 coffees, was 267 E ÷ 4 = about 67 E thus about 134 E a couple. Longer description & pix to follow.

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                  travelluver RE: John Talbott Nov 6, 2013 04:37 PM

                  based on the above - pick another place!

                  1. re: travelluver
                    mangeur RE: travelluver Nov 6, 2013 05:06 PM

                    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Since I have never known Meg to write a false note, I will indeed heed her warning. Perhaps waiting until bookings cool down. Or longer.

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                      Jake Dear RE: mangeur Nov 6, 2013 05:41 PM

                      "Or longer," indeed. This place will have a big asterisk on our list until I read otherwise from others whom I trust as much as Meg. -- Jake

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                        John Talbott RE: Jake Dear Nov 7, 2013 12:16 AM

                        Don't know if you trust me as much as Meg, Jake, but I had a completely different experience, like Adrian Moore my service was professional and prompt.
                        Yes, once I had to flag a wait-person down to get something, maybe an extra spoon.
                        And I found the food to be my 3rd best experience in 2013, although today's at the Auberge des Saints Pere in Aulnay, may push it down the list.

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                          Parnassien RE: John Talbott Nov 7, 2013 02:29 AM

                          I'm firmly in Talbott le Vénérable's corner on this one. I've been 3 times since it opened and can't muster a single whisper of displeasure. Food is very good, staff have been flirty and twinkly-eyed. Of course, John and I are sex objects so that might have made the service a little warmer for us.

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                            Parigi RE: Parnassien Nov 7, 2013 02:35 AM

                            Indeed you two are the undisputed hunks of Right and Left Banks, But Meg and her dude ain't chopped foie either.

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                              Parnassien RE: Parigi Nov 7, 2013 03:02 AM

                              I didn't mean to imply that Meg (whom I don't know) was unattractive. But the male undisputed hunks of Right and Left Banks do have a certain advantage at Lazare.

                              (Head bowed, waiting for Cixi's executioner's sword)

                              1. re: Parigi
                                John Talbott RE: Parigi Nov 7, 2013 12:03 PM

                                "John and I are sex objects"
                                "hunks of Right and Left Banks"
                                So, I'd like to stay on topic here and in the spirit of full disclosure, state that when I ate that one time at Lazare, (Parnassien, I did once have a slush fund, but,....) which remains number 3 (after Hugo Desnoyer and Les Tablettes, etc,) for 2013, I was with three brainy women, who outclassed me in all categories of intelligence, food know-how and cooth.
                                As even more disclosure, I know and respect and work for Meg and I think she reports it as it was.
                                I hope Eric Frechon does listen, but I also hope folks here will not immediately press the delete button and wipe Lazare of fhe list.
                                Y'all are too savvy for that.
                                Go, see for yourself.
                                Report back.
                                As for Mongeur's wish that "bookings cool down", I suspect they are getting to the Spring, Frenchie, Septime, etc., etc., level and will not cool down for quite some months.
                                But there you go - as I always say, it's not the end of the world if you "have to settle for" Roca or Belhara or Le Pario or Franck Enee or Bruyere or Lulli or or or.

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