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Fun, informal, quiet restaurant on West Side

lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 01:04 PM

Friends are coming to town and want to take us and another couple they want us to meet to a west side restaurant. They are staying in Santa Monica. They want a restaurant that is "fun, informal, not too loud ideally with round tables" and of course serving great food. To give you some idea of their taste, their first choice was to go to Din Tai Fung, until they realized how far it is from Santa Monica. It's not that they want Chinese necessarily, just that they want something informal, very good and quiet enough to talk.

Any suggestions?

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    ilysla RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 02:01 PM

    Price range?

    And what does "fun" mean? Genuine question b/c, while I think the food at DTF is fine, it comes nowhere near my definition of "fun." Do they mean ethnic food that they can't get readily in their hometown? A lively ambiance (which might be hard to combine w/ quiet enough where one can still have a conversation)?

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      Thor123 RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 02:08 PM

      How about Shamshiri Grill on Westwood near Santa Monica Bl. Really good Persian food. Fun, informal, not too loud and round tables (I believe). Another choice just up the street on the west side of Westwood is Emporium Thai, which is very good with some unique Southern Thai dishes.

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        bringiton RE: Thor123 Sep 16, 2013 04:15 PM

        +1 for Samshiri Grill.

        How about dinner at the Fairmont Hotel in Santa Monica at Fig? We went there a couple of weeks ago, had a fun dinner with some friends, then had drinks after dinner on the back patio of the hotel.

        How about Joe's in Venice?

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          kevin RE: Thor123 Sep 16, 2013 04:17 PM

          soft shell crabs are great there too, though i can't remember if they are still in season.

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          ilysla RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 05:30 PM

          Monte Alban
          MIlo and Olive (if you don't go during "prime" dinner hrs....)

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            bulavinaka RE: ilysla Sep 16, 2013 05:42 PM

            +1 on Tapenade. Hit the patio while we have this weather.

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              kevin RE: bulavinaka Sep 16, 2013 05:47 PM

              Or how about combine Flores and Tapenade together for a decent meal ?

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                bulavinaka RE: kevin Sep 16, 2013 06:19 PM

                I haven't been to Flores but one can have a very good meal at Tapenade alone. Considering the neighborhood choices and their close proximity, Flores might be direct competition for Tapenade

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              maudies5 RE: ilysla Sep 16, 2013 05:49 PM

              I wouldn't exactly characterize Milo and Olive as "quiet."

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                westsidegal RE: ilysla Sep 16, 2013 05:52 PM

                re: milo and olive
                although i love their food, i would not consider the cramped communal tables and the continual defragging of said tables as something that i'd define as "fun."

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                  bulavinaka RE: westsidegal Sep 16, 2013 06:21 PM

                  +1 on maudies5 and westsidegal. M&O is great, but one goes there despite the seating and noise.

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                    ilysla RE: bulavinaka Sep 16, 2013 09:22 PM

                    maudie5, I found Tavern to be overwhelmingly painful and deafening in terms of noise, so I think we just have different ears. I did also specified to not go during prime during hrs. ;) Outside of those hrs, noise isn't generally an issue....

                    My partner and I actually have some fun conversations w/ the people next to us there. This, despite the fact that communal seating doesn't normally appeal to me at all. The people-watching in such close proximity can also be fun....

                    And I also did ask the OP to clarify what he/she meant by fun.... No answer, so I'm left to my own definition.... ;)

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                      maudies5 RE: ilysla Sep 17, 2013 08:06 AM

                      Trust me, Tavern is not deafening in terms of noise. My husband is extremely hard of hearing and wears hearing aids. By necessity, this rules out many restaurants. One of the reasons we enjoy Tavern, in addition to the food, is our ability to converse.

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                        ilysla RE: maudies5 Sep 17, 2013 08:52 AM

                        Like I said, we have different ears. *In your opinion*, Tavern isn't deafening. I have excellent hearing, and I couldn't hear the people across the table from me and was hoarse later that evening from straining my voice to have my dining companions hear me.

                        The acoustical construction of the place was clearly developed to create a noticeable but indistinguishable background roar, which can be very problematic for some people (i.e., me). People who are hard of hearing aren't necessarily going to be bothered by it b/c they probably don't register all the background noise. ::shrug::

              2. wienermobile RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 05:57 PM

                Superba Snack Bar Venice

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                  ipsedixit RE: wienermobile Sep 16, 2013 06:49 PM

                  SSB is not quiet.

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                    cookie monster RE: ipsedixit Sep 16, 2013 09:29 PM

                    No, it's the opposite of quiet. The last time I went there I had to practice my lip reading skills because I could not hear my friend who was sitting across the table from me, and when i got home my ears were ringing like I'd been at a concert.

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                      wienermobile RE: cookie monster Sep 17, 2013 02:09 PM

                      Should of said the Patio. sorry.

                2. Servorg RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 06:18 PM

                  On the patio at Plan Check http://www.plancheck.com/

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                    bulavinaka RE: Servorg Sep 16, 2013 06:24 PM

                    I really like Plan Check but might be just outside the OP's perameters IMHO. It gets loud amd crowded, and the tables are pretty cramped.

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                      Servorg RE: bulavinaka Sep 16, 2013 06:29 PM

                      Outside tends to very "hearing" friendly and the tables are nicely spaced out there.

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                        kevin RE: Servorg Sep 16, 2013 06:30 PM

                        Though the exhaust and fumes outside might make be hard of hearing.

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                          Servorg RE: kevin Sep 16, 2013 06:35 PM

                          The traffic on the northern end of Sawtelle isn't nearly as intense as it is south of La Grange on down to Olympic.

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                          bulavinaka RE: Servorg Sep 16, 2013 07:02 PM

                          I've been on the sidewalk patio when it's packed, and it feels pretty crowded and loud to me, but I'm a wuss when it comes to noise and crowds.

                    2. PeterCC RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 06:38 PM

                      What about Tokyo Kalbi? The DIY at-the-table-ness of it is naturally fun; it's not as rowdy or noisy as Gyu-Kaku. Only thing is that it's not super-casual, but it's not at all dressy either.

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                        lwinkelman RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 09:36 PM

                        What do they mean by "fun"? I am left to guess too. I suspect they mean 1) not formal: no airs, pretentions, attitude or stuffiness 2) not too expensive, and 3) something out of the ordinary for them. Perhaps there is something also about authenticity (while some would call LA Live fun, I don't think it would appeal to them). They live in Boston, which has good restaurants of its own, but I think they would like something they can't get there.

                        In an email, my friend just mentioned another LA restaurant she thinks is "fun": Versailles. Not exactly west side, but its closer to Santa Monica than Din Tai Fung.

                        BTW/ What does OP mean? I hope not Obnoxious Person.

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                          PeterCC RE: lwinkelman Sep 16, 2013 09:44 PM

                          OP: Original Post(er).

                          Versailles isn't very quiet, and isn't considered very authentic for what that's worth. My family and I like it, though.

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                            ilysla RE: PeterCC Sep 17, 2013 10:21 AM

                            I think Versailles would be fine if you're looking for food that's tasty and satisfying but isn't "great."

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                              kevin RE: ilysla Sep 17, 2013 11:07 AM

                              I know too many, way too many people, that think that Versailles is a real treat and some of the best stuff around.

                              I beg to differ.

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                                ilysla RE: kevin Sep 17, 2013 11:17 AM

                                Agreed, but casual, cheap, and reasonably good have their place, too. And perhaps that'll be what the OP's friends are looking for?

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                                  lwinkelman RE: kevin Sep 17, 2013 11:19 AM

                                  Their chicken is dry and overcooked (you would think they would have that down by now), but I'll tell you: I would eat cardboard if I could put enough of that lemon-garlic sauce on it. The sides are simple and good: rice, beans, plantains, and fried yucca. It is inexpensive and close to my house. So we bring in from Versailles fairly often. It is not on my list of places I take visitors when I want to show them the best food LA has to offer. But I don't mind a meal there now and then.

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                                    ilysla RE: lwinkelman Sep 17, 2013 11:24 AM

                                    I haven't been in yrs, but the lemon-garlic sauce makes rainbows and unicorns appear for me. ;)

                                    Check out the website for Flores to see if that'd fit your friends' criteria. Don't know what the noise level is b/c I've only been for Sunday brunch (and there weren't many people present). I do imagine the inside could get noisy, but they have PLENTY of outdoor seating (possibly some round tables? Can't remember), and there's a large fence around one the patios, so you don't feel like you're sitting in the street.... The back room of Waterloo and City also seemed like quite a civilized place for conversation.

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                                      chrishei RE: ilysla Sep 17, 2013 02:12 PM

                                      Waterloo & City isn't very loud in general, and I've always had fun & good meals there.

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                                    bringiton RE: kevin Sep 17, 2013 03:14 PM

                                    The garlic chicken is very tasty at Versailles. Its not fine dining, but I don't have the time or money for fine dining every night.

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                                      westsidegal RE: bringiton Sep 17, 2013 03:48 PM

                                      imho, although the chicken is tasty at versailles, it is very far from being "great food."

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                              yogachik RE: lwinkelman Sep 17, 2013 08:10 AM

                              Nook is what came to my mind first.

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                                Wayno RE: yogachik Sep 17, 2013 09:38 AM

                                Nook was 1st one that popped in my mind too.

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                                  foodiemahoodie RE: Wayno Sep 17, 2013 10:45 AM

                                  No round tables at The Nook.

                                  I was going to recommend Rustic Canyon, but no round tables there either.

                                  Buffalo Club? Round tables, fun, but is is quiet? It is inside, but not as fun.

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                                    maudies5 RE: foodiemahoodie Sep 17, 2013 10:53 AM

                                    Bouchon has round tables and sitting on the patio is fun and great for people watching. Not too noisy and food is terrific. You can even bring Fido.

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                                    westsidegal RE: Wayno Sep 17, 2013 02:54 PM

                                    <<and of course serving great food>>

                                    imho, nook does NOT serve great food.
                                    if you must eat there, i'd advise sticking to the comfort food and avoiding the fish.

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                                      nosh RE: Wayno Sep 17, 2013 05:50 PM

                                      There is at least one boothy corner table in the back at Nook that could work, as well as taking one half of the middle communal table. Three of those side two-tops pushed together? I don't know...

                                      After all these years now, I still think Nook is a gem for tasty food, good portions, and excellent service and value.

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                                    lwinkelman RE: lwinkelman Sep 17, 2013 06:08 PM

                                    Thanks for all the great suggestions. You listed many of my favorites. In the end, I am giving them three choices: Versailles, Mount Alban and Flores. It is a diverse group of restaurants and I think they will like all three. I will let you know what they choose and how they like it.

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