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anthony bourdain in jerusalem - parts unknown on sunday at 9pm, CNN

shoelace Sep 13, 2013 12:45 PM

love anthony bourdain, and have been waiting for this for years, ftr, fios in queens its channel 100

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    EmpireState RE: shoelace Sep 15, 2013 03:15 PM

    It's on at 8 PM. I am looking forward to it as well. Wonder what exotic delicacies he will find in the holy city..

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      shoelace RE: EmpireState Sep 15, 2013 05:24 PM

      no, its at 9, the one at 8 is an old episode

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        avitrek RE: shoelace Sep 15, 2013 05:32 PM

        According to my cable guide, 8pm is new. At 9pm I see Crimes of the Century.

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          EmpireState RE: avitrek Sep 15, 2013 05:36 PM

          My cable guide says that too, but if you look at CNN schedule online, it confirms what shoelace says. We shall see..

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            shoelace RE: EmpireState Sep 15, 2013 05:39 PM

            if youre in ny, the old episode from eason 1 is on 100 or regular cnn, the new episode is on 105 or cnn IN

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              susiejane RE: shoelace Sep 15, 2013 05:56 PM

              You must have a different cable provider than some of us . I do not have CNN IN , and my channel for CNN is not 100. Will try at 9.

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          Worldwide Diner RE: shoelace Sep 17, 2013 05:41 PM

          I recorded a shitty recap episode.

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            mcf RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 18, 2013 07:25 AM

            Me, too, POed.

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              elmom RE: mcf Sep 20, 2013 12:02 PM

              you can watch the whole episode online:


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              scubadoo97 RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 20, 2013 12:15 PM

              I watched part of that recap episode wondering WTF?

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          Maven123 RE: shoelace Sep 15, 2013 07:57 PM

          I live in Manhattan and use Fios. I was disappointed because the schedule indicated the new episode on Jerusalem at 8:00 PM. Instead there was a repeat on Myanmar. Does anyone know if the new episode is going to be shown later this week?

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            iris RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 06:33 AM

            Was anyone on TimeWarner successful in seeing it? I searched via my Tivo and haven't been able to find the episode. It was heavily promoted. Disappointed... and wondering why?

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              avitrek RE: iris Sep 16, 2013 07:06 AM

              The schedule was wrong. I listened to shoelace and recorded CNN at 9pm even though the guide was showing a different program. I haven't watched the full episode yet, but I confirmed at the start that the 9pm show was the new episode.

            2. pitagirl RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 06:57 AM

              I watched it. It was very political and seemed to be very pro Palestinian. Was not about the food at all.

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                shoelace RE: pitagirl Sep 16, 2013 07:49 AM

                i agree

                i found it to be really political

                theres always some politics in these shows, but this seemed really excessively one sided

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                  EmpireState RE: pitagirl Sep 16, 2013 08:02 AM

                  +1 Had I known, I wouldn't have bothered watching it. Really disappointing.

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                    shoelace RE: EmpireState Sep 16, 2013 08:07 AM

                    there are also certain places you have to go in israel- to be in jerusalem and not go to the machane yehuda- specially bc its the type of place he would have gone in any other country- means that the show was approached with an agenda, and that agenda wasnt food

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                      davidg1 RE: shoelace Jan 28, 2014 03:04 PM

                      I was shocked too that he didn't go to the machane yehuda, which IMHO is one of the best markets in the world.

                      But I doubt there was any political agenda. I'd rather he focused on food rather than Israeli West Bank settlers and Palestinian women racing cars. But then I just watched his show about Kurdistan and I'd say that maybe 10% of the show was about food. Seriously. It's too bad.

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                        Leonardo RE: davidg1 Jan 28, 2014 06:56 PM

                        Agree. To travel to Jerusalem and not cover the machaneh yehudah (Jewish Market) is proof positive he didn't go there to do a show about food. That would be like coming my to my home Portland OR and not cover our Portland Farmers Mkt, which is a must-do destination for anyone who cares about food. Oh wait. He did that also.

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                    karenfinan RE: pitagirl Sep 17, 2013 08:30 PM

                    I was impressed by how even handed it was. Much more than I expected. I enjoyed seeing the guy who wrote the cookbook "Jerusalem" I would butcher his name. I guess the lens you look through determines if you think it was one sided.

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                    chazzer RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 07:06 AM

                    For those who missed it


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                      lemarais RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 09:03 AM

                      Yeah, the cable schedule was all messed up. Managed to record it at midnight, even though the schedule said "Crimes of the Century". CNN must have sent out the wrong schedule. CNN does not have the rebroadcast times on their website, either. Will watch it soon.

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                        river3950 RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 09:10 AM

                        don't bother watching it

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                          lemarais RE: river3950 Sep 16, 2013 09:15 AM

                          Of course I will watch it! Isn't Bourdain part Jewish anyway?

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                            ferret RE: lemarais Sep 16, 2013 10:20 AM

                            Not sure which part. Depending on who's with him he generally has some Jewish crew members.

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                              chazzer RE: ferret Sep 16, 2013 10:29 AM

                              His mother is Jewish, he laid Tefillon at the Kotel.

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                              karenfinan RE: lemarais Sep 17, 2013 08:31 PM

                              Yes he is, and talks about his Jewish heritage

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                            ChiliDude RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 10:40 AM

                            Have you or any of the respondents read his book entitled Kitchen Confidential? If not, do so because it is very entertaining.

                            BTW, Happy New Year 5774

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                              cheesecake17 RE: ChiliDude Sep 16, 2013 04:03 PM

                              I've read the book. Very entertaining indeed!
                              Haven't seen the show though

                            2. linguafood RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 04:47 PM

                              One of his best shows so far. Very informative, balanced (though, as he said in the intro, *many* folks will agree.... and do, right here on this thread!!!), and lovely food.

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                                queenscook RE: linguafood Sep 16, 2013 05:09 PM

                                Agree or disagree?

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                                  bagelman01 RE: queenscook Sep 16, 2013 05:40 PM

                                  I enjoyed the show. I didn't agree with the political viewpoints expressed by many who were interviewed. I would have like to see more cooling/food and less politics.
                                  Would I go out of my way to either visit some of these places and eat there or make the dishes shown? NO

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                                    shoelace RE: bagelman01 Sep 16, 2013 08:10 PM

                                    ditto AND

                                    i knew there were going to be people i disagreed with, but i thought there would be more of a presentation of both sides

                                    i also didnt really feel like he showed what israeli food was about

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                                      JungMann RE: bagelman01 Sep 17, 2013 08:16 AM

                                      <<I would have like to see more coo[k]ing/food and less politics.>>

                                      Basically you want them to bring back "No Reservations." I saw a few episodes of "Parts Unknown" over the weekend. I thought it would be a food show, but it turned out to be a culture, travel and social commentary show with some reference to the host eating now and again. I think I actually learned more about cars and how Koreans punish their kids than what's good to eat in the LA episode.

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                                      linguafood RE: queenscook Sep 17, 2013 08:56 AM

                                      Sorry, I meant disagree.

                                  2. ipsedixit RE: shoelace Sep 16, 2013 08:13 PM

                                    I think this new show is rather boring.

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                                      chai18 RE: shoelace Sep 17, 2013 08:33 AM

                                      he basically only went to the west bank or gaza didnt even mention any where else kind of a let down who needs another show on the political situation

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                                        almond tree RE: chai18 Sep 17, 2013 10:47 AM

                                        Wonder why it was dubbed "AB in Jerusalem"?

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                                          chazzer RE: chai18 Sep 17, 2013 11:44 AM

                                          I also find it interesting that he did not talk to any Israeli of middle eastern heritage. Thus adding to the stereotype that they all came from places like Poland.

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                                            bagelman01 RE: chazzer Sep 17, 2013 12:54 PM

                                            I'm not defending Bourdain. But he certainly interview Israelis who immigrated from the US, which certainlky contradicts your supposed stereotype that 'they all camne from places like Poland.'
                                            As this is CHOWHOUND, it is NOT a place for political discussion. I really don't know why the moderators have allowed this to continue, or haven't moved it to the FOOD MEDIA board.
                                            iscussion about the food and places to eat depicted are really what the focus of our discussion should be.

                                            I certainly agreed with the Israeli who would never accept felafel balls that were already frid and sitting as opposed to straight out of the oil.

                                            I also was intrigued by the roasted watermelon dish made in Gaza.

                                            My first trips to Israel were in the 50s when food was still rationed. We brought food to supplement our Israeli relatives' diet. In the 60s and 70s we brought 'luxury' comestibles such as Taster's Choice Instant Coffee and Dewar's Black Label. By the 80s we purchased food items in Israel to bring home with us.
                                            From a culinary wasteland to a cilinary destination, must has changed in 65 years.

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                                              chazzer RE: bagelman01 Sep 17, 2013 02:20 PM

                                              Last time I checked the US is not in the middle east.

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                                                bagelman01 RE: chazzer Sep 17, 2013 04:37 PM

                                                neither is it in Poland......................so much for ALL

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                                                  chazzer RE: bagelman01 Sep 18, 2013 05:48 AM

                                                  Sorry, I picked Poland because that was the comment Helen Thomas made about where Israelis should go back to. The point that I was making is that he did not introduce or acknowledge that you do have many Jewish Israelis with a middle eastern heritage. Thus leading to comments that Israeli food was appropriated, mislabeled and stolen from Arabs.

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                                                karenfinan RE: bagelman01 Sep 17, 2013 08:36 PM

                                                That Israeli is actually a Palestinian cookbook writer and resident of London- he wrote Jerusalem, and several other cookbooks very popular on the home cooking board. He talked about "Israeli" food really being Middle Eastern, Arabic food, that had been appropriated and mislabeled as "Israeli" food.

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                                                  rockycat RE: karenfinan Sep 18, 2013 04:59 AM

                                                  You're confusing the TWO authors of the book, "Jerusalem." Yotam Ottolenghi is most certainly not Palestinian. Sammi Tamimi is.

                                                  And why the words "appropriated" and "mislabeled?" Are their any countries which lie in geographic crossroads whose cuisines are not a melange of the region's cuisines? Doesn't so-called American food borrow from many other cuisines and make it its own? Yet I don't see American food being referred to as effectively "stolen."

                                                  Given that Israel is at the crossroads of Europe, Asia, and Africa and that its residents come from many different places, including Arab nations (yes, many Jews did live for centuries in Syria, Yemen, Morocco, etc.) it stands to reason the Israeli food would incorporate elements of all of those. To state otherwise is to conflate culinary evolution with a political agenda.

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                                                    davidg1 RE: karenfinan Jan 28, 2014 06:39 PM

                                                    1. You are confusing 2 people.
                                                    2. He most definitely did not say that. You clearly did not pay attention to the show and neither have you read what Ottolenghi writes. You are confusing your own ignorance with his opinions.

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                                              lemarais RE: shoelace Sep 18, 2013 06:40 AM

                                              I also agree that this was one of Bourdain's best shows. We got to see places where other shows never go. We saw up close the problems that both sides face.

                                              It was an honest show, and showed both sides. It was a really really good show.

                                              I don't know what some here didn't like about it-- do they just want to be force-fed one-sided propaganda?

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                                                Worldwide Diner RE: lemarais Sep 18, 2013 07:04 AM

                                                How about no progaganda at all and stick to good food?

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                                                  lemarais RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 18, 2013 07:22 AM

                                                  It's NOT a food show. The "propaganda" was in the interviews. If you want a mindless food show, try Diners, Driveins and Dives.

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                                                    Worldwide Diner RE: lemarais Sep 18, 2013 08:10 AM

                                                    That's pretty insulting. Why can't I want an interesting food show? Why makes you think I want a mindless food show? What makes you so superior?

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                                                    mcf RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 18, 2013 07:30 AM

                                                    He never said it was a food show, just that food is always a big part of his stories. It's a cultural exploration travel journal on video, hence not a foodnetwork, but a travelchannel, CNN show.

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