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Master Chef finale 9/11 **Spoiler Alert**

Worldwide Diner Sep 11, 2013 06:49 PM

Why do they say searing duck liver is hard? Is foie gras still banned in CA?

The troll needs to keep her big fat mouth shut.

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  1. LindaWhit RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 11, 2013 07:23 PM

    (Maybe you should change your subject line to add Spoilers to the title, WwD?)

    Agree about the troll. But you have to LOVE Natasha's response to her: "Yeah? Well, I'm down here in Thunderdome. And you're not." ;-)

    And I really thought Natasha's dishes were more refined-looking than Luca's dishes. I think that the foie gras and then the braised short ribs were two heavy dishes in a row, as one of the judges noted. I'd personally rather have had Natasha's dishes, as I'm not a fan of liver.

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    1. re: LindaWhit
      madeliner RE: LindaWhit Sep 11, 2013 10:14 PM

      I won't post because it would still be a spoiler as far as I can tell because I don't know who the "troll" is

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        LindaWhit RE: madeliner Sep 12, 2013 04:06 AM

        "Spoiler" didn't have to do with the troll...it was about who the winner was.

        The troll is Krissie who can rarely say anything nice about anyone other than herself. That's who Natasha was responding to in my comment.

      2. re: LindaWhit
        Worldwide Diner RE: LindaWhit Sep 12, 2013 05:58 AM

        I think they made Luca's dishes sound harder to make. I personally thought all the dishes looked good but Natasha's dishs showed more creativity and finesse. I'm especially impressed with the perfectly cooked monkfish. As I like spicy food, that curry and rice sounded wonderful. Luca's dishes are pretty mundane in the sense that you see similar dishes in many restaurants. I do have to say, while I'm not a dessert person, I thought Luca's basil panna cotta seems very intriguing. Tomato, mozzerella and basil salad as a dessert....

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          Boudleaux RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 12, 2013 08:25 AM

          I agree. I wonder if Luca's dessert is what won it for him?

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            Worldwide Diner RE: Boudleaux Sep 12, 2013 09:54 AM

            I thnk Luca's personality won it for him.

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              melpy RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 13, 2013 03:45 AM

              I agree. I think they saw him as more marketable. Originally it seemed they had hitched their wagon to Jessie but turned around perhaps needing a male winner and started started to promote LUca. Not disappointing so much as frustrating.

              1. re: melpy
                chowser RE: melpy Sep 13, 2013 04:19 AM

                I think it's the reverse. They see who wins and then they go back and edit the show to make that person seem most likeable. Then, they go back to edit the villain, etc. They have thousands of hours of footage. It's easy to present whatever view they want.

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                  dbrodbeck RE: chowser Sep 13, 2013 04:21 AM

                  Yes that seems much more likely, the idea that they find out who wins first etc. Good thinking.

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                    Worldwide Diner RE: chowser Sep 13, 2013 06:09 AM

                    You can't edit a troll into a princess. A troll can only turn into a princess in cartoons. Okay, you could be right but we'll never know.

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                      chowser RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 13, 2013 06:36 AM

                      You can make anyone look good, if you record thousands of hours or footage. You can't, however, do the reverse. You can't edit in swearing, cheating, etc. But, as one TC contestant said, he was seen calling (was it Marcel?) an asshole. What they left out was his saying. "But we're all assholes." Cut and paste.

            2. re: Worldwide Diner
              chefhound RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 12, 2013 09:52 AM

              I agree.

              Natasha's dishes were more interesting. Luca's dishes were pretty standard fare. Don't get me wrong - I love foie gras (though I thought it was weird they kept calling it duck liver) and short ribs, but they were just boring. There were no surprises. Just regular restaurant fare. The dessert was interesting though.

              I don't usually care for monkfish but I liked the way Natasha prepared it. I would eat that. And the combination of seaweed salad and couscous sounded weird but the judges loved it.

              I had a suspicion that Luca would win when they flew in his father and sister from Italy.

              1. re: chefhound
                mcf RE: chefhound Sep 12, 2013 09:57 AM

                I thought Luca would win when I saw Joe's face when they arrived.

                It was a very close finale, but Natasha had a much better season.

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                  Worldwide Diner RE: chefhound Sep 13, 2013 06:11 AM

                  I'm guessing it's because foie gras is banned in CA.

              2. re: LindaWhit
                John E. RE: LindaWhit Sep 15, 2013 07:51 PM

                If the vote was simply who won the best of three dishes, I too would prefer Natasha's although I would like to try Luca's shortribs over the monkfish with curry.

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                  C. Hamster RE: John E. Sep 16, 2013 04:37 PM

                  I like your Red Owl.

                  I rode the horse ride for a penny at their store back in the 60s

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                    John E. RE: C. Hamster Sep 16, 2013 04:58 PM

                    I remember my oldest brother dropping a 2# jar of peanut butter on the floor of our Red Owl store. At least it did not run all over the place.

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                      C. Hamster RE: John E. Sep 16, 2013 05:11 PM

                      Where was your store?

                      My brother (2) was in the seat of the cart and pulled a bottle of "pop" off the shelf and pried the top off with his tiny little teeth.

                      1. re: C. Hamster
                        John E. RE: C. Hamster Sep 16, 2013 05:40 PM

                        It was a small town in rural Minnesota. Thinking back, it's amazing how small grocery stores were back in the day.

              3. chris2269 RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 11, 2013 11:01 PM

                Foie is still banned in Ca. but a lot of Chefs are using it as a Amuse Bouche...because tech. they are not selling it. As far as this show who the cares who wins? It is such a bastardization of MC. Also who the F watches TV shows or buys books for recipes...in 10 seconds you can go on to you tube or Google ...pick a chef, any chef and get a recipe for any dish. 3 star Chefs at that... Heston, Keller, Batali. Yet people still cry how there are no good cooking shows..there are they are just are not on TV.

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                  pley RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 11, 2013 11:16 PM

                  Little Joe got his little wish: an Italian winner. Whatever. This was the worst season yet. I didn't believe anything, as there wasn't even an illusion of believability.

                  1. chowser RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 12, 2013 05:34 AM

                    Ugh, I had a blip w/ my dvr and it only recorded the last 15 minutes. Is it worth trying to find the rest of the show?

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                    1. re: chowser
                      mcf RE: chowser Sep 12, 2013 06:11 AM

                      I think Natasha's monk fish prep and Luca's dessert are worth ff'ing to.

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                        chowser RE: mcf Sep 12, 2013 09:23 AM

                        Thanks--I'll look for it. I did see Luca's dessert which I thought was incredibly creative. I did roll my eyes at Joe's comment that it needed to be layered. Seriously, I've had so many meals where the components were separate and it works fine--even better because it's easier to control ratio of each.

                        1. re: chowser
                          Bkeats RE: chowser Sep 12, 2013 09:40 AM

                          Joe was more enjoyable when he was just the happy fat guy on his mother's show.

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                            mcf RE: chowser Sep 12, 2013 09:43 AM

                            I did the same eye roll. I thought the beauty of the red tomato jam on top, and having the visual of all the savory components and the contrast was key.

                            The monkfish prep was notable for the caul fat wrap. I do think that Natasha was the most consistently daring, creative and accomplished during the season. I think Luca came on strong at the end.

                            1. re: chowser
                              girloftheworld RE: chowser Sep 12, 2013 06:42 PM

                              "I did roll my eyes at Joe's comment that it needed to be layered."

                              I did too. I thought. If he did that then Joe would have said " The way you have it layered it reminds me of one of those awful mexican dips at a football party"

                              1. re: girloftheworld
                                chowser RE: girloftheworld Sep 13, 2013 04:21 AM

                                That's what I was thinking, too. The idea is ridiculous. You want mostly panna cotta w/ small amounts of the other two. If you layered it, most likely you won't get much of the tomato jam unless you scrape the bottom of the bowl and who does that on each bite?

                              2. re: chowser
                                DGresh RE: chowser Sep 13, 2013 11:43 AM

                                I agree about the presentation of the basil dessert; and how exactly is he going to do that layering (technically). I guess he'd have to make some napoleon type thing.

                                1. re: DGresh
                                  C. Hamster RE: DGresh Sep 13, 2013 12:23 PM

                                  Trifles are so 1980.

                                  Plus he'd have to plate it in a clear bowl.

                                  Joe just had to come up with something bad about it.

                                  1. re: C. Hamster
                                    chowser RE: C. Hamster Sep 13, 2013 01:19 PM

                                    Not only did Joe have to come up with something bad. He had to feel that he contributed something meaningful but doesn't have the knowledge.

                          2. Firegoat RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 12, 2013 11:18 AM

                            Wasn't sure I wanted to chime in on this post because it bothers me we're still calling a previously eliminated contestant names even if she does have a nasty attitude (on the show at least).

                            I thought Natasha's appetizer was weak. Seared scallops, while one of my favorite things to eat, just aren't that impressive. I think this is the second time we've seen caul fat this season. Can't recall who used it the first time, Jessie or Luca maybe.

                            I'm probably biased because I'm not a huge fish eater, but Natasha's main didn't interest me. Meanwhile, I love short ribs, but not sure if I would have gone that direction in a competition like this. Finally, I thought that Luca's dessert looked a lot like Graham's panna cota dessert that James had to replicate in a prior challenge.

                            Finally, the most distracting thing of the whole night was watching Natasha's hair go up in a pony tail then back out again in every other shot angle. Just leave it the heck up.

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                            1. re: Firegoat
                              DGresh RE: Firegoat Sep 13, 2013 11:45 AM

                              Yeah, the scallops reminded me of "this is Top Chef, not Top Scallop". TOO MANY SCALLOPS HAVE DIED.

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                                mcf RE: DGresh Sep 13, 2013 01:32 PM

                                But there was so much more on the dish that all worked together really well, they said. I think duck liver before short ribs would make me gag, though I love both.

                                1. re: DGresh
                                  SusieQQ RE: DGresh Sep 13, 2013 01:52 PM

                                  And then followed by another seafood dish...not in my book!

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                                    Worldwide Diner RE: SusieQQ Sep 13, 2013 03:19 PM

                                    I would throw away your book.

                                    1. re: Worldwide Diner
                                      DGresh RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 13, 2013 03:36 PM

                                      Yeah, I don't care about that either. I often order seafood in restaurants, and don't pay much attention if I order both in appetizer and entree.

                                    2. re: SusieQQ
                                      mcf RE: SusieQQ Sep 13, 2013 04:22 PM

                                      Wow, so no seafood restaurants for you, huh, no chowder followed by lobster or anything?

                                2. C. Hamster RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 12, 2013 03:02 PM

                                  I was super happy that Luca won!

                                  1. sockii RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 12, 2013 04:32 PM

                                    Disappointing season overall, but glad Luca won - although I have a strong feeling that was pretty much scripted to be the outcome from the very beginning.

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                                      SusieQQ RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 13, 2013 04:48 AM

                                      One big problem I had with Natasha's menu was serving seafood as an appetizer and as an entrée...a big no no in my mind....also, scallops, no matter how well prepared just don't impress me. Lucca's menu was varied, although heavy, and more interesting. IMHO.

                                      1. breadchick RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 13, 2013 04:09 PM

                                        Funny, I thought of that too - and Hell's Kitchen. "Those scallops are RAWWWW!"

                                        I can't get enough Fabio-isms. "Are we sleeping in these bunky beds?"

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                                          madeliner RE: Worldwide Diner Sep 13, 2013 06:23 PM

                                          Next up the new sitcom :

                                          "I Love Luca"

                                          you know you would watch! - I sure would :)

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                                          1. re: madeliner
                                            C. Hamster RE: madeliner Sep 13, 2013 07:37 PM


                                            I would watch ..,

                                            1. re: C. Hamster
                                              LindaWhit RE: C. Hamster Sep 14, 2013 05:41 AM

                                              I'm afraid he'd turn into a caricature, as Fabio has done.

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