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The Casualization of Dining

How about it? Anyone wanna respond to Troy? This is a road we've all been down before on this board...too many times ;-)

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  1. Well, I haven't been down this road before, but 15 years ago observed folks leaving church after Mass on a Saturday evening wearing tank tops and shorts. Don't think there are many standards left standing.

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      1. re: pikawicca

        I think "The Church" just wants people there. Was this in San Diego?

        1. re: c oliver

          Yep. Still have yet to see such casual attire on church-goers here in the Midwest.

          1. re: pikawicca

            Tell me, I have friends in OK that get decked out in suits with ties, dresses etc in the humid summer. Those days are gone for me!

            EDIT... OOPS sorry, I thought this was in the Not About Food Board.

            1. re: treb

              Me too, above. Since everyone is jumping in regardless, my comment was something about how we drove by the local high school the other day. My husband could not believe his eyes at how the kids were dressed, especially the girls. Things have surely changed since we went to high school. It's a brave new world.

              1. re: coll

                HA! We had a dress code when I was in high school. Girls couldn't wear pants, boys couldn't have hair touching their collars...and this WAS a public school, part of San Diego City Schools

      2. Hmm...responses from people not in SD. Troy must have hit a nerve ;-)

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        1. re: DiningDiva

          I just think it speaks worldwide, not just SD.

          1. re: DiningDiva

            I found it to be a more in general over the country feel. I mean, how much more laid back can we get here in SD? The Kings Clothes?

            1. re: cstr

              Don't they do that in San Francisco?

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            1. I went to Market for a birthday dinner wearing actual pants and shoes and a decent shirt. I hadn't been there in a couple of years and was worried I would be one of the few without a sports coat..not because I consider it "formal dining" but because of the locale. My girlfriend reminded me there would likely be a lot of people wearing jeans, so not to worry. She was 100% correct. I think I only saw 2-3 sportcoats.

              I for one applaud the move away from needing formal dining just to get great meals. Save it for weddings and actual formal occasions. I don't want to be my grandparents!

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              1. re: MrKrispy

                I typically wear what would be called "resort casual" at nice places in SD. Nice silk Hawiian shirt and slacks or nice shorts, no cargos.The spouse is always well dressed. I just find that we do treated a bit better at those places than the tank top and baggy cargo short crowd.

                1. re: littlestevie

                  yeah, fwiw I would never wear a tank top to a restaurant unless it has the beach for a floor. But that's me. Tank tops are trendy again, so who knows.

                2. re: MrKrispy

                  I think you said it best, McK.

                  This so-called "causualization" thing is really no more than a move away from the need to be as "formally" dressed when dining as was the case 30 years ago. The details depend on the type and location of the restaurant and time of day, as has always been the case. But the trend is away from the formerly formal.

                  Look at any photo at the turn of the (last) century. Even poor men wore sportcoats most of the time -- and not just in restaurants and bars. Women at that time seem to have almost always worn cumbersome and, what look to me to be, very uncomfortable dresses. (They were the first to become less formal, but not until the 20s.)

                  Times and social mores change slowly, but they do change. Thank goodness.

                  BTW, I don't want to be like my grandparents either, at least not in manner of dress. But then, they were born in the 1800s...

                3. IMHO, Mille Fleurs has it right. Nice jeans are okay, but no beach or sports attire.

                  Unless buffalo wings is your idea of fine dining, leave the hockey jersey and flip flops at home.