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Scott_R Sep 11, 2013 09:35 AM

Will be going out to Westhampton Beach this Saturday and want to stop in the morning for breakfast out that way--ie., west of the Shinnecock Canal (and east of Islip). I want to stay south-ish, else I'd go to Cookroom.

The usual breakfast rules apply. :)
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/707694

The only place I know of is the Eastport luncheonette; however, though I haven't seen a menu, it doesn't sound particularly unusual--mostly standard diner-fare, and I very much prefer something more interesting.

Any details about Orlando's Cafe? I can't find a menu.

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    Scott_R Sep 14, 2013 09:43 AM

    Well, I decided on Orlando's. Arrived around 8:20 and... they were closed. Sign on the door said they didn't open until 9. Argh! Mea culpa, I suppose; I hadn't thought they'd open so late. I wasn't going to wait for almost 40 minutes, so I looked to go elsewhere.

    The only place I could think of that wasn't another half-hour drive was The Hampton Maid, so that's where I went.

    I posted my experience on the "Having breakfast on Long Island" thread,
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7076...
    so let's just say that the Orlando's story is the only one worth telling.

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      Motosport Sep 15, 2013 06:28 AM

      It is odd that they open so late on a Saturday. What did their web site say the opening time was?

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        Scott_R Sep 15, 2013 11:13 AM

        Ah, but remember the problem? No web site. :)

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          Motosport Sep 16, 2013 06:22 AM

          Orlando's must not think it's a problem. The place is packed each and every morning

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            Scott_R Sep 16, 2013 07:42 AM

            And yet two other people went there about the same time I did, peering into the window and wondering why they weren't open. Orlando's might not care about it, but obviously other (potential) customers consider it a problem.

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              Motosport Sep 16, 2013 07:49 AM

              As Yogi said: "No one goes there anymore, they are too busy."

    2. Fred19 Sep 12, 2013 04:13 PM

      I like the Hampton Bays Diner. It is a few blocks from Sunrise Highway and is on the intersection of Rt 24 and Route 27A, Montauk Highway.

      All I can say it is a diner and I have had good breakfasts there.

      Hampton Baysmore
      157 West Montauk Highway
      Hampton Bays, NY 11946
      (631) 728-0840

      hamptonbaysdiner.com‎

      ~Fred19

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        coll Sep 13, 2013 06:42 AM

        Oh I love HB Diner too; don't forget to check out their South American list for something different. They make the BEST egg creams too. Too bad Pancake Cottage is gone, they weren't too shabby either, I miss them.

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          Motosport Sep 13, 2013 06:53 AM

          And Pancake Cottage misses you too!! They were the next best thing to IHOP!!

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            coll Sep 13, 2013 08:55 AM

            No they were a real family owned place, I did like them a lot. One of the former owners is at Maureens now.

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        kennycandy Sep 12, 2013 04:44 AM

        How about Eckarts Luncheonette right in Westhampton Beach - good food, interesting shop with a display of old newspapers, magazines, etc

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          coll Sep 12, 2013 04:58 AM

          Oh yeah, Eckarts is great fun, but might be too old fashioned for what Scott R is seeking. Real old timey.

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            Motosport Sep 12, 2013 06:54 AM

            Eckarts is excellent but the OP will consider the menu run of the mill. They may not even have an on line menu which he insists upon.

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              coll Sep 12, 2013 07:27 AM

              Oh yeah, I forgot about the on line menu requirement, for some reason. Maybe we should go and take a picture of it ;-)

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                Scott_R Sep 12, 2013 11:10 AM

                An online menu isn't a requirement; it's simply the most expedient way of seeing if the trip is worth it.

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                  coll Sep 12, 2013 01:58 PM

                  True, since menus can change at a drop of the hat, while websites seldom do.

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                    Scott_R Sep 12, 2013 02:34 PM

                    I'm not sure what you mean.

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                      Motosport Sep 12, 2013 02:49 PM

                      Every new restaurant is a new adventure!! That's what I say!!

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                        Scott_R Sep 12, 2013 03:19 PM

                        I wish. There are too many places where it looks like they share photocopies of the same menu.

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                          coll Sep 12, 2013 03:26 PM

                          Especially in the Hamptons, there are only 10 real chefs overall and they all hop from place to place like musical chairs (just kidding! sort of)

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                            Motosport Sep 13, 2013 06:25 AM

                            If only there was a big book of menus!! That might be better than actually experiencing a meal at a new restaurant!!
                            Take a leap of faith and follow some of the great suggestions here.
                            I would have never experienced the cinnamon bun pancakes at Country Cottage if my only guide was an on line menu. Amazing!! Call ahead and see if they are on the special list.

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                              coll Sep 13, 2013 06:44 AM

                              A big book of menus, with scratch and sniff next to each item. Genius!

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                                Scott_R Sep 13, 2013 07:11 AM

                                Again, though, I don't like sweets, at least not for a meal. Pancakes of any sort don't work for me; a cinnamon bun pancake... ugh.

                                It's not the location that matters, it's the meal. A mediocre meal at a new place is still a mediocre meal.

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                                  Motosport Sep 13, 2013 07:40 AM

                                  My motto: "It's either a good time or a good story!"
                                  Every day is an adventure. I do my best to get out, experience and explore.

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                                    Scott_R Sep 13, 2013 10:03 AM

                                    Except when both are forgettable. Going out to a place, looking at the menu, and thinking "well, this was a waste of time and opportunity" is neither a good time or a good story. And having a mediocre meal is a waste of money and calories. I've been posting on that Breakfast on LI thread for three and a half years now; I don't think there ought to be a question that I try new places.

                                    There's way more mediocrity out there than greatness, and I've wasted too much time at the former to not try to make an effort to avoid doing so again and again. I don't get out to the Hamptons that often these days, and I was hoping to find a place that isn't basically the same diner I'd avoid within a 10 minute drive of my home.

                                    This is why I ask for both menus and recommendations: menus tell me if the options are interesting, and recommendations tell me if their execution is well-done.

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                                      Motosport Sep 13, 2013 10:08 AM

                                      That would go under the heading of "good story." Sometimes the worst meal/service can be quite entertaining,

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                                        Scott_R Sep 13, 2013 10:18 AM

                                        Except that, as I'd mentioned, the stories are merely mediocre. Annoying at the time, then forgettable.

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                                    Motosport Sep 14, 2013 09:27 AM

                                    You miss my point completely. It was not about my enjoying the cinnamon bun pancake. The point was that specials (and you keep saying you are looking for something "special") are not going to be on a web site menu.
                                    We recently had an amazing, awe inspiring breakfast at Mickie's Dairy Bar in Madison WI. They don't even have a web site no less a menu on line. The best ever home fries I have had in all of my many years.

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                emarcus Sep 11, 2013 07:11 PM

                Eastport Luncheonette has some of the best pancakes I've ever eaten. If they're doing peach pancakes so much the better. Ask for the real maple syrup.

                Don't overeat at breakfast or you won't have room for the clam pizza at Brunetti in WHB for lunch.

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                  Scott_R Sep 11, 2013 08:00 PM

                  Not a pancake fan, nor of clam pizza.

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                    Motosport Sep 12, 2013 06:52 AM

                    Eastport Luncheonette does have fabulous pancakes. I get the fresh fruit pancakes with whatever is in season.

                    Brunetti, UGH! We gave them a couple of tries and could not get past the soggy crust. We much prefer Grana on the North Fork for thin crust pizza.

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                      Gastronomos Sep 12, 2013 09:00 AM

                      Is Brunetti better than Michaelangelo or just different because of the clams? (Michaelangelo isn't my fave, but I have stopped there to grab a quick bite...)

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                        Motosport Sep 12, 2013 09:15 AM

                        Brunetti is trying to emulate the thin crust pizzas of Manhattan (Motorino, Keste) but they can't seem to get the crust right. Great ingredients but way too soggy.
                        Does Michaelangelo have thin crust pizza. I've been to a few of their restaurants and had great meals but never had their pizza.

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                          coll Sep 12, 2013 09:22 AM

                          I've been to Michaelangelo, I like their pizza but it's more old fashioned NY style.

                    2. coll Sep 11, 2013 05:29 PM

                      Jimmys Diner in Mastic is nice too, but if you don't like the look of Country Cottage it might not ring your bell either. Maybe you should venture into Southampton? Golden Pear, I don't know? That's what's popular out here anyway. You might be searching for something that doesn't exist, especially this time of year.

                      If you're considering Orlando, go across the street to Melrose Deli (next to the movie theatre). They are both Spanish delis, but I think Melrose is far superior if you're looking for home made style cuisine.

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                        Scott_R Sep 11, 2013 07:59 PM

                        Has Golden Pear changed its offerings? I haven't been to one for maybe 15 years. Used to be pretty basic with the menu.

                        Are Melrose and Orlando basically takeout? I was looking for sit-down. One thing that had interested me about Orlando's was this,
                        http://outeastfoodie.com/blog/11112012
                        which made it seem like more than a standard Spanish deli

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                          coll Sep 12, 2013 04:51 AM

                          Both delis have basic tables to sit at. No waiter service or anything though. Melrose is more a working man's deli, featuring Guatamalan comfort food. Orlando's might be more comfortable for you, for a weekend touristy meal.

                          Golden Pear tends to have a couple of unusual offerings, but I'm not big on breakfast out and have just met clients there more than "dined". So I just noticed, didn't actually try. At least this time of year it won't be crowded!

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                          Motosport Sep 12, 2013 06:50 AM

                          If he thinks Hampton Maid is expensive Golden Pear will shock him.

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                            coll Sep 12, 2013 07:27 AM

                            You have to pay for variety, especially in the Hamptons.

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                              Motosport Sep 12, 2013 08:49 AM

                              The last time I went to Hampton Maid I had an amazing eggs Benny. It came with a nice side order of fresh fruit. Great coffee, service and a very nice ambience. Worth every penny.

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                                coll Sep 12, 2013 09:21 AM

                                Very nice family, always a pleasant atmosphere. Hard to go wrong, at least for me.

                        3. Motosport Sep 11, 2013 10:30 AM

                          You won't find a menu for Orlando's. They fly way under the radar. There is a Mexican vibe going on with Huevos Rancheros etc.. We like it but we are easy to please.
                          Hampton Maid does a phenomenal breakfast.
                          We love Eastport Luncheonette. Simple and good.
                          The Country Cottage Diner in Center Moriches is excellent and has a interesting menu. The last time I was there I had cinnamon bun pancakes!!! Amazing.
                          Good luck!!

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                            Scott_R Sep 11, 2013 01:38 PM

                            The menus at Hampton Maid and Country Cottage look like pretty basic, standard fare... except Hampton Maid sure knows how to charge! $9.50 for two eggs, toast, and home fries? Geez!

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                              Motosport Sep 11, 2013 02:00 PM

                              The key word here is HAMPTON$$$$$$
                              Country Cottage always has nice specials on the weekend.
                              If you are looking for good food, lots of it at a great price try the Island Grill Diner on Hospital Rd.

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                                Scott_R Sep 11, 2013 04:44 PM

                                Not looking for a lot of food at a great price, I'm looking for great food. My objection to Hampton Maid wasn't simply the price, but a high price for something pretty ordinary. With the omelets, for example, the offerings are totally pedestrian: not only is it a "you choose" thing, which is a letdown, but the choices are simply mushrooms, peppers, onions, bacon, cheddar cheese (choice of the *one* cheese? really? I don't usually get cheese in my omelets, but if I do, it sure ain't cheddar), and baked ham. Yawn. And standard option is a choice of just one of those things to boot. I don't even see that they mention using local ingredients. Unless I know they can make an incredible basic French omelet (and that's rare to find), the fillings have to be interesting.

                                As I said in the breakfast thread, I don't see the point to going out if I can make it better while half-asleep, with whatever ingredients I have lying about. I don't mind paying if it's worth eating.

                                Actually, I think most restaurant portions are too big. What's the old joke? "The food isn't very good, but they give you a lot." I want half as much but twice as good (and I don't mind paying for it).

                                The other week, I drove up to the Berkshires and stopped to eat breakfast at Another Fork in the Road in Milan, NY. The problem there? There were so many things that sounded *awesome* that it was hard to choose.

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                                  Motosport Sep 12, 2013 06:49 AM

                                  Hampton Maid is unusual and worth the price even if it is one and done. Done judge a book (restaurant) by its on line menu.

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