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Pinocchio (Eastchester) is closed

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Bob P Sep 10, 2013 12:40 PM

Hi all,

Sorry if this has been discussed, I did a search and didn't see anything. I drove by Pinocchio in Eastchester the other day and it is closed. The phone number has been disconnected.

I tried Googling also but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know any details?

Thanks

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    kaaaassss Sep 30, 2013 09:01 AM

    I agree about Valentinos. Old School. I've been going there since the late 80's and the same waiters are still there. Same family owns it. Always feel welcome and the food is plentiful and very good.

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      cloverose Oct 3, 2013 01:42 PM

      I'm not the best person to discuss merits of Valentino's as I've only been one time. It was indeed old school, and even fun, but I was utterly overwhelmed by the amount of garlic inundating every dish -- even those that typically don't contain garlic besides what's in the sauce, such as eggplant parm and seafood fra diavolo. Because I wasn't expecting to encounter it, I didn't think to tell them to tone it down. Anyhow, if you LOVE garlic, you won't be as put off as I was.

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        foodiemom10583 Oct 3, 2013 02:33 PM

        That's one of the reasons why I love it. I've never found the garlic overpowering as they use sliced fresh garlic rather than minced or oil-preserved. That is an important caveat, though. If you're not a fan of garlic, make sure to let the waiter know.

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          chowdom Oct 4, 2013 02:57 AM

          Below are a couple of lines from a review of a meal I had at Valentino's in 2007 ... if you don't feel like reading the entire thread.

          "I was waiting for someone else to say something, I thought it was just me. Last two times we were there the chicken dishes were so salty they were inedible, and a fish dish was prepared with that awful prepared garlic."

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/468204

          I think I've only eaten there a total of 4 or 5 times over a span of several years so I am by no means a Valentino's regular. I had one more meal there, post the review above, I was excessively thirsty for over a day and a half, that pretty much sealed the deal for me and Valentino's.

          There are folks however who have posted consistent positive reviews of Valentino's who's opinions I value and tastes generally concur with my own and that makes me wonder of there is an issue with consistency. When you compare the number of years they have been open to the number of meals I have had there and the consistently positive reviews I suppose my experiences could just be due to a series of off nights.

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            foodiemom10583 Oct 4, 2013 06:19 AM

            I've had incredibly disappointing meals at Blue Hill at Stone Barns, Anissa, and Keens. Still, they continue to get rave reviews. I have to assume that all of these places have off nights.

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        bdr Sep 24, 2013 09:15 AM

        That's too bad. I went there for years. The host/owner was a great guy, super friendly. Loved their pasta dishes, great gnocchi and great pesto sauce. Prices were high but they dropped them a few years back. Not sure where to go for good old-school italian these days.

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          mrsdebdav Sep 24, 2013 02:08 PM

          May I suggest you start an "Old School Italian" post, or troll this board for ideas? You will be inundated with places if you raise the question.
          I'll start:
          http://www.valentinositalianrestaurant.com/
          http://tuttabellatrattoria.com/

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            foodiemom10583 Sep 24, 2013 05:56 PM

            I second Valentino's. It's about as old-school NY Italian as you can get in lower Westchester.

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              bdr Sep 30, 2013 05:26 AM

              Well, let's stipulate for the moment that it IS old school. Is it very good though?

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                JMF Sep 30, 2013 06:51 AM

                I have never had a bad meal at Valentino's. I have been going there since the 80's. Great service and very good old school Italian.

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                  foodiemom10583 Sep 30, 2013 08:57 AM

                  I haven't been going there since the 80s, but I doubt it has changed much. I, too, have never had a bad meal there.

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          paris1976 Sep 10, 2013 01:44 PM

          They closed on NYE 2012.

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            mrsdebdav Sep 10, 2013 04:53 PM

            I went once, years ago, and hated the place. Looks like the NYT felt the same way, not that they are a reliable arbiter of taste:
            http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/nyregion/westchester/28dinewe.html?_r=0

            Building is for sale:
            http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/176717...

            I have no idea, to answer the OP's question, as to the "details," but the resto biz is tough, competitive, and requires extensive biz acumen, aggressive expenditure, deep pockets and a comprehensive awareness of the money side of the business to be profitable. Not much different than other businesses, but the start up and ongoing expenses for a resto are way higher than for other businesses.

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