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Cooking with ketchup

ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 06:31 PM

Do you?

I do.

Sometimes, I make "ketchup fried rice" which of courses uses ketchup. Same with "ketchup chow mein"

I will also add a bit of ketchup to MaPo Tofu for the Capsaicin-challenged.

Then there are the obvious and common things like ketchup cake, meatloaf, shephard's pie, sloppy joes, baked beans, etc.

Of course there's BBQ sauce, as well as sauces in general, dressings, and chili.

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  1. Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 07:07 PM

    A teammate on my college golf team, who shall remain nameless, would order a cup of hot water, no tea bag. No charge. Ketchup, no charge. Saltines, no charge.
    Ketchup soup with crackers, free. Years later, he married well.

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      ipsedixit RE: Veggo Sep 8, 2013 07:15 PM

      Years later, he married well.

      Does his spouse share the same sentiment?

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        Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 07:25 PM

        She would concur that he married well. He still plays golf but eats better.

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          Miri1 RE: Veggo Sep 8, 2013 07:29 PM

          Some of mu friends use ketchup in pasta or on pizza instead of tomato sauce. But my mom always added a glug of ketchup to her vegetale soupp' so I do, too.

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        sunshine842 RE: Veggo Sep 9, 2013 04:02 AM

        we called this "bum soup" when I was a waitress.

        if I go through an entire bottle of ketchup a year, I've had a busy year.

        Don't use it other than on meatloaf, burgers, and hot dogs.

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        darrentran87 RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 07:30 PM

        I use ketchup in place of tomato puree sometimes :$

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          tehmeena RE: darrentran87 Sep 9, 2013 09:03 AM

          yeah haha.. same here you know.. when i am not in a mood to go to market lol

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          Boychucker RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 07:50 PM

          I love ketchup. What's ketchup cake?

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            ipsedixit RE: Boychucker Sep 8, 2013 07:53 PM


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              tcamp RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 05:20 AM

              I know a ketchup lovin' kid who will be getting that for his birthday next month. Me, I don't care for the stuff.

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              tehmeena RE: Boychucker Sep 9, 2013 09:04 AM

              same here didn't know about the ketchup cake before..

            3. perk RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 08:15 PM

              Sometimes....when I'm sure noone will catch me (and I live alone....so I must be really paranoid) I put ketchup on fried eggs like I did when I was a kid. So wrong. And yet....SO good.

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                Ttrockwood RE: perk Sep 8, 2013 10:13 PM

                Eggs without ketchup are just....... Sad.

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                  darrentran87 RE: Ttrockwood Sep 12, 2013 09:12 PM

                  I like ketchup with eggs only when eggs are scrambled. When fried, or prepared elsewhere, I prefer a more subtle condiment so I can taste that yolky goodness :)

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                    rainey RE: Ttrockwood Sep 12, 2013 09:29 PM

                    Nope! Just try salsa once. You'll never go back to ketchup.

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                    ipsedixit RE: perk Sep 9, 2013 07:47 AM

                    I put ketchup on all sorts of egg dishes (scrambled, fried, poached, and even boiled), and feel utterly no shame about it.

                    But, in all fairness, is simply putting ketchup on eggs "cooking" with ketchup?

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                      perk RE: ipsedixit Sep 10, 2013 08:04 PM

                      Oops. You're right. Garnishing with ketchup.....

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                      Violatp RE: perk Sep 12, 2013 09:03 PM

                      I didn't realize until a few months ago (right here on this site) that ketchup on eggs wasn't perfectly normal and common.

                    3. greygarious RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 08:46 PM

                      The sweet&sour meatball recipe I learned is ketchup and cranberry sauce, not the more common grape jelly and cocktail sauce. The original I was given was equal parts but that was too sweet for me even though I add onions to the sauce (as well as in the meatballs) and do have a sweet tooth. I changed it to 1 part cranberry sauce, 1 part ketchup, and 1 part canned plain tomato sauce, plus diced onion.

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                        valerie RE: greygarious Sep 9, 2013 08:34 AM

                        I usually make brisket for Rosh Hashanah but we had just come home from vacation so I ended up making sweet & sour meatballs instead. My version also uses ketchup and cranberry sauce, plus a few other ingredients. Everyone always looks forward to my brisket but the meatballs were a huge hit.

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                        hankstramm RE: ipsedixit Sep 8, 2013 10:46 PM

                        Quite common in Mexican seafood preparations to add Catsup (that's how it's spelled there).

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                          Soul Vole RE: hankstramm Sep 9, 2013 12:57 AM

                          You mean in seafood cocktails? Yes, definitely. You could avoid ketchup but you'd basically be bending over backwards to try to recreate its flavor.

                          In other seafood preparations nothing comes to mind that uses ketchup. Well, apart from some dipping sauces.

                        2. BigSal RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 04:39 AM

                          I never eat ketchup with a burger or fries or much of anything really, but I do like omuraisu, a ketchup fried rice wrapped in an omelette finished with a little more ketchup.

                          Two other Japanese dishes that use ketchup as a key ingredient are ebi chili (it's a Chuka dish- Chinese with a Japanese spin) and Spaghetti Napolitan (Yoshoku dish- western inspired. This dish is ketchup spaghetti).

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                            ipsedixit RE: BigSal Sep 9, 2013 07:48 AM

                            I top my ketchup fried rice with a fried egg. I break the yolk and mix it all around and while it looks like regurgitated vomit, it tastes mighty fine going down.

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                              alliegator RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:02 AM

                              Maybe you'll like this: I often reheat leftover fried rice, put that in an omelet, and top it all off with ketchup.
                              Makes that paltry little handful of fried rice worth saving.

                          2. RealMenJulienne RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:05 AM

                            I use it to start off a lot of tomato-based dishes. After the aromatics have cooked in the hot oil, the ketchup and/or tomato paste go in to brown a bit before adding the rest of the canned or fresh tomatoes. I always start Italian red sauce this way, and also Chinese tomato and egg stir fry.

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                              INDIANRIVERFL RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:06 AM

                              At my table, it has always been referred to as the Malaysian condiment.

                              Great for glazing meats and imparting color to stir fry and noodles.

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                                ML PAVACT RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:14 AM

                                My mom use to make us round steak with ketchup gravy.

                                Brown pieces of round steak. Brown slices of onion. Add ketchup and water. Heat. Add steak back in and heat. Let it simmer to tenderize the steak. One pan cooking with great flavor added by the browned bits in the pan.

                                Serve with mashed potatoews and corn. As kids we would put the corn and gravy on/in the potatoes. Comfort food, very yummy.

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                                  thimes RE: ML PAVACT Sep 9, 2013 09:40 AM

                                  We had "beef in beer" growing up, which was similar.

                                  Stew meat
                                  lots of onion
                                  brown sugar

                                  mix it all together and cook in the oven for 3-4 hours. Served over buttered egg noodles.
                                  We loved it, I'll still make it now again in the winter.

                                2. pinehurst RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:18 AM

                                  I find the sweetness of it cuts the heat of a cup of too-hot (as in too spicy) chilli con carne, in which case I add about a teaspoon per cup, similar to your use in the MaPo Tofu. Sometimes I get too happy with the hot sauce.

                                  1. lilham RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:52 AM

                                    My chinese sweet and sour sauce uses ketchup. Not sure if it's authentic, but it tastes damn nice to me.

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                                      treb RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:53 AM

                                      I prefer to call it Sauce American!

                                      1. BobB RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 08:53 AM

                                        I do a sweet and sour braised brisket (just made it last week for Rosh Hashanah) following a recipe that calls for ketchup, but instead of the run-of-the-mill stuff I use Melinda's Chipotle ketchup, which adds a nice smokiness and a bit of capsaicin zing to the sauce.

                                        1. tehmeena RE: ipsedixit Sep 9, 2013 09:03 AM

                                          yeah i have cooked ketchup fried rice, i have tried that.. love it! :)

                                          1. foodieX2 RE: ipsedixit Sep 10, 2013 05:26 PM

                                            The only cooking I do with catsup is meatloaf. Though I do admit to using it place of tomato paste in meatballs when discovering I am out.

                                            1. QuirkyCookery RE: ipsedixit Sep 10, 2013 05:35 PM

                                              I used to, but not really any more. My new favorite is playing around with hot sauces instead.

                                              1. iL Divo RE: ipsedixit Sep 10, 2013 08:25 PM

                                                I like to add it & mustard/relish/chopped onion into ground beef-mix then toss on the grill.
                                                use it in sauce/dressings =Russian dressing/cocktail sauce/BBQ/1000 Island/dipping sauce with sour cream et al for French fries

                                                1. alkapal RE: ipsedixit Sep 10, 2013 08:27 PM

                                                  my mom would use a little ketchup when she made her beef hash with leftover roast, onions and potatoes in the cast iron skillet.

                                                  1. EM23 RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2013 11:58 AM

                                                    The only dish that I have made using ketchup as an ingredient is Gobi (Cauliflower) Manchurian. Delicious!

                                                    I have also made the fake Shake Shack sauce from Serious Eats with ketchup, but that’s not cooking, just stirring.

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                                                      ricepad RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2013 12:51 PM

                                                      I grew up in a town that once had three canneries, all of which made ketchup along with other tomato products. While my brother and I were in high school, we had a lot of friends who worked in the canneries during the summer months, and we'd get regaled with stories of 'special additives' to the ketchup vats. My brother hasn't eaten commercially prepared ketchup since he was 15 (he's now in his 50s) because of those stories.

                                                      1. kitchengardengal RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2013 08:32 PM

                                                        Two of my old standby recipes use ketchup; my barbeque sauce from Fanny Farmer (which DH swears is the best barbeque sauce ever, but I already knew that 20 years before I met him), and my sloppy joes from an old Betty Crocker cookbook that I got back in the 70s or 80s.

                                                        1. boogiebaby RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2013 09:43 PM

                                                          I make a few dishes that use ketchup as an ingredient:

                                                          Sweet and Sour Pork
                                                          Mee Goreng (Malaysian/Indian noodles)
                                                          Gobi or Chicken Manchurian (Indo-Chinese)
                                                          Lunchmeat Sambal (I use it to cut the heat from the chilies if its too hot)

                                                          When I was a kid, I liked to eat chicken Biriyani and fried rice with ketchup.

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                                                            cheesemonger RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2013 01:53 PM

                                                            you're an omniscient ipsedixit.

                                                            on top chef masters last night, there was a challenge where the chefs had to make a dish that featured ketchup...

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                                                              ipsedixit RE: cheesemonger Sep 12, 2013 09:01 PM

                                                              Any interesting dishes?

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                                                                cheesemonger RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2013 09:44 AM

                                                                the winning dish was a seared scallop with a ketchup and chinese fermented black bean sauce that was whizzed in a blender. I'll pull it up on demand later today and give you a quick rundown.

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                                                                  cheesemonger RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2013 04:54 PM

                                                                  here's the quick rundown:

                                                                  judges liked these:
                                                                  japanese fried chicken with sweet chili ginger ketchup sauce

                                                                  the seared scallop with the fermented black ketchup sauce

                                                                  buffalo chicken wings with ketchup based hot sauce

                                                                  and hated these:
                                                                  roasted duck breast with ketchup mustard miso sauce

                                                                  "ketchup soup" (looked like veg soup) and something that looked gross.

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                                                                    ipsedixit RE: cheesemonger Sep 13, 2013 07:47 PM

                                                                    Cool. Thanks very much for taking the time.

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                                                                autumm RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2013 09:15 PM

                                                                use it in my spicy grilled shrimp marinade. So much better than the equivalent squirt of tomato paste. And a hot dog isn't a dog without "red dip" as my kiddo calls it

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                                                                  sparky403 RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2013 10:33 PM

                                                                  Asain Ketchup Bbq sauce...

                                                                  The first I learnt to make very good and your friends won't guess you used ketchup.

                                                                  Though, I am having a hard time remembering exactly the original recipe... I do know that ketchup and sesame oil and fresh rosemary is an unexpected match made in heaven....

                                                                  Then again, I am one of those guys that has a few French fries with my ketchup.. (which I often blend with mayo and hot sauce on the plate or in the basket) anyway, try the combo... add some acid as needed, it is good.

                                                                  Asain BBQ sauce with ketchup, sesame oil and rosemary.

                                                                  Ketchup..... 1/2 cup or more to taste.
                                                                  3 - 4 cloves of garlic very finely minced.
                                                                  Fresh Rosemary (2 tablespoons)
                                                                  Soy Sauce..
                                                                  sesame oil 2 table spoons or less to taste. .
                                                                  Rice wine or other vinegar.

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                                                                    alkapal RE: sparky403 Sep 13, 2013 02:51 AM

                                                                    reminds me of the korean spinach salad dressing.

                                                                  2. alkapal RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2013 02:50 AM

                                                                    "korean" spinach salad dressing uses ketchup. i have no idea why it is called "korean" but it is the best spinach salad!

                                                                    Korean Spinach Salad -- use fresh sprouts, for goodness' sake! My tweak: add toasted sesame oil and soy sauce to the dressing.

                                                                    this salad always disappears quickly at gatherings.

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                                                                      foxspirit RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2013 10:02 AM

                                                                      You could combine that rice with omelette like an extra ketchup-y omurice. I bet it'd be tasty!

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                                                                        ipsedixit RE: foxspirit Sep 13, 2013 07:47 PM

                                                                        What makes you think I haven't?


                                                                      2. C. Hamster RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2013 04:55 PM

                                                                        I like to dip potato chips in ketchup!

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                                                                          kitchengardengal RE: C. Hamster Sep 14, 2013 05:02 AM

                                                                          That was our after school snack when I was a kid-potato chips with ketchup. I still think it's good, but most people think it's weird.

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                                                                            sunshine842 RE: kitchengardengal Sep 14, 2013 06:17 AM

                                                                            I've been seeing ketchup-flavored potato chips lately...not for me, but in my mind it's no different than ketchup on fries.

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                                                                            foodieX2 RE: C. Hamster Sep 14, 2013 09:17 AM

                                                                            Me too but add Tabasco or siracha to catsup. They are really good with curry catsup too!

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