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Help finding a "normal" lunch spot for lunch with my parents!

Rick Sep 4, 2013 02:45 PM

When we visit we usually have a normal rotation of restaurants we like to go to: A&J, Bangkok Golden, Karaikudi, China Bistro, Etete, DC Sandwich, Yas Bakery etc. All of these places are either too exotic or too spicy for my parents. Home made red sauce Italian food is my parents comfort zone but mom is very picky about Italian when going out so we want to avoid sit down Italian other than pizza. We're going to be in DC doing museums but will have a car and don't mind up to a 30 min drive. Off the top of my head all I can think of is the Italian Store for some pizza and Ray's Hell Burger. Anything else you can recommend?

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    Just Visiting RE: Rick Sep 4, 2013 03:55 PM

    So what about basic American food? Ray's Hell Burger is closed; Ray's to the Third is open diagonally across the street and has a more extensive menu including a fantastic turkey burger, salmon, and chicken. However, I'd consider going to Ray's the Steaks instead. You don't say where you will be staying but it sounds like you are oriented towards Arlington and there are plenty of good choices up there, especially in the Clarendon area. In Alexandria, Majestic Cafe is probably a place your folks would love.

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      Rick RE: Just Visiting Sep 4, 2013 04:38 PM

      We're staying in Falls Church but will be visiting monuments and museums in the morning so somewhere not too far from DC would be great. THanks for the info on Rays hell burger, had no idea they closed!

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        DanielK RE: Just Visiting Sep 4, 2013 10:08 PM

        Since OP asked for *lunch*, Ray's to the Third is open, but Ray's the Steaks will not be.

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          Just Visiting RE: DanielK Sep 5, 2013 03:40 AM

          Oh, sorry! You are right. I guess I'm not getting the idea of spending the day downtown but schlepping into Virginia for lunch. Unless maybe they are not going back downtown after lunch?

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        Elyssa RE: Rick Sep 4, 2013 04:20 PM

        I think a place like The Hamilton usually pleases all types of people. They have burgers, salads, pasta, entrees, even sushi. Hard to go wrong there.

        1. hill food RE: Rick Sep 4, 2013 07:58 PM

          ehh I'd be tempted to say screw it and go to a Clyde's. they're decent and non-threatening. practically designed for a situation like this.

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            hill food RE: hill food Sep 5, 2013 01:05 AM

            oh OK Old Ebbitt's - part of Clyde's and a nice Orwellian take on a post-Edwardian eatery.

            but seriously my mom is the same way - garlic is exotic, and there is no pasta except for spaghetti (lasagna is a different beast) but she would love the room (and their boring yet well made menu)

            the patio at Poste? has it closed for the season already?

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              tcamp RE: hill food Sep 5, 2013 01:31 PM

              I just took some clients to OEG and they really enjoyed it. The meal was just fine and in a nice setting, fun for tourists, easily accessible from the Mall.

              To the OP I'd say if your parents are like that, just stop trying to push them off the edge of their comfort zone and go with safe American chow.

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                Steve RE: tcamp Sep 5, 2013 01:59 PM

                I had a miserable lunch at OEG. The place was totally packed and noisy. I literally had to fight through the crowd to get to the bathroom. The noise level was horrific. The food was not as good as 'ok.' Maybe some days are better than others, some times of the year better, but it was not worth the hassle.

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                  JonParker RE: Steve Sep 5, 2013 02:16 PM

                  I had a good lunch at Matchbox. It wasn't one of the best I ever had, but it was better than just ok for what it is. I liked it.

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                    Steve RE: JonParker Sep 5, 2013 05:57 PM

                    The mini-burgers at Matchbox are excellent, if ordered medium rare.

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                      Bob W RE: Steve Sep 6, 2013 07:06 AM

                      I would second Steve's mini-burger advice. We recently visited the Mosaic Matchbox and got an order of six mini-burgers. My wife ordered them medium. They had a nice char on the outside and were still pink on the inside -- or at least five of the six were still pink. I could definitely see them getting overdone in a slammed kitchen, so medium rare is the way to go.

                      This was our first-ever visit to a Matchbox and we were pleased. Very nice pizza crust. Good for a family with varying degrees of adventurousness.

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                        JonParker RE: Bob W Sep 6, 2013 11:45 AM

                        Cooking a slider to order is a special skill. Not many people can do it right. It's too small to cook like a normal burger. The ones I had at Matchbox were very good. We also had a pizza that was pretty good.

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                  alkapal RE: tcamp Sep 9, 2013 10:56 AM

                  i had a delicious dinner at OEG a while back -- everything from wine, starters, mains. great service, too (maybe because we were buying expensive wine, LOL).

              2. re: hill food
                Just Visiting RE: hill food Sep 5, 2013 03:38 AM

                I agree completely. You can have a perfectly OK meal at Clyde's. People like OP's folks tend not to be worried about more than "perfectly OK."

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                  JonParker RE: hill food Sep 5, 2013 01:35 PM

                  It's been many years now, but the best description of the Clyde's Group I ever heard was from a Chowhounder whose name I have forgotten.

                  He called it "like eating a big bowl of ok."

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                    hill food RE: JonParker Sep 5, 2013 03:20 PM

                    yes Clyde's will get no raves but when dealing with "the fuss-pots" it is safe and edible. and there's no nauseating "FLAIR!" on the waitstaff.

                    if the OP wants to push the 'American' envelope there's always Central right on Penn. and that's more of a nudge. even my folks would probably like that.

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                    Elyssa RE: hill food Sep 6, 2013 08:10 AM

                    The Hamilton is also part of Clyde's. Personally I like the Hamilton more than Clyde's or Old Ebbit. They have a salmon burger that I really love and a few salads that I get often for lunch.

                  3. ipsedixit RE: Rick Sep 4, 2013 08:01 PM


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                      Steve RE: Rick Sep 4, 2013 08:09 PM

                      In DC, Eatonville and DGS
                      In Arlington, Lyon Hall
                      In Fairfax, Artie's

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                        Just Visiting RE: Steve Sep 5, 2013 06:58 AM

                        I don't know Eatonville, but based on OP's description of his parents, I'm guessing that DGS will be too exotic. I mean: matzoh brei, tongue sandwiches. Yes, I know they have more basic stuff, but if OP's parents were like mine, they read the menu, start frowning, commenting on all the things that are unfamiliar or not made the way they think they should be made. My in-laws, too. Took them to a restaurant that had ONE thing on the huge menu that was unfamiliar to them (orzo). My FIL spent 20 minutes asking the waitress about this one dish even after we'd told him it was pasta shaped like rice. My MIL kept asking "what kind of place is this?"

                        My parents were the same way and I had the same problem whenever we went out (still do, with my mother). And someplace like Clyde's or Chef Geoff's (in all their iterations and variations) always turn out to be perfect.

                        I mean these are people who complain about portion size. I get so tired of saying to them, as one would have to say to a child, "Eat what you want and leave the rest or take it home."

                        Once I told my mother I was giving up and taking her to Silver Diner. She was thrilled!

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                          Steve RE: Just Visiting Sep 5, 2013 07:26 AM

                          All menus can be found online. I am merely pointing out places I think can work based on my parents' serious food limitations. YMMV.

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                            Just Visiting RE: Steve Sep 5, 2013 07:30 AM

                            It was not a personal comment meant to criticize you. It was a comment meant to help the OP.

                            Personally, I am often tempted to say to my mother and in-laws, "Let me tell you about the Ice Floe Cafe...."

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                              hill food RE: Just Visiting Sep 5, 2013 12:42 PM

                              yeah but The Ice Floe usually only has seating for one (if it's a good night).

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                          alkapal RE: Steve Sep 9, 2013 10:55 AM

                          i'm not sure about lyon hall for this app, steve.
                          i'd go more for liberty tavern in arlington.

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                          braver RE: Rick Sep 5, 2013 05:18 PM

                          ted's bulletin? more casually, silver diner? taylor gourmet for sandwiches? i also like wise guy for pizza.

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                            KeithW RE: Rick Sep 6, 2013 09:05 AM

                            Carlyle in Shirlington


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                              pgm123 RE: Rick Sep 8, 2013 10:02 AM

                              Perhaps Founding Farmers? Most of the menu is pretty unthreatening--when I was there, they had pot roast, gnocchi, shrimp and grits, fish, etc. But everything is housemade, reasonably priced, and with good portions, so that puts it a step above your typical "American" restaurant. I've never seen it too loud or crowded nor totally empty. It makes a pretty good compromise restaurant. Plus the location is convenient.

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                                Elder Berry RE: Rick Sep 15, 2013 06:07 AM

                                Founding Farmers or Art and Soul both sound possible. Old Ebbitt Grill is very busy and in the middle of everything so it has a very DC feel, if you want that kind of setting. If you do want pizza, I'd say also consider Pizza Paradiso or Two Amys. Any of the Clydes group places are fairly reliable and not exotic.

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                                  Just Visiting RE: Elder Berry Sep 15, 2013 06:30 AM

                                  I am sitting here giggling at the thought of OP's parents looking at a menu with words like "boudin balls" or "smoked beef tongue with sauce gribiche." Quinoa.

                                  If the downtown Founding Farmers is as plain-out-lousy as the one in Rockville, it doesn't matter what is on the menu. Six of us went for breakfast and of the six different dishes, only one was enjoyable - the pancakes. The rest of us took a couple of bites and then pushed the food around for a while. If you can't do breakfast right, then there isn't much hope for the lunch and dinner dishes!

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                                    flavrmeistr RE: Just Visiting Sep 16, 2013 01:00 PM

                                    I went to a place in LA last week called "LA Farmers" (not my call) and I wondered if there was any connection to Founding Farmers here in the DC area. Same schtick--a send-up of traditional American dishes that incorporate some ironic, jarring twist that make you wish you'd read the menu more carefully. The food was just bad, the interior dingy and vague, the staff mopey and listless. It's as if the place were designed and staffed by junkies.

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                                      Steve RE: flavrmeistr Sep 16, 2013 01:40 PM

                                      Are you talking about LA Farm? That has long been a 'see & be seen' place for Hollywood folk to talk business. I do not know if it retains its status to this day, but it used to be on the short list for celebrity sightings.

                                      You weren't canoodling with SAG/AFTRA people, were you?

                                      No connection, as Founding Farmers was started up, I think, by an agricultural co-op based out of North Dakota.

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                                        flavrmeistr RE: Steve Sep 17, 2013 07:19 PM

                                        As a matter of fact, I was....and with a few thousand other folks at the LA convention center. In the midst of all that, LA Farm(ers) was nearly deserted while all the other restaurants in the vicinity (Flemings, Rockin' Fish, etc.) were jumping. My first instinct was to flee, but I was with a group so it was impossible.

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                                        Elyssa RE: flavrmeistr Sep 16, 2013 05:13 PM

                                        Interesting---because I find the food at Founding Farmers equally as lackluster. Lots of talk, very little walk.

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                                          hill food RE: flavrmeistr Sep 16, 2013 06:38 PM

                                          "It's as if the place were designed and staffed by junkies"

                                          well that narrows things down in LA...

                                          apologies to my AngeleƱo friends. the bulk of LA offers wonderful fare, but every now and then there's a place like that.

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                                            flavrmeistr RE: hill food Sep 17, 2013 07:40 PM

                                            No slam on our Angeleno friends. LA Farm was the one low point during the 9 days in LA. Lots of ahi poke and seafood, even some decent Cuban food in Manhattan Beach. LA has lots of great food, and pretty reasonably priced by DC standards.

                                            What I've concluded is that any upscale restaurant with the word "farm", "farmer" or "grandma" in their name should be avoided, no matter where they're located.

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                                              hill food RE: flavrmeistr Sep 17, 2013 08:47 PM

                                              flavr: or "Old" anything on a liquor bottle.

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                                                JonParker RE: hill food Sep 17, 2013 09:49 PM

                                                I'm a big fan of Old Overholt.

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                                                  flavrmeistr RE: JonParker Sep 20, 2013 01:08 PM

                                                  Indeed. A top-notch American rye with a venerable history. Affectionately known as "Old Overcoat", it was America's best-selling whiskey prior to Prohibition. It's enjoying a resurgence of late, which I'm glad to see.

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                                      dining with doc RE: Rick Sep 16, 2013 05:26 PM

                                      How about Busboys and Poets...food is good, interesting, fresh and the menu is varied enough to please everyone

                                      1. Dennis S RE: Rick Sep 16, 2013 06:26 PM

                                        CF Folks - if during the week.

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                                          Worldwide Diner RE: Rick Sep 17, 2013 08:13 PM

                                          Ovvio Osteria for pizza and pasta - more authentic than red sauce but simple and good. Their pizza is as good as Pupatella and the pastas are good as well. Or you can take them to Matchbox for pizza and sliders.

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