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Jamie Oliver's "arrogant opinions about poor people" kerfuffle

I haven't been following Oliver at all, but when I first heard about him, I remember thinking how awesome it was that he was trying to do something that mattered. I guess it hasn't been going over so well?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2...

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  1. Right message wrong delivery.

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    1. re: ferret

      Agreed. I'll bet his words were taken out of context. Personally, I like Oliver and think he does more good than bad.

      1. re: jarona

        Yup. When any rich person of celebrity status decides to champion a cause involving less fortunate.....it is a good thing.

        No one is perfect in their message delivery all the time.

      2. re: ferret

        I agree . Growing up in a poor working class environment we were led to believe that most of what we ate was classless . Often called peasant food it had a negative connotation .Now looking at recipes that are considered Health Foods ,Vegan,The Mediterranean Diet etc. it's now chic and trendy.

      3. A very unfair attack. Blogger has some other agenda.

        1. I don't believe it at all.

          1. What was arrogant, self-righteous and obnoxious was the blog post, not Oliver.

            1. Based on the undertone of some of the threads recently when I read this yesterday I said to myself "I'm not touching this with a 10 foot pole". I am relieved to see that most, if not all, agree with my original opinion.

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              1. re: jrvedivici

                Yeah, I was hesitant to post it based on a few other things I'd been reading this week. I wasn't really sure how I felt about it, so I wanted to see what people more knowledgeable about him had to say. The comments on Slate just devolved into a "rice and beans" mudslinging fest.

              2. As a grocer (produce), I have to say that many people eat fast meals which cost them more than they would shopping at a smaller grocery store for produce. $8 can buy you two huge bags of produce at my stores. It can also buy you a Big mac meal at McDonald's.

                The problem isn't all money, it has a lot to do with education. Many people don't realize how bad the foods they are feeding their children are. That's the parents, forget about what the kids know or think. When I was younger, I would eat hot dogs and frozen pizza almost every day. My parents didn't know that soda was bad for us when we were growing up. They have said this to me on multiple occasions. We were as poor as poor can be but we could have eaten better.

                I stand behind what Jamie Oliver is doing. I think the news is sensationalizing and detracting from his message because he is a very famous person. This is the world we live in.

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                1. re: quddous

                  So much this. Some people might be doing it out of laziness, but most do it out of ignorance. No one is actively TRYING to shorten the lifespan of their child.

                  1. re: quddous

                    I like hearing your perspective on this, and agree completely. Some people argue that the poor eat fast food because it is cheaper, but I don't agree. A savvy shopper who knows how to cook can eat very well for very little money, without resorting to fast food or prepared meals. It does mean a lot of cheap staples like rice, beans, and potatoes (I don't know why people find this so insulting), supplemented with smaller amounts of the more expensive vegetables, which, if you watch for bargains (which just happen to coincide with seasonality), don't have to be that expensive after all. Meat has to be stretched thin, cheaper cuts, used more as a seasoning than a main dish. But that is a pretty healthy way to eat. I had my lean years as a college student, where after paying my bills, I had $10 left to eat for the week, and I got by just fine. I am very grateful to be well-off now, so I can buy whatever groceries I like, but I will always know that if the going gets rough, I can live on very little.

                    1. re: quddous

                      But the healthier oils(olive, avocado) are quite expensive. So the idea that the poor can buy a bunch of fresh produce and cook up a healthy meal is not so straightforward. Also you need good pans, knives, stirring implements and other cooking tools.