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Best roast duck and pork in Chinatown

I have been craving Chinese style duck for awhile and thinking about going down to Chinatown during lunch hours.
One of my coworkers who is Chinese recommended Big wong king.
Any other recommendation?

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  1. Your best bet is Big Wong King or NY Noodletown. Both have their fans. Both are old world Cantonese BBQ roast meat restaurants. I am not sure if Café Hongkong or Noodle Village have the full array of BBQ roasted meats but are excellent Cantonese options otherwise.

    Big Wong King:
    http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/...

    Café Hongkong:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/904820

    Great New York Noodletown:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678367

    Noodle Village:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493604

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    1. re: scoopG

      cafe hong kong and noodle village don't really make either

      i agree with scoopG's recs on big wong king and ny noodletown
      https://www.lauhound.com/2012/10/grea...

      some other options:
      - bo ky: different than cantonese roast duck, the chiu chow style duck at bo ky is quite good
      https://www.lauhound.com/2010/12/bo-k...
      - wah fung: this place is very popular, their cha siu marinade is very good.
      https://www.lauhound.com/2012/02/wah-...

      1. re: Lau

        don't go to wah fung. unless you like waiting on a long line. the place is (really) good, but it's exhausting.

        lau, was it you that went to that place on corner of hester and allen, and said it was good?

        1. re: villainx

          l usually hit Wah Fung between 3 and 5pm: lines at those times are not bad at all.

      2. re: scoopG

        I have been to many of the places referenced on this post but I think the best roast pork is at Ah-Wah on Catherine Street.

        1. re: sagetom

          really? their BBQ was always pretty weak, but i could try it again

      3. I would add Yee Li, on the corner of Bayard and Elizabeth, into the mix.....the owners of the old Hsin Wong... which I thought overall was better than both Big Wong and NY Noodletown/

        Did East Corner reopen?

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        1. re: fourunder

          oh yah yee li is the same owners, good point. i liked hsin wong as well

          i have not seen it reopen as of yet, but they actually had the best roast duck in chinatown

          1. re: Lau

            The older generations....and my entire extended family always believed Big Wong was the best. I can even recall when my father was in the hospital... his roommate was a well traveled Chinese businessman from the same area of Toisan/Canton as my family....he too believed the only place for Duck was Big Wong....this of course was back in the early 2000's.

            1. re: fourunder

              i think big wong's used to be a bit better (and the best at all BBQ) when i first moved here around 2000, but i dont think its as good as it used to be ive thought east corner was the best for a while

              1. re: Lau

                Big Wong is still tops for me. It's clearly not as good as before, but they enough stick to their roots to resemble the past glory enough. Something with Big Wong's cue just seems like they pay a little closer attention to the quality of the meats and process.

                1. re: Lau

                  In the past few months, Big Wong's cha siu was lacking, not very tender and fattier than I would have liked. But I had some this morning and it was much better.

          2. Can't believe no one mentioned Tan Wong on E Broadway. That's my fave.

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            1. re: Peter Cuce

              ive never actually eaten there, but sounds like ill change that soon. what your fav stuff there?

              1. re: Lau

                It's your basic Cantonese place but with shocking pink walls. I haven't explored widely because I don't go that often but when I do it's usually coz I'm craving roast pork & duck soup with wide rice noodles. I think it's better than East Corner was, although I loved that place dearly.
                btw unrelated but I noticed Yummy Noodles is gone and there's a new bakery on Bowery - didn't catch the name.

                1. re: Peter Cuce

                  you think the duck is better than east corner? the duck at east corner was actually really well known in the local cantonese community as being good, in particular their marinade was quite good. i always eat it over rice so you can taste it properly

                  1. re: Lau

                    Can't say specifically. Try it and see what you think.

            2. I will check out Big wong King and the sponge cake place Lau recommended...it will be a fun day.

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              1. re: Monica

                Both Big Wong and Noodletown microwave the duck before serving. It ruins the taste and becomes soggy. Both restaurants have new ownership and staff. Things have changed but not for the best.

                1. re: jfmirabella

                  This is something I have never seen or experienced....At what time of day? I could see this happening only in the late evening...during the day, the items turnover pretty well and I would think using a microwave would slow things down.

                  I

                  1. re: fourunder

                    ive never seen that, they always cut it up and give it to me

                    1. re: fourunder

                      If is tepid when it is served- then it's not. But if its hot,
                      which has been the case, It's microwaved for sure. Watch it the next time.

                      1. re: jfmirabella

                        Not that I don't believe you, but there might have been confusion or something (they thought you wanted it hot). Because those places don't care if it comes out cold or hot or whatnot. And/or most Chinese places won't care either.

                        1. re: villainx

                          i watch it every time bc i usually get take out and its cut up right in front of me. not saying it doesn't happen, but its not the usual and villainx is right that they don't care per se if its hot or not. i mean its shao la (cantonese bbq) and its rare that you happen to get there right when it gets out of the oven

                          1. re: villainx

                            I eat I at Big Wong yesterday. I was asked if I wanted the Roast Duck hot. If I had said yes, it would have been microwaved. This time I was asked. Sometimes it's microwaved without asking.

                            1. re: jfmirabella

                              I am going to Big wong today. I am thinking about 2 ducks and some roasted pork to take out to bring it home. Do you think that will be too heavy for a lady to carry around?? LOL What else is good there?

                      2. re: jfmirabella

                        It is absolutely essential to order CLEARLY that one wants the pork and duck at room temperature. They are pretty much ruined by being re-heated. If you don't speak Chinese, make it crystal clear that you will not pay for it if it has been heated. They never do it for Chinese costumers (they would never get away with it). I think Big Wong's crispy skin pig is still very good, and NY Noodletown's duck is still my favorite. But only at room temperature!
                        The sad thing is that they started heating the roast meats, because non-knowledgable people asked for it. So they think these idiotic people understand nothing and willingly ruin their own product.

                        1. re: swannee

                          I thought BW didn't offer Roast Pig any longer. I haven't been back in over a year, but in the last few otherwise, whenever I stopped for lunch, they didn't have any hanging in the window or available.

                    2. came back from Big wong king and the sponge cake place Lau recommended. Also bought some unknown fruits(forgot names already) from fruit stands.
                      We ate a bowl of soup with roasted duck and pork ribs, roasted pork rice crepe and something called Amoy chow mai fun. I wasn't crazy about the noodle soup itself but the roasted duck and pork ribs were amazing...just the right amount of fat, slightly chewy, tender meaty inside and flavorful. My Chinese coworker ordered Amoy chow mai fun which was really good...obviously something I woulnd't know about and wouldn't order..this is why you have to go to a new place with someone who already knows the stuff. It had good 'wok-wei' with really good sweet and sour pickled vegetables and little bits of pork and shrimps stir fried with thin noodle, not too greasy at all. It was actually mildly flavored but something about the dish that I fell in love with.
                      I picked up a whole duck and a whole strip of pork ribs. Picked up 7 sponge cakes..and carried them all the way to my work in midtown east. I am happy to share it with my family tonight!

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                      1. no love for big wing wong? One of my co-workers said it was opened by the original owners of bg wong. I haven't been there for a couple of years but last time I thought it was as good as big wong. NY noodletown is still my fav though.

                        1. The other day, my wife brought some of the siu yuk (crispy skinned roast pork) from New Canal Best. This was the most amazing siu yuk that she and I have ever had. Her cousin (Hong Kong born and raised) introduced her to the restaurant. She claimed that the roast duck was the best she ever had in NYC. She described it as very crispy skin not overly salty, moist meat. Charshiu (roast pork) was just okay, she said.

                          SO we went back there. The duck was not as good the second time. She theorized that during lunch, there was a very high volume and the skin was much crispier. However, the duck was not overly salted like most Chinatown roast meats. I watched the chef, and it looked like other duck that he was preparing had much crispier skin.

                          The place itself is not at all glamorous. It's right on canal. The doumiao (pea shoots fried in garlic) was good, but as usual a bit too oily. The char shiu was quite salty-like most Chinatown food. The meat was very fatty, which insures that it is very tender. The crispy pork was incredible. The best in Chinatown. The duck looked to be awesome, but we were unlucky. The guatieh (fried dumplings) are to be skipped (why order northern dishes in a Cantonese restaurant? Because my kids love them). So, if my wife's experience with the duck is to be consistently had, and the crispy pork remains so superior here, this is an important stop for anyone. We will be getting meats here regularly-the duck and the crispy pork especially.

                          But for a nice environment-not so much. Have to admit, very very nice waiters who indulged my low level Chinese speaking. NOTE: They only take cash.

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                          1. re: foodlovergeneral

                            This sounds great, thanks...what's the cross street?

                            1. re: howdini

                              It's on Canal between Broadway and Lafayette.

                                1. re: Lau

                                  I suggest going for lunch when the volume is high. The duck remains much crispier-that is my wife's theory at least. She went with her cousin (Cantonese from Hong Kong), and she swore that this was the best duck in the city. The crispy pork was the best I've ever had. She agreed.

                                2. re: foodlovergeneral

                                  will be there soon. thanks for the tip!

                                  1. re: Monica

                                    Please let me know your views. The duck-during the high volume hours; especially over rice, and the crispy pork were wonderful.

                                    1. re: foodlovergeneral

                                      I am going today for lunch with coworkers. Will report back!
                                      did you ever order anything else like noodle?

                                      1. re: Monica

                                        Just came back and yes, they have the best duck! Better than the one in Big Wong. It was perfectly seasoned.
                                        We also had lamb dish which my coworker liked. Fried chicken wings were good and so was the amory noodle dish...I love the wok hei(sp??) and the pickled vegetable in it. Next time I want to try their fried fish dish and fried tofu dish.

                                3. I have had Peking Duck House on my list for ages - surely the duck is fantastic there??

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                                  1. re: bronwen

                                    Never been there, but Beijing duck and the Cantonese roast duck we have been talking about are very different.

                                    1. re: bronwen

                                      Peking Duck House is not fantastic, it's serviceable and their pancakes are awful.

                                    2. Anyone know how early the chickens/ducks/pork are generally available?