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yoliv Aug 29, 2013 10:45 AM

I will be spending 5 days in NYC in September with my fellow pizza coworkers on our annual nyc pizza tour.

Because of the salty pizza I'll be consuming 4+ times a day, I need to find balance and satisfy my sweet tooth (teeth).

In addition to hitting up doughnut plant and getting my hands on a cronut, I'd love to try lesser known bakeries to get the full nyc experience.
(please don't suggest Magnolia)

I'll be staying in the LES, but I'm open to all boroughs!

Thank you!

  1. q
    quof Sep 10, 2013 04:57 PM

    If you are in town on September 17, Shake Shack is offering a one day only concrete that includes the Cronut in butter caramel frozen custard. Only at the Madison Square Park location. Sad cuz I don't arrive until the 18th.

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    1. re: quof
      kathryn Sep 10, 2013 05:47 PM

      Better get in line now...

      1. re: quof
        Monica Sep 11, 2013 06:31 AM

        and what time do i have to wake up for that?

        1. re: Monica
          quof Sep 11, 2013 02:00 PM

          Well, the MSP location has a webcam, it might be amusing to check it out.

          1. re: quof
            ellenost Sep 11, 2013 02:18 PM

            Wonder if there will be a special cronut concrete line?

            1. re: quof
              kathryn Sep 11, 2013 02:57 PM

              The SS web cam isn't even zoomed out enough to show the end of the burger line on nice days. Gonna need satellite view for the Cronut Hole Concrete line!

            2. re: Monica
              andytseng Sep 11, 2013 06:13 PM

              I wonder if this would be a good day for anyone who's ever been curious about the cronut but hasn't wanted to brave the lines at Dominique Ansel. Maybe a few of the cronut fanatics (cronatics?) will be at Shake Shack instead.

          2. m
            michaelw Sep 9, 2013 03:31 PM

            I had a similar query for my upcoming September visit. Some overlap, but you might want to check out the responses:


            1. Motosport Aug 31, 2013 05:36 AM

              Pie Face has some amazing desserts
              Junior's Strawberry Cheese Pie is my all time favorite. They also make amazing sundaes!!

              1. p
                pammi Aug 31, 2013 04:10 AM

                Nobody has mentioned The Sweet Life on Hester Street, an adorable candy shop where everything is homemade or LI-Lac in the West Village, a venerable candy shop in the West Village. Two musts in a quest for non-ordinary candy..

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                1. re: pammi
                  sugartoof Aug 31, 2013 10:07 AM

                  Not everything at The Sweet Life is homemade. Maybe the chocolate dipped items are done homemade in house. Cute shop though.

                2. c
                  cds2083 Aug 29, 2013 09:06 PM

                  Also W Village near Johns, Joes, Arturos, Keste, etc:

                  Mille Feuille on Laguardia for chocolate or almond croissants, and macaroons too. Incroyable. Really.

                  Molly's cupcakes on Bleeker by Carmine, better than other bigger names in the neighborhood IMHO.

                  Amorino gelato over on University Pl, much richer and more flavorful than Grom I think.

                  1. k
                    kathryn Aug 29, 2013 07:39 PM

                    If you have a sweet tooth, I hope you do at least one brunch at Shopsin's in the Essex St Market.

                    1. ipsedixit Aug 29, 2013 06:31 PM

                      Just tried the new ROYCE in Midtown/Bryant Park and it was pretty awesome.

                      Potato chocolate chips!


                      1. t
                        Ttrockwood Aug 29, 2013 04:07 PM

                        No one mentioned Big Gay ice cream, in e village with creative flavors
                        City bakery near union sq for the big chocolate chunk cookie and if you can handle more salt the pretzel croissant
                        Francois Payard bakeries may still have the macaron ice cream sandwich, i also like their pistachio macaron

                        I am sure fellow chowhounders would appreciate a recap of your favorites after the pizza-thon tastings!

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                        1. re: Ttrockwood
                          kathryn Aug 29, 2013 07:11 PM

                          There's also a Big Gay Ice Cream Shop now in the West Village, 7th Ave.

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                            ellenost Aug 31, 2013 04:59 AM

                            Stopped by the Big Gay Ice Cream Shop on Seventh Ave. South & Grove St. before seeing "Buyer & Cellar"--the funniest show I've seen in a long time--and I ordered the famous "salty pimp" that was wonderful! Vanilla soft serve in a cone with dulche de leche and sea salt coated in a chocolate shell (a Carvel Brown Bonnet for the 21st century). There is seating, and service was very nice.

                            1. re: ellenost
                              cheesecake17 Sep 10, 2013 11:18 AM

                              How's the seating? Want to take our daughter (who loves ice cream!)

                              1. re: cheesecake17
                                loratliff Sep 10, 2013 12:11 PM

                                There's plenty.

                                1. re: loratliff
                                  cheesecake17 Sep 10, 2013 06:12 PM

                                  Thanks! It's counter service, right?

                                  1. re: cheesecake17
                                    ellenost Sep 10, 2013 06:19 PM


                                    1. re: ellenost
                                      cheesecake17 Sep 11, 2013 01:16 PM

                                      Awesome! Can't wait :)

                        2. f
                          foodiegirl76 Aug 29, 2013 03:08 PM

                          Great neighborhood you'll be staying, since I live there!!!

                          You'll love Doughnut Plant. Try there chai latte! and creme brûlée!

                          The macarons at Bisous Ciao is to die for.

                          The cupcakes at Sugar Sweet Sunshine (better) and Babycakes (good) are the places to check out.

                          and for ice cream, you'll have to go to il laboratorio del gelato!

                          Also, there are many bakeries in Chinatown that you should swing by!

                          1. ellenost Aug 29, 2013 02:01 PM

                            If you're in the East Village, you might want to try the do'ssaint at Chikalicious Dessert Club (East 10th Street between First & Second Ave. but closer to Second Ave.); their version of the cronut is delicious; I won't get in line at dawn for a cronut. I love the special caramel cupcake at Chikalicious. Also excellent is Macaron Parlour at St. Marks Place & First Ave. Macaron Parlour has some very unique (and tasty) macarons; I love their bacon macaron. They also have an excellent version of kouign amann.

                            On the LES, you should try Bisous Ciao for macarons. The boutique is a jewel box, and their macarons are excellent (especially their caramel).

                            If you find yourself on the UES (upper east side), I highly recommend the macarons at Laduree on Madison Ave. & E. 70 St. Laduree's macarons are my favorite.

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                              foodieX2 Aug 29, 2013 01:51 PM

                              I know it's frowned on here but if you don't have access to retro candy where you are swing by Dylan's. SkyBars, marathon bars, candy cigarettes, etc. Not gourmet, not hip and trendy, no buzz etc but those things are all mail order for me so we make a point of stopping in. Brings me right back to childhood.

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                              1. re: foodieX2
                                loratliff Aug 29, 2013 01:57 PM

                                Economy Candy has all of the same stuff without the froo-froo aspect of Dylan's.

                                1. re: loratliff
                                  foodieX2 Aug 29, 2013 02:00 PM

                                  Don't care about atmosphere but if if Econ make you feel better go for it. Its all about the candy!

                                  1. re: foodieX2
                                    loratliff Aug 29, 2013 03:00 PM

                                    Right, but Economy is probably cheaper than Dylan's too. You're not paying for that uptown rent.

                                    1. re: loratliff
                                      Ttrockwood Aug 29, 2013 03:59 PM

                                      Also note economy candy is on the LES where OP is staying

                                2. re: foodieX2
                                  UES Mayor Aug 30, 2013 04:15 AM

                                  Dylan's??? Consider Economy candy on the Lower east side instead!!! Dylan's prices are an insult!!!

                                  1. re: foodieX2
                                    sugartoof Aug 30, 2013 09:22 AM

                                    "Not gourmet, not hip and trendy, no buzz etc"

                                    You're describing Economy while talking about Dylan's.

                                    Apologies for piling on, but try Economy next time. If you're really after retro candies, in a no buzz, non-trendy setting, you'll love it. Imagine stepping into crowded warehouse showroom for the places you order your mail candy from, and then make it 100x's more New York in atmosphere, and you've got Economy Candy. The only downside are the hours.

                                    1. re: sugartoof
                                      foodieX2 Aug 30, 2013 09:41 AM

                                      Nah, I'm good. Been there once but Dylans for us is easy, in and out. Economy had some things cheaper some things more expensive. Overall, I'll take Dylan's for selection, ease and convenience. When you get to NYC only 1-2x a year that's the name of the game for me! But then again I always hit Katz too, much poohed poohed here too so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.

                                      1. re: foodieX2
                                        sugartoof Aug 30, 2013 10:25 AM

                                        I'm puzzled by this, considering I'm one of the few people in CH history who vocally dislikes Katz's. It's as beloved on this forum as any place.

                                        As for Dylan's, by all means, if it's convenient, then great. Unfortunately, the Dylan's you describe; void of buzz, or trendy gourmet items, or easy in and out no fuss, without attempting hipness, simply doesn't exist. I would liken it closer to visiting Toys R' Us a week before Christmas. Once again, the place you describe matches closer to Economy Candy. Either way, I'm glad you've found the candy you're looking for when visiting.

                                  2. f
                                    facultyandtraveler Aug 29, 2013 01:49 PM

                                    I copied part of a previous post I wrote--it gives you a little more information than you wanted. Enjoy your trip.

                                    Il Cantuccio is an Italian (Tuscan) café that uses entirely authentic recipes when preparing their biscotti, bread, pizza, and focaccia menu items (including Italian sandwiches). They produce baked goods that are of superior quality. The biscotti and cookies will cost you about $1.25 each(they weigh the items and sell them priced per pound). They give generous samples of biscotti, cookies, focaccia, and on weekends samples of their wonderful Italian airy donuts(donuts are only available on Sat & Sun). There are wonderful variations on focaccia with everything from pizza to toppings of tomatoes and olives, sandwiches too. This place makes a very traditional cappuccino that puts most places to shame. The staff is very friendly. They offer outside seating but I didn't go outside.

                                    Il Cantuccio is located in the West Village (91 Christopher St) just down the street from the subway (Christopher St. - Sheridan Sq (1, 2 subway). The location near the corner of Bleecker St. allows you to walk down Bleecker where there is an Amy’s Bread and Pasticceria Rocco’s. Several ice cream or gelato stores are in the area too.

                                    Additionally, for a classic NY Slice of pizza, you are near Joe's Pizzza (7 Carmine Street)--just around the corner and across the street from a nice park with plenty of shade and benches(Father Demo Square) at Bleecker and Carmine.

                                    Since you are in the LES, check out a hole in the wall pizza place called Stanton Pizza (127 Stanton St).

                                    1. r
                                      Riverman500 Aug 29, 2013 01:33 PM

                                      Lady M
                                      Two Little Red Hens
                                      Minamoto Kitchoan

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                                      1. re: Riverman500
                                        chowmeow Aug 29, 2013 06:13 PM

                                        I second Minamoto Kitchoan if you like Japanese sweets, or would like to get to know them. I love their sakura mochi, which are chewy, sweet bean paste-filled rice dumplings, wrapped with slightly salty cherry leaves.
                                        Kyotofu is wonderful too.
                                        Also, Paris Baguette in Korea Town for an Asian twist on French pastries. The one in Flushing is better, but I have a feeling you won't be heading to Flushing for pizza.

                                        1. re: Riverman500
                                          kosmose7 Sep 2, 2013 09:16 PM

                                          Kyotofu is closed.

                                          1. re: kosmose7
                                            Monica Sep 9, 2013 10:37 AM

                                            Kyotofu Midtown west is closed? wow...

                                            1. re: Monica
                                              thegforceny Sep 10, 2013 05:23 PM

                                              They are retail now. I tasted their products at Whole Foods.

                                          2. re: Riverman500
                                            ellenost Sep 3, 2013 03:56 AM

                                            Tried Lady M for the first time on Saturday, and fell in love with the classic Mille crèpe!

                                            1. re: ellenost
                                              Pookipichu Sep 3, 2013 10:20 AM

                                              The banana chocolate and green tea crepes are very yummy too :)

                                          3. loratliff Aug 29, 2013 12:31 PM

                                            Get a pistachio cupcake at Sugar Sweet Sunshine (on Rivington, on the LES). Started by two Magnolia alums—I think they're what Magnolia was when it was at its best. Plus, at $1.75, the cupcakes are still cheap.

                                            Also LES: Laboratorio del Gelato and Economy Candy are must-stops.

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                                            1. re: loratliff
                                              Blumie Aug 29, 2013 01:14 PM

                                              Irrespective of the stupidity of the cupcake craze, Sugar Sweet Sunshine is worth a visit, particularly if you're staying on the LES. I was not aware of the Magnolia connection, and I'm glad I wasn't or I might never have tried it, but it's the anti-Magnolia, serving up a great product in a down-to-earth setting at a reasonable price.

                                              1. re: Blumie
                                                Ttrockwood Aug 29, 2013 03:57 PM

                                                Also a big fan of sugar sweet sunshine here- perfect frosting to cake ratio

                                              2. re: loratliff
                                                sugartoof Aug 30, 2013 09:02 AM

                                                "I think they're what Magnolia was when it was at its best."

                                                Pricing is the only thing in common. Magnolia's cake was more like a corn bread, and the icing was always sweet and thick.

                                                Sugar Sweet Sunshine are all around better. I wouldn't consider them a gourmet cupcake however.

                                                1. re: sugartoof
                                                  loratliff Aug 30, 2013 01:30 PM

                                                  Well, I personally find them very similar to Magnolia. The icing is almost identical (except that Magnolia's icing is often stale, IMO).

                                                  And pricing... Not even comparable. A cupcake at SSS is $1.75 versus $3.50 at Magnolia?

                                                  1. re: loratliff
                                                    sugartoof Aug 30, 2013 02:11 PM

                                                    When Magolia was at it's best, the cupcakes were a lot cheaper.

                                                    I prefer Sugar Sweets icing.

                                                  2. re: sugartoof
                                                    uhockey Sep 10, 2013 05:35 PM

                                                    ...doesn't SSS admit to making box-based cupcakes? I think they are terrible, personally. Gritty icing. Two Little Red Hens and Sweet Revenge plus Dessert Club Chicalicious put them to shame.


                                                    1. re: uhockey
                                                      sugartoof Sep 10, 2013 06:32 PM

                                                      Really? I think I've made that accusation about them before, but I figured it was more a fluke that they were just approximating a Duncan box. That would be really hilarious. Mind you, there are some cupcake shops that would do well to just stick to a mix.

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                                                  roze Aug 29, 2013 11:09 AM

                                                  Since your doing a pizza tour I assume you'll be going to Keste, John's and/or Joes. Right near those you could try a cannelle at Boise Tea Parlor, Pignoli's at Rocco's and gelato at Grom.

                                                  For chocolates I highly suggest a stop at Chocolat Moderne. It's tucked away on the 9th floor of an office building but so worth it for their incredible hand painted bon bons. The flavors are incredible and the staff couldn't be sweeter.

                                                  Cake Truffles and Crack Pie at Momofuku Milk Bar are always a treat and don't forget to have a Macaron on the UES at Laduree or the amazing Crepe Cake at Lady M. Enjoy!

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                                                  1. re: roze
                                                    kathryn Aug 29, 2013 07:09 PM

                                                    Near/on Bleecker St there's also Royce Chocolates from Japan, Biscous Ciao macarons, salted caramel goat milk soft serve from Victory Garden, baked goods at Amy's Bread, Murray's Cheese (which carries various sweets, like Mast Brothers chocolate bars, Beurre & Sel cookies, etc), in addition to Cones, Big Gay Ice Cream, and Grom.

                                                    London Candy Co also just opened on Bleecker St, with British candy and Stumptown coffee.

                                                    And Bien Cuit is a short walk away.

                                                    If you're a real chocolate person, the Kee's in Soho isn't too far either.

                                                    And you can get some Two Little Red Hens and Balthazar items at Dean & Deluca.

                                                    1. re: kathryn
                                                      Monica Aug 30, 2013 05:25 AM

                                                      Bien cuit is closed for now...due to damage from flood so they say...I am gonig to check out their Brooklyn shop today. Can't wait until I taste their baguette and other goodies.

                                                      1. re: kathryn
                                                        Pookipichu Sep 3, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                        Are you a fan of Royce Chocolates? I find them a little too sweet for me and the texture almost "too" creamy if that's possible. Especially the white chocolate, almost makes me gag with sweetness.

                                                        I tried Maison du Choclat's "extreme" and I thought it was very balanced in texture, sweetness and flavor. I still prefer Kee's overall.

                                                        1. re: Pookipichu
                                                          Monica Sep 9, 2013 10:40 AM

                                                          I wasn't a fan of Royce chocolate at all. I thought it tasted similar to Japanese chocolate sold in supermarkets.
                                                          I tasted their milk chocolate and thought it wasn't rich enough(creamy but not rich) and had very light taste. Of course chocolate at Mison du Chocolat is to die for.

                                                          1. re: Monica
                                                            Pookipichu Sep 9, 2013 10:49 AM

                                                            I haven't tried their milk chocolate but I've had their white, dark and maccha.

                                                            The white chocolate was so sweet I literally could not tolerate it. All of them have this ultra creamy texture that is so smooth it's strangely off-putting to me.

                                                    2. bobabear Aug 29, 2013 11:09 AM

                                                      Oops - my brain isn't working this morning. I read LES as East Village in my head.

                                                      If you ARE in East Village, check out:

                                                      Chikalicious - either the dessert club (order at counter, sit down at booth or take out) or the dessert bar across the street (more sit down style and more expensive). I love their baked apple crisp and strawberry shortcake.

                                                      Also you could walk into Momofuku Milk Bar and grab some of the sweets! Their cookies are amazing :)

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                                                      1. re: bobabear
                                                        kathryn Aug 29, 2013 07:35 PM

                                                        Note that each Momofuku Milk Bar has a slightly different menu--the soft serves aren't all the same, for example.

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