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Aug 29, 2013 09:38 AM

Tempranillo in Tuscany???

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  1. why not? They're growing grapes from everywhere else there these days...

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      1. re: zin1953

        Did you notice my tongue firmly inside my cheek? ;)

    1. Why the question marks. If the article is accurate, the wine maker is respecting the grape as he was given and attempting to create a great wine. Would it be better to pull up the vines and replant more "regional" grapes?

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        1. re: zin1953

          So, no imported varieties anywhere? Just the home grown grapes? We in the US would be drinking concord grape wine. Yuck!

          1. re: budnball

            Where does THAT come from? Certainly it has nothing to do with anything I said.

            1. re: zin1953

              Maybe I misunderstood but you answered my question about digging up the Tempranilo with a yes and and your tone in this thread seemed to say that it was wrong to plant any non Tuscan varieties in Tuscany.

              1. re: budnball

                It is (IMHO), but that has nothing to do with Concord . . .

                There is a history in Europe dating back centuries of growing specific grapes in specific locations. Over those centuries, through trial and error -- as well as, to be honest, sheer accident -- it's been determined that certain varieties thrive in certain locations. By and large, these were then codified in the regulations of the Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée of France; the Denominazione di Origine Controllata and Denominazione di Origine Controllata e Garantita of Italy; the Denominación de Origen and Denominación de Origen Calificada of Spain; Denominação de Origem Controlada of Portugal; the Qualitätswein bestimmter Anbaugebiete (QbA) and Prädikatswein of Germany; and so on and so on . . . .

                The rise of plantings such as Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, and Chardonnay in places like the Languedoc, the Loire, Italy, etc. has led these varieties (and others) to be known as "international" varieties. And *none* are any good. The fact that Spanish wines in general, and Tempranillo in particular, have seen a surge in popularity is what has spawned new plantings in new locations -- and is undoubtedly why this grape variety is being planted in Tuscany . . . where (also, undoubtedly) it will either make a boring, uninteresting "international" wine, or an expensive, over-oaked Tempranillo version of a Super Tuscan. Either way . . . .

                As far as the REST of the World is concerned, *all* Vitis vinifera is imported. The New World (North & South America, South Africa, Oceana, etc.) have no history compared to Europe, and if you're lucky if you have 150 years of experience . . . California has but 80. The rest of the world has NO equivalent to AOC/DOC(G)/DO, etc.

                1. re: zin1953

                  Ok I get that but..... The article you reference talks of centuries old vines. That is not a reaction to a flavour of the month type business model. The article also says this this winemaker is the only one in the area using this grape. Does not sound like a trend.

      1. Zin1953 and others.. Hello all.

        If you read the article carefully, these Tempranillo vines weren't "planted" in Tuscany by Italians or even Etruscans. They were planted there centuries ago by religious pilgrims migrating to Rome from other spots in Europe - including Spain. That's how they came to be there. The vineyard in question is 200+ years old. That's serious history to rip uo just because it "isn't Italian".

        While I agree that the "international varietals" have been over extended across the globe, I don't think they're "worthless" and I think they make some great wines. Would we be better off without wines like Sassicaia, Ornellaia, Masseto, Redigaffi, and dozens of others? I'd say no way.

        That being said, it was likely the ancient Romans who brought Cabernet and Merlot to France in the first place. So they may be Italian in the first place......

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