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New Ikea Sensuell cookware - or other - for new induction?

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lazy_lurker Aug 29, 2013 08:13 AM

I will soon be upgrading to an induction cooktop, and had about convinced myself to buy all-clad (though which model is still an issue). But I came across these new pans at Ikea:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/cat...
Sensuell series - they have the aluminum core up the sides, are heavy, and felt good in my hands.

Has anyone tried these? I am looking for pieces to augment my induction-compatible old wagner cast iron frying pan, and le creuset dutch oven. Love the made-in-usa all clad, but the sensuell pans are maybe 20% of the all-clad price.

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  1. c oliver RE: lazy_lurker Aug 29, 2013 08:26 AM

    Those look wonderful and I've never gotten anything at Ikea that didn't perform at least as well as expected. I have a set that I got at Costco for right at $200. If shopping now, I'd probably go for the Ikea and if I want to add anything later, I definitely will. Hopefully someone has tried them. Be interested to hear. BTW, you're gonna love induction. We've been away for the last two weeks and I've missed it.

    1. kaleokahu RE: lazy_lurker Aug 29, 2013 03:41 PM

      Hi, lazy_lurker:

      How heavy are they? Any idea how thick they are?

      The off-center porthole on the lids and the canted handles on the pot...ah, those crazy Scandinavians!

      I also can't find anything in your link that confirms they're induction-compatible. The photos of them in use all seem to have been taken on a gas range. Better ask.

      Aloha,
      Kaleo

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        kelliejane RE: kaleokahu Oct 12, 2013 08:16 PM

        I was checking these out in store today, I thought they were comparable in weight to the All-Clad. I just compared specs online, and a 2qt All-Clad tri ply sautuese weighs 4 pounds WITH THE LID; the Ikea version weighs 3.5lb for the same size. The stock pot lid is the correct dimension for the sautuese.
        I wasn't carrying my micrometer, so I couldn't comment on the thickness.
        The instore information confirms these are suitable for induction cooking.

        Kellie

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          c oliver RE: kelliejane Oct 12, 2013 08:29 PM

          Great to know! Will let my daughter know who's doing a kitchen remodel. Including an Ikea kitchen.

      2. chefj RE: lazy_lurker Aug 29, 2013 04:46 PM

        Try the Magnet test. If the base is magnetic grade SS it a magnet will stick to it and it will work on an Induction Burner.

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          c oliver RE: chefj Aug 29, 2013 05:01 PM

          I just went to their website and searched for "induction cookware." It was not one of the ones listed.

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            lazy_lurker RE: c oliver Sep 2, 2013 12:32 PM

            I don't know how well the Ikea search function works, but both at the store, and in the "additional information" on their web site, it says it works with all cooktops, including induction. Didn't try the magnet, but did see induction on the sign.

            They are very heavy and nicely balanced pans. With a 5 qt sauce pan with lid at $50, an 11 inch frying pan for $45, and a 9-inch sauteuse pan for $35, they seem like a steal!

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              c oliver RE: lazy_lurker Sep 2, 2013 12:46 PM

              Obviously the search function didn't work well AT ALL! That's really good to know. They're quite handsome, aren't they? Our daughter and family will be gutting a kitchen in the coming months and I'm hoping she'll go induction. These would be great for them. Thanks for the followup.

        2. Candy RE: lazy_lurker Sep 2, 2013 12:42 PM

          Before you make a firm decision take a look at Chantal Copper Fusion. They are made in Germany, enameled inside and out and the core is copper and carbon steel. They are amazingly fast on induction. They are on the expensive side but I feel they are worth it.

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            lazy_lurker RE: Candy Sep 2, 2013 01:24 PM

            Those are beautiful pans! I think I will have a go-slow approach, and just add single pans when a clear need arises. I will keep these in mind!

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              Candy RE: lazy_lurker Sep 3, 2013 08:55 AM

              That is the way to go. I've been buying 1 at a time as I replace older cookware that needs an inter-phase disc to work on induction.

          2. C. Hamster RE: lazy_lurker Sep 2, 2013 03:54 PM

            I've had the opposite. Nothing from Ikea has performed. Particularly anything from their kitchen dept.

            Despite the fact that all the products are named after my relatives, I'm not shopping there any more.

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              c oliver RE: C. Hamster Sep 2, 2013 04:12 PM

              I'm sorry you've had that experience. There's hardly a room in our home that doesn't have something from there and it's all been great. We've built two Ikea kitchens and they're real workhorses. One is eight years old and the only flaw is a scrape across one of the lower cabinet door. I could buy a replacement panel but it really doesn't show. And we have one of their DWs and range hoods.

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                C. Hamster RE: c oliver Sep 3, 2013 05:40 PM

                Glad you like it.

                I agree with kaleo, though.

                Ikea = summer house or dorm room.

                The one thing I still have that I purchased there is my bathroom trash can. Everything else failed or fell apart.

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                  c oliver RE: C. Hamster Sep 3, 2013 06:11 PM

                  Ikea = two homes where we divide our time.

                  The first we did eight years ago and everything is in like-new condition. And Ikea kitchens are well reviewed all over the world. Again, super sorry you mileage varied so wildly from so many others :(

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                  sunshine842 RE: c oliver Sep 4, 2013 06:39 PM

                  I had an Ikea kitchen in a house we rented for several years. I loved the cabinets enough to be seriously considering them to replace the tired, worn-out cabinets in this house.

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                  kaleokahu RE: C. Hamster Sep 2, 2013 04:31 PM

                  Hi, C.H: "Nothing from Ikea has performed."

                  My experience is that Ikea's wares are budget, entry-level goods like one would want to outfit a student apartment, summer cabin or first home, where most of the budget has already been shot elsewhere. Personally, I disfavor the Ikea-until-we-can-afford-better approach, and would counsel the extremely budget conscious to simply buy vintage used until... But some people feel like they *must* spend to have new, even if it's mediocre quality.

                  Aloha,
                  Kaleo

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                    bevwinchester RE: kaleokahu Sep 2, 2013 08:11 PM

                    We have an Ikea in the DFW area- I nearly suffered an anxiety attack trying to find my way out of there the last time I visited! I will say that the home wares section had some nice looking products, though.

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                      c oliver RE: bevwinchester Sep 2, 2013 08:37 PM

                      It IS overwhelming, isn't it??? Our first project did eventually get budget-driven since it exceeded our original cost by 5X :( But after eight years with the kitchen and all the other parts, we gutted a second home and there was never any doubt that I wanted another Ikea kitchen. A year later and I'm still SO happy. Oh, I guess I should add that at THIS point I could have afforded any damn thing I wanted. I still chose the Ikea. SOME people's mileage can certainly vary.

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                      tcamp RE: kaleokahu Sep 4, 2013 09:49 AM

                      I'm another who has had mainly good experiences with Ikea goods. We had some "entry-level" furniture from there years ago that we outgrew and gave away (still functional). But the house, and my office, is today filled with Ikea goods - lamps, cooking utensils, storage stuff, dishware, glasses, rugs, picture frames, etc. I just set up a study area for the kids using Ikea shelving and chairs. I like the prices and the clean, Scandinavian style.

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                        c oliver RE: tcamp Sep 4, 2013 11:09 AM

                        Our SF kids closed yesterday on their first home and an Ikea kitchen is what they want. They've seen how well ours (plural) have held up. A brief story. One of our dearest friends is also a bit of a snob, thinking if it costs more it must be better. He had a fit over the kilim rugs we have here. Was speechless when I told him they came from Ikea.

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                        lazy_lurker RE: kaleokahu Sep 4, 2013 11:39 AM

                        I think Ikea is like many stores, - items range from good to bad. I've purchased two flour sifters from them; both failed, and I was fully refunded for both. But I've also had good luck. I have a dutch oven purchased inexpensively that I use for baking no-knead bread (metal handles!), and their kitchen cabinets are excellent.
                        These particular pans were a surprise to me because they are heavy, and well balanced -- very similar to all clad.

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                          kaleokahu RE: lazy_lurker Sep 4, 2013 11:51 AM

                          Hi, l_l:

                          Re: heavy... See if Ikea will give you the thickness/layer specs. Without that information, heavy might just mean extra steel. These are very inexpensive pans, after all--$130 gets you the entire set.

                          Also, if you go to their site http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/cat... and play the video, they are using the Sensuelle on an induction appliance. So I guess that answers that.

                          Aloha,
                          Kaleo

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                            c oliver RE: lazy_lurker Sep 4, 2013 12:08 PM

                            Don't worry that they don't cost a lot :) I got a Circulon 13 piece set, induction capable, from Costco for about $200. Still look and cook like brand new after 3-1/2 years. I'm definitely going to recommend to our daughter that she check out those Ikea ones.

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                              kaleokahu RE: c oliver Sep 4, 2013 01:02 PM

                              Hi, c oliver:

                              Sure, it's *possible* that a disc-bottom sauteuse that retails for $34 new is a great pan, but not very likely.

                              Aloha,
                              Kaleo

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                              c oliver RE: lazy_lurker Sep 4, 2013 03:24 PM

                              I also like Ikea's 25 year limited warranty on this particular product. "Limited" is the standard language meaning you can't abuse it :) I saw your post on Serious Eats and think someone's suggestion to buy one and cook with it is a great idea. And you don't have to wait til you get the cooktop. If you don't like it, easy enough to return. I await your opinion :)

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                                kaleokahu RE: c oliver Sep 4, 2013 05:52 PM

                                Hi, c oliver: " "Limited" is the standard language meaning you can't abuse it."

                                LOL, you must've gone to a different law school than I did. I was taught that "Limited" is *particular* language the seller chooses to use to limit the buyer's warranty rights while making it appear they stand strong behind the product..

                                Aloha,
                                Kaleo

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                                c oliver RE: lazy_lurker Sep 4, 2013 06:17 PM

                                I realized I forgot to link to the warrant info.

                                http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/customer...

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                                  kaleokahu RE: c oliver Sep 4, 2013 06:36 PM

                                  Thanks, c oliver:

                                  Under "exclusions":

                                  "The limited warranties do not apply to products that have been stored or assembled incorrectly, used inappropriately, abused, misused, altered, or cleaned with wrong cleaning methods or wrong cleaning products. The warranties do not cover normal wear and tear, cuts or scratches, or damage caused by impacts or accidents. The warranties do not apply if products have been placed outdoors or in a humid environment or if the products have been used for non-domestic purposes (unless otherwise stated). The warranty does not cover consequential or incidental damages. For customers in the US only: some states do not allow the limitation or exclusion of incidental or consequential damage, so this limitation or exclusion may not apply to you. The warranties are to the benefit of the original purchaser of the product. They are not transferable. For details see the limited warranty conditions and description for each product."

                                  That's what'[s NOT covered. To see what Ikea DOES cover on Sensuelle, you have to look here:

                                  "The limited warranty covers: • Stability of the base. • Washing in a domestic dishwasher...This limited warranty does not cover changes in the appearance of the cookware unless they have a significant effect on function."

                                  As a lawyer, I think the "humid environment" exclusion is a brilliant way to dodge *any* warranty claim whatsoever on pots and pans.

                                  Aloha,
                                  Kaleo

                          2. C. Hamster RE: lazy_lurker Sep 2, 2013 03:56 PM

                            Cookware and More sells big discount All Clad which will perform well and will last forever.

                            1. JTPhilly RE: lazy_lurker Mar 23, 2014 06:01 PM

                              On the Ikea Sensuell I was at Ikea this weekend shopping for rugs - but could not stay away from the cookware - I was expecting to see a bunch of junk like the virtually disposable ikea cookware I owned way back in college I was surprised in particular with the sensuell clad line - the aluminum layer was thicker than in most clad lines - equal to the thickness on my Calphalon commercial - the line included a sauteuse, a fry pan and a stock pot - despite some odd styling choices on the handles and lids I have to say $ for $ I was pretty impressed for the price point - I did not buy any because I could not even pretend to profess a need and because the handles don't allow for hanging and I get a bit hung up about buying MIC products but I think they deserve a look. Even the basic 365 stuff was not "junk" it was decent disk bottom pans - not the best but definitely serviceable looking and very very affordable.

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                                lazy_lurker RE: JTPhilly Apr 29, 2014 09:32 AM

                                Sensuell are on sale -- 20% off -- for another week or so. Might be time to finally pull the trigger.

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