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Disappearance of Greek Style 10% Yogurt From Grocery Stores

1sweetpea Aug 27, 2013 10:24 AM

It's getting tougher and tougher to find any plain yogurt (especially the drained, Greek style) that isn't fat-free. I like to use the 10% yogurt instead of sour cream or mayo in a lot of dips or as a topping for potatoes. I like to make tzatziki, Turkish cacik and other yogurt-based dips and sauces. The Greek style is easier to deal with than draining lower percentage yogurts, which are frequently the stirred kind that won't drain properly.

I used to be able to buy the Liberte 10% at Zehrs, but virtually all higher fat plain yogurts have been replaced by 0% and a vast array of flavoured fat-free and low fat yogurts. The Foodland near my cottage was carrying it, but it has recently disappeared. I'm having to search high and low for it or an equivalent. Costco carries the 2% version, but it is very difficult to drain. I'm not a fan of Astro products, either, though I will resort to the 6% Balkan style, if necessary.

Am I the only one buying this stuff? Surely not. I can still find the Liberte 10% in Windsor, in some smaller shops and Eastern European specialty stores. Is there just no demand for it in the bigger chains?

  1. coll Aug 27, 2013 10:39 AM

    Wow I never heard of 10%, can't say where the heck you'd find it off hand. Or is that just the normal yogurt that doesn't have a percent, like "Total"? I'm not picky, but yes the one that doesn't say a percentage is the top of the line. I will keep my eyes open later when I go shopping.

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      1sweetpea Aug 27, 2013 10:59 AM

      It's often labeled "Greek Style". It has a consistency closer to sour cream, but with a tangy yogurt taste. Some may sit down to a bowl of it, but for me it's just perfect for dips and sauces. Liberte has a number of 9% yogurts with fruit and other flavours, many of which are delicious. I'm specifically griping about the disappearance of the plain, though. I should add that the mocha, black cherry, lemon and other flavours are delicious, for a decadent, but still healthy, treat.

      1. re: 1sweetpea
        coll Aug 27, 2013 11:37 AM

        Oh I know Greek Style by name, then there is only 2%, 1% and 0%. That's quite the jump! Good to know, thanks!

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      Violatp Aug 27, 2013 10:43 AM

      It's a problem in the States, too. Very frustrating.

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        1sweetpea Aug 27, 2013 10:59 AM

        The 0% Greek style just doesn't compare, IMHO.

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          Violatp Aug 27, 2013 11:06 AM

          Agreed.

      2. coll Aug 27, 2013 01:47 PM

        I'm sorry didn't realize you were in Canada. Went to the local supermarket and this is what they had, no "percentage" of fat, just one that you would assume is the normal one. Or do you not even have Fage, maybe I jumped into something else.

         
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        1. re: coll
          1sweetpea Aug 28, 2013 03:08 PM

          No Fage where I shop in Canada. I'm not sure if it's available in other parts of the country. The Liberte products I've mentioned are made in Quebec and have a superior taste and texture to most other yogurts I've tried.

          In Canada, labels list the fat percentage, rather than use terms like "fat free" or "low fat". I know 10% seems like a lot of fat, but compare it to sour cream, which is 14% fat and contains a number of ingredients that I don't care to consume, especially when I can just sub in the 10% yogurt. I'm not proposing cooking or baking with it, per se, but just to sub for sour cream as a topping (i.e. borscht, baked potatoes).

          1. re: 1sweetpea
            coll Aug 28, 2013 03:11 PM

            I had Liberte awhile back but now I hear they were bought out by General Mills and not as good. I didn't realize the difference in brands was so great.

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              1sweetpea Aug 28, 2013 03:16 PM

              I'm pretty sure that only the US consumers are affected by that buyout. The Liberte products that are actually produced in Quebec are still of the same high quality ... for now.

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                coll Aug 29, 2013 05:28 AM

                Everything changes and nothing stays the same. Sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse!

                But I AM fascinated with the jump from 1 or 2% right up to 9 or 10% Can't figure it out from the nutritional label.

                1. re: coll
                  1sweetpea Aug 29, 2013 09:48 AM

                  In Greece, some yogurt has 18 or even 20% fat. 10% is more than enough for me. After using it for a while, I can't go back to the non-fat or even low-fat stuff. The texture is all wrong and they taste comparitively bitter.

                  1. re: 1sweetpea
                    coll Aug 29, 2013 10:17 AM

                    Fage used to be so good when it came from Greece to us here in NY. Now, eh, not so much, even though it is made locally. Better than Dannon though!

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                      coll Sep 8, 2013 05:49 AM

                      I take it back: I just brought some gyros to a party, and made my tzatziki sauce with what I had on hand: one Fage Total 6 oz and two Chobani, either 0 or 1% fat, 5 oz. It seemed so thick to me, even though it was only 1/3 of the full fat, but people were raving that it was the best they ever tasted, because it was so rich. I came home and made a note on my recipe card!

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            HillJ Sep 6, 2013 06:36 AM

            In NJ I can buy full fat Fage at A&P and Super ShopRite. It's easy to miss the difference in labeling. TOTAL only says total on the container.

            Also, I tend to ask the Dairy case Mgr for assistance whenever I don't see something in case the crew hasn't unpacked product from back to front yet.

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              coll Sep 8, 2013 05:53 AM

              Oh I can get it here easily enough. I didn't realize this was about Canada, and am surprised there are so many different great brands I never heard of here.

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            Hausmanis Aug 27, 2013 02:03 PM

            Loblaws PC Greek Yoghurt carries a 9% variety which should satisfy your needs.

            1. Nevy Aug 27, 2013 05:21 PM

              Costco and Michaelangelo carries the 10% Skotidatkis and it's very delicious!

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                Pigurd Aug 27, 2013 05:36 PM

                which costco is this? ive only seen the kirkland brand and libertie...

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                  Nevy Aug 28, 2013 12:08 PM

                  Mississauga South just got them in last week. I believe they are 6.98 for 2 large sized containers

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                    1sweetpea Aug 28, 2013 03:09 PM

                    Hmm. That's news to me too. I'll have to poke around in Windsor and Peterborough, where I'm most likely to hit Costco.

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                  Flexitarian Sep 3, 2013 10:23 AM

                  Costco carries the 9% Skotidakis Plain Yogurt. There is no 10% Skotidakis, but there is a 0% and a 2% that Costco does not sell.

                  I think the 9% Skotidakis Plain Yogurt is the best there is. I had never seen it at Costco until last week when I saw 2 x 500g packs at the BIlly BIshop Costco (North of Yorkdale). I hope they keep selling it and it was not a one-time thing. They have been selling packages of the one-serve Skotidakis with fruit but I prefer to add my own fresh fruit as the 'fruit' they add is basically jam with tons of sugar in it.

                  Up until now I have been buying the 3 x 500g of 0% Plain Greek Yogurt at Costco as that is the only one they were offering before but it is no match for Skotidakis, party because it is 0% but mainly because of the formulation.

                  1. re: Flexitarian
                    1sweetpea Sep 6, 2013 05:41 AM

                    I am on it! I will check out my Costco in Windsor. I have the 2% and the 9% (both Greek style) PC yogurts in my fridge, but haven't taste tested either yet.

                    1. re: Flexitarian
                      Chester Eleganté Oct 9, 2013 11:50 AM

                      As far as I know, Costco has stopped carrying the Skotidakis 9%. Meanwhile, people keep buying up the much inferior 0% like mad, esp. the fruit pack ones. What can you do.

                      I've seen the 9% at Yummy, Whole Foods, and Highland Farms.

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                        Flexitarian Oct 9, 2013 12:09 PM

                        I thought so too when I went last week to the North York Billy Bishop Way store as I could not find it. But I kept looking and found that they changed the packaging from shrink wrapped plastic to a paper cover, so it looked different. It has the same two tubs inside, for $6.99. It was also in a different area of the cooler.

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                          Nevy Oct 9, 2013 12:23 PM

                          It's still available at the Mississauga South and Etobicoke site!

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                            Chester Eleganté Oct 9, 2013 12:32 PM

                            That's good, as I didn't see it in Markham. But I mentioned this cuz when I asked Skotidakis they said they were no longer shipping to Costco, so perhaps whatever's left is all there is. We'll see soon enough.

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                              Flexitarian Oct 9, 2013 03:05 PM

                              Odd they said they are no longer shipping to Costco yet there is new packaging. I can't imagine they changed the packaging because they ship these 2-packs to someone else.

                              Did they specifically say it was the 9% they were no longer shipping as they certainly are still shipping all of their other products.

                          2. re: Chester Eleganté
                            Flexitarian Oct 16, 2013 11:27 AM

                            Went again to the North York Billy Bishop Costco last Friday and they had a whole new batch of the Skotidakis 9% plain yoghurt, both in plastic and in paper packaging.

                            It can't be true that they are no longer shipping to Costco as this was a new batch.

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                              Flexitarian Nov 10, 2013 05:07 AM

                              Well it looks like it is true. I went to the North York Costco on Billy Bishop Way yesterday and they no longer have Skotidakis 9% plain yogurt. arghhh. Odd that they only carried it for a couple months. All they have now is that comparatively watery Libertr 0% plain yogurt.

                              1. re: Flexitarian
                                Nevy Nov 10, 2013 05:09 AM

                                If you're willing to trek to the west end, they still have a healthy stash of the Skoti 9% at the Etobicoke Islington.

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                        ER2 Aug 27, 2013 07:57 PM

                        When out shopping earlier today, I checked a couple of my local stores. My local Pusateri's at Bay and Yorkville carries 500g tubs of 9% Skotidakis Greek yogurt and The Bloor Street Market in the basement of ManuLife at Bay and Bloor carries 500g tubs of PC 9% Greek yogurt though that one is manufactured here.

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                          lilaki Aug 28, 2013 12:21 PM

                          i'm with you! i'm having the darndest time finding the liberte mediterrane 10% MF PLAIN yogurt.

                          i actually want plain, fatty yogurt ... but NOT the greek yogurt. my toddler laps up yogurt (and he's awfully skinny) ...but he finds the greek yogurt too thick for his liking.

                          i checked the liberte website and it's still listed (along with a whole bunch of other 'new' flavours like caramel). http://www.liberte.ca/en/yogurt-medit...

                          i used to buy this at longos and two stores told me the product has been discontinued.

                          for now, i'm using the astro 6% balkan stuff.

                          sigh.

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                            canmark Aug 28, 2013 02:48 PM

                            I bought Liberté Méditérranée yogurt (in the new clear tub) just today at the Loblaws in Markham. It says it's 9.4% M.F. (the coconut flavour). I've also seen Liberté Méditérranée at Whole Foods.

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                              1sweetpea Aug 28, 2013 03:11 PM

                              My issue is not that I can't find the 9% Liberte yogurts, but that they are all flavoured. They are pretty awesome, when you're seeking a dessert and yogut in one. I just want the plain, 10% Greek style.

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                                Nevy Aug 29, 2013 04:25 AM

                                Have you checked out Adonis? They have lots of plain yogurt that range from 2% fat and 8%. There might be a 12% and 10% one if I remember correctly.

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                              lilaki Aug 29, 2013 07:26 AM

                              i've emailed Liberte ... will see what they have to say and will post back with any info i get.

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                                lilaki Aug 29, 2013 09:36 AM

                                so apparently this is an issue in toronto (shortage of mediterrane plain). the customer service person who emailed me back advised me to speak to someone at foodland or sobeys ... they could order some in.

                                it's not really feasible for me to go to the store, place and order, and pick it up when it arrives.

                                maybe it will help others.

                                in the meantime ... i guess the search continues.

                                i'm going to speak to the manager at my local longos ... he was always very willing to bring in products that i flagged to his attention.

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                                  1sweetpea Aug 29, 2013 09:42 AM

                                  Wow. A shortage of mediterrane plain yogurt! How interesting. Thanks for doing that legwork, Lilaki! I just (wrongly) assumed that fully stocked shelves with the assorted flavours meant that the stores were just re-ordering according to sales trends and that the plain wasn't popular enough to stock, despite the fact that I buy it regularly.

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                                    lilaki Aug 29, 2013 12:16 PM

                                    well, i think it IS entirely likely that certain stores are no longer ordering it because they had to make room for mediterrane caramel (and other flavours).

                                    the customer service person said "It seems difficult to find this product in Toronto" but she didn't say why.

                                    she recommended ordering from sobeys/foodland. and she also recommended checking out an independent grocer like pusateri's. the bruno's in etobicoke used to carry it so i might have to go there.

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                                      1sweetpea Sep 6, 2013 05:44 AM

                                      All fine and good in the GTA, but what about the rest of the province? I can certainly go to my Eastern European specialty store in Windsor and pick up a handful of the brands mentioned in this thread, but it's irritating that the big name stores: Zehrs (Loblaws), Metro, Sobeys have entire walls of yogurts, including the Liberte, just can't make room for the 10% plain.

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                              youdonut Aug 28, 2013 12:52 PM

                              I was at the Metro store in cloverdale mall today, they carry "The Geek Gods" yogurt which is 10%

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                                Vinnie Vidimangi Aug 29, 2013 01:35 PM

                                Try MC ( thats right, MC) brand Maslanka or Huslanka, which is 3.2 % . My first choice. At any store that caters
                                to Poles or Russians.

                                Liberte (big numbers) was so good when I would try it some years ago that I was afraid of it so I took a vow of abstinence.

                                What don't you like about Astro? After Dannnon..........

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                                  DDD Aug 29, 2013 08:27 PM

                                  I also find the Greek gods version in metro and in the states, as well whole foods carries Krema which is also around 10% and quite tasty.

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                                    1sweetpea Sep 6, 2013 05:58 AM

                                    The thing about the Liberte 10% is that it is the drained, Greek style. Astro is not Greek style. To achieve the same thickness, I have to drain the whey, which is an extra step which doesn't always work. If the yogurt isn't set, all of it will drain through my Donvier yogurt strainer. The Astro yogurt can also be a touch sour, which I don't care for.

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                                    lilaki Sep 1, 2013 06:05 PM

                                    woohoo! found a HUGE container of mediterrane PLAIN @ the longos on winston churchill in mississauga. and it was in the new packaging. fingers crossed that it will be at the other longos soon.

                                    1. nokitchen Sep 1, 2013 06:46 PM

                                      I don't know the fat percentage, but I'll note that homemade yogurts normally drain quite nicely into a Greek style, you can control the sourness with how long and how hot you ferment it and you get some yummy whey for breads or pizza doughs as a bonus.

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                                        Vinnie Vidimangi Sep 1, 2013 07:59 PM

                                        My heart softens when I see your posts . "Sweetpea" was my nom de exam in first year graduate school. Maybe "weakens" is more accurate. My head softened long ago without help.

                                        It occurs to me that what this Greek yoghurt is is labneh, which is available in any Arab store and probably for less. Not all labnehs are alike.

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                                          lilaki Sep 2, 2013 06:27 PM

                                          spotted the plain mediterrane at whole foods mississauga this morning in the original packaging. so, i guess it's still available in select stores.

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                                            LNahid2000 Sep 3, 2013 06:55 PM

                                            I saw 11% Krema plain greek yogurt at Rabba today.

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                                              urbnmns Sep 5, 2013 06:52 PM

                                              I know it's not the 10% Liberte (which is hard to top!) but we've been enjoying Phoenikia lately, from the Bayyview and Eg Metro. Not as rich, but pretty creamy for the fat content (I've been buying 3.5% and 2%). My fam likes it plain, as a side-dish/condiment for rice and tomato-based stews.

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                                                sman Sep 6, 2013 05:24 AM

                                                Whole Foods on Avenue carries the Liberte Mediterranee Plain 10%. I'm not sure in which end of the city you are but maybe the Mississauga location also carries it.

                                                 
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                                                  Nevy Sep 6, 2013 10:19 AM

                                                  I just spotted this in the new packaging at Highland farms Mississauga

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                                                    Chester Eleganté Sep 7, 2013 09:31 AM

                                                    Adonis also has the 750ml in the new packaging. Reesor's (thornhill) and Herbs & Nutrition (bloor & bathurst) still have it in the old. Would hope that it's not an issue of only the larger size being available here, as other stores still haven't gotten it in yet. The new lime flavour does look good though.

                                                2. Flexitarian Nov 13, 2013 09:01 AM

                                                  I called Costco Customer service at the head office in Ottawa (1-800-463-3783) and they told me that Skotidakis 9% MF Plain Greek Yogurt will no longer be carried when existing supplies run out at Etobicoke & Mississauga, which are the only 2 stores that still have any stock. They also told me that the availability of product brands is dependent upon demand at the store, not chain, level. So, if a product does not meet their sales requirements at a store then that store stops carrying it. They told me the Etobicoke store only sold 2 packages of that yogurt last week! Anyway, they'll sell more this week as I am heading over to by 6 of them (the best before date is far in the future), but that of course will not result in them deciding to carry it again.

                                                  Also, they told me that for product suggestions that there is a big white box on the wall as you leave the store (in hundreds of visits over the past 10 years I have never seen it). I am going to ask them to carry wild shrimp.

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