HOME > Chowhound > Quebec (inc. Montreal) >
What have you made lately? Share your food adventure
TELL US

Porter beer

kpzoo Aug 26, 2013 03:06 PM

I have a chili recipe I'd like to try that calls for a "porter style" beer. Is this something I could find easily in Montreal without having to make a trip to a specialty store? Any brand I could look look for at a dep or even an SAQ?

p.s. I know nothing about beer. ;-)

Thanks!

  1. ScoobySnacks20 Aug 27, 2013 07:17 AM

    In addtion to the St-Ambroise oatmeal stout, Boréale Noire is available in most locations. Both make a great substitute as it is denser than a Guinness and this closer to a Porter.

    Porters tend to be a little sweeter than Stouts so just add a little maple syrup to the recipe for a perfect match.

    7 Replies
    1. re: ScoobySnacks20
      m
      Mr F Aug 27, 2013 07:40 AM

      Good advice -- a slight adjustment for sweetness should do the trick if the chili doesn't seem quite right.

      Haven't had a Boreale Noire lately, but I remember it being on the sweet side (like most Boreale brews), so I'd make less of an adjustment for sweetness vs. St. A.

      1. re: Mr F
        s
        Shattered Aug 29, 2013 03:45 AM

        Yes, it's sweet. A pretty mediocre excuse for stout, imo, but i guess it would be okay for cooking with.

        1. re: Shattered
          m
          Mr F Aug 29, 2013 08:36 AM

          I think you could say the same for most or all Boréale brews. I've tried some recently (like the IPA) that suggest they've stepped up their game a little, but it's still a bottom-tier microbrewery IMO.

          1. re: Mr F
            c
            catroast Aug 29, 2013 08:51 AM

            Boreal 25 ans is very good imo - too bad it is a limited edition, it should be part of the regular line up.

      2. re: ScoobySnacks20
        kpzoo Aug 27, 2013 10:21 AM

        Great, thanks for the tips!

        1. re: kpzoo
          m
          Mr F Aug 27, 2013 11:02 AM

          You might also come across a Labatt porter (used to be called Velvet Cream but apparently has been rebranded as Brewers Collection Porter). Probably not a very good drink by today's standards, but should be adequate for cooking.

          1. re: Mr F
            kpzoo Aug 27, 2013 12:46 PM

            I'll keep my eyes out for it.

            So many options now - thanks, everyone!

      3. NanaMoussecurry Aug 26, 2013 06:03 PM

        For a chili recipe I would bet on a crazy-good stout like Dieu du Ciel's Péché Mortel, it has coffee notes, it would rock
        Available at IGA, not cheap tho

        3 Replies
        1. re: NanaMoussecurry
          cherylmtl Aug 27, 2013 01:25 PM

          Isn't that a very high alcohol beer? The alcohol will, of course, cook out, but still, it seems like a waste to use it to cook.

          1. re: cherylmtl
            NanaMoussecurry Aug 27, 2013 02:46 PM

            yeah but I doubt you'd use more than a couple to cook chili with - the rest of the 6pack you drink

            1. re: cherylmtl
              m
              Mr F Aug 28, 2013 09:22 AM

              I tried a bottle last night. Very good, and not extremely high-alcohol: 5.5%.

              Probably wouldn't want to cook with it, though. Bit of a waste; better to go with a cheaper option like Boréale noire.

              I also saw yet another option in the store: Rickard's Dark, a "porter-style" beer. I would have extremely low expectations of this as a drink, but again it might be suitable for cooking. (Edit: after reading a few reviews, I'd be wary of even letting it in the door.)

          2. l
            lagatta Aug 26, 2013 05:30 PM

            I'm not a beer expert either, and was wondering if there is really much of a difference between porter and stout. One response (there is a difference, but probably not enough to affect using them in food). http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-di...

            I often use a bottle of St-Ambroise Oatmeal Stout in recipes, and it has always met with approval. Perhaps others will say that is a travesty here. It is a good local beer, and not expensive.

            2 Replies
            1. re: lagatta
              k
              kpaxonite Aug 26, 2013 05:38 PM

              Their oatmeal stout is great. I dont find much of a difference between porters and stouts... my brother is a microbrewer but works out of ottawa now unfortunately. I find stouts are more likely to have additional flavours added (during the brewing) like coffee or chocolate but I could be wrong.

              The oatmeal stout and the london porter are pretty much the same price because london porter is 3.75/500ml and the stout (Im guessing) is 3-3.25/350ml. Porters and stouts are generally the most expensive type of beer because of the ingredients.

              I have added stout to stews before and it was great. I imagine some strong trapiste ale would be good too.

              1. re: kpaxonite
                kpzoo Aug 26, 2013 07:32 PM

                Thanks lagatta, kpaxonite and NanaMoussecurry - I'll keep stout in mind as an alternative beer.

            2. k
              kpaxonite Aug 26, 2013 03:23 PM

              http://beeradvocate.com/beer/prPorofile/71/221

              http://www.saq.com/page/fr/saqcom/bie...

              London Porter is really good. Its available at many SAQs for about 4 dollars.

              2 Replies
              1. re: kpaxonite
                kpzoo Aug 26, 2013 04:18 PM

                Thanks a ton! That looks great except it makes for an expensive chili since I need a couple of bottles. ;-) Will ponder!

                1. re: kpzoo
                  s
                  Shattered Aug 29, 2013 03:40 AM

                  Worth it. It's amazing, as are all Fuller's beers.

              2. m
                mamaleh Aug 26, 2013 03:14 PM

                Sleemans Fine Porter or Mill St. Guiness Draught would probably do the trick as well.

                10 Replies
                1. re: mamaleh
                  c
                  catroast Aug 26, 2013 03:56 PM

                  and where do you get mill st in montreal?

                  1. re: catroast
                    m
                    mamaleh Aug 26, 2013 05:51 PM

                    Oops. You might have to pick up the Mill St. in Ottawa.

                    1. re: mamaleh
                      l
                      lagatta Aug 26, 2013 06:46 PM

                      I thought it was made in Toronto. There are a lot of Mill Streets (and rues du Moulin).

                      We have a Mill Street too, but it isn't from there.

                      1. re: lagatta
                        m
                        mamaleh Aug 26, 2013 07:24 PM

                        Mill St. has a pub in Ottawa as well. Their beer is also available at some Beer Store locations in Ontario.

                        1. re: lagatta
                          c
                          catroast Aug 26, 2013 07:40 PM

                          it is from toronto and i dont think there is any quebec brewery called mill street. prove me wrong.

                          1. re: catroast
                            l
                            lagatta Aug 26, 2013 07:45 PM

                            I don't believe there is any Quebec brewery named Mill or Mill Street, despite the street's southwest industrial origins - the question is whether the Toronto brewery and the Ottawa pub are related. But you can check the LCBO site for where that beer can be found in Ontario.

                            1. re: lagatta
                              m
                              mamaleh Aug 26, 2013 08:43 PM

                              To clarify:
                              Mill St. is from Toronto. They also have a pub location in Ottawa which is the same Mill St. from Toronto (see their website http://millstreetbrewery.com/#/brewpub) where you can purchase their beer.
                              Their beers are available at some Beer Store and LCBO locations.
                              Mill St. does not have a brewery or pub in Quebec.

                            2. re: catroast
                              m
                              meagain Aug 26, 2013 08:36 PM

                              The poster about Mill st brand porter posted about their error hours before your post. Good idea to read through.

                      2. re: mamaleh
                        s
                        Shattered Aug 29, 2013 03:41 AM

                        First I've heard of a Sleeman porter. Where can you get that?

                        A shame we can't get Mill Street here, they're very good beers.

                        1. re: Shattered
                          c
                          catroast Aug 29, 2013 04:53 AM

                          i've seen sleeman porter at many deps
                          just keep your eyes open

                      Show Hidden Posts