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Aug 22, 2013 02:10 PM

Orleans & York

Wonderful - simply wonderful

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  1. I wish they used better bread for their Po' Boys and their fries are AWFUL... but their Fried Shrimp and Fried Catfish is WONDERFUL... And their housemade Hot Sauce is like CRACK. I also really liked their Hogies (The bread works much better with those). The prices for the size and quality is great!


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    1. re: Dommy

      I've got to say, the bread out here in LA has been my main complaint of ALL things ever since I moved here almost 20 years ago. For whatever reason, I have never had bread out here that is as good as what is in New England, and NOLA, for that matter. Even La Brea bakery, which is probably the best we can get, is just okay, IMHO.

      1. re: Dirtywextraolives

        Thanks for saying that.

        I also have never gotten the deal about what was so special about LaBrea Bakery, but then again I'm not a fan of the stuff going on at pizzeria mozza either.

        1. re: kevin

          It's been bugging me since I moved here..... And yes, I don't know what is up with La Brea bakery! I made Bahn mis for lunch yesterday, and picked up what was labeled as a French baguette by la Brea bakery at my local Gelson's. it was the antithesis of a baguette...the crust was hard, but not in the way a baguette is supposed to be. The interior was waaay too doughy, bready and dense. I swear the only decent bread in this town is at bay cities.... Everything else is either sourdough, which I get tired of, or just plain junk.

        2. re: Dirtywextraolives

          the baguette at church and state is outstanding.

          1. re: linus

            Try the different loaves available at Maison du Pain. I think they're all better than those at LBB.

            1. re: CLowe

              I will, are they sold retail? Or is it a restaurant?

              1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                It it a retail bakery on Pico 1 block East of Hauser. FYI. The City is adding medians to that block this week so it may be a pain to get there till the construction is done in about a week.

                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                  Thanks to Matta for posting the info.

        3. What did you have that was so wonderful??

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          1. re: Dirtywextraolives

            The fried shrimp po-boy with the hot sauce that Dommy described as being like crack, and I'm not much of a hot/spicy food fan. I was standing in line with a couple from Philli and they went on and on about the phili steak sandwich - that's what I'll try next time.

              1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                Do and please report back. I really enjoy giving props to places that are doing it right. It seem to be a family run businss.

                They all work hard and seem to love quality. My impression is that the family is of Cubin decent - I could be wrong. Not that that matters to me, but I remember reading a while back that Cubins are one of the most sucessful, hardest working immagrant (sp) groups in the US. Whatever - I found all of the family members that I encounter to be charming.

                They turn out a great product with quality and pride.

              2. re: engie

                To summarize: it's a Nawlins joints that serves "Phili" cheese steaks, as well as NY style "HEROS"?

                1. re: TonyC

                  Their name says it all Orleans & York, I suppose they're alluding to New Orleans and New York.. So I think they serve specialties from both regions. Anyway, again here is they're web site

                  Happy eating


                  1. re: TonyC

                    I wouldn't call it a joint. More like a Deli trying to figure out an angle to beat Mikes. I still love Mikes (That chicken salad of my dreams!) but It's just a sandwich. So more often than not, I now drive past it and hit O&Y for a Po'Boy for some fix of that sauce that I'm sure if made out 20 terrible things but is SO good...

                    BTW, Mikes is a Boar's Head house. O&Y is Dietz & Watson


                    1. re: Dommy

                      Have you tried the muffuletta? I am hoping they serve it on the right, round Sicilian bread with the right sort of piquant olive salad. The variations on the theme the menu offers worry me, though.

                      1. re: New Trial

                        Not exactly... I've tried the olive salad which sadly was meh. It was too greasy without a good olive flavor... Like they chopped up canned olives and marinaded them in soy bean oil. It needed oregano, a little acid from the peppers...


                        1. re: Dommy

                          Alas! Thank you for the heads-up.

                        2. re: New Trial

                          Clearly not the "right" bread.
                          OTH, under the highly unlikely scenario that Dommy! is wrong and the Olive Salad works, I would eat that thing...

                          1. re: Ciao Bob

                            Yes, if that's what they are serving it on, it is not a true muffuletta, just a gussied up Italian hoagie.

                            1. re: Ciao Bob

                              Never wise to have a muffeletta in LA a week after having one in La but I had the time, and the desire, to try O&Y today.
                              It is actually a Frenchuletta (Liuzza's term) since it is served on French bread. Decent homemade bread, an OK olive salad with decent cold cuts. Nothing that would pass the mustard in NOLA but serviceable here, I guess.
                              My Father had the Ms. Rachel (a hot, but non-grilled, Reuben of sorts). Also good. My Step-Mom had chicken tenders - nothing special - dry-poorly seasoned white meat Fried Chicken But it had that hot sauce and that was good. I think it is just a buffalo wing type butter sauce. Def want to go back and try the Gumbo Mumbo, Catfish and Fried Shrimp Po'Boys.

                              They have an "off menu" shrimp dish - you can see the pics on Yelp - that I was hoping might be a NOLA style BBQ shrimp but sadly it is not NOLA BBQ shrimp at all, so I did not try it. It is their own dish called "Inspiration Shrimp." the woman at the counter told me it is great.

                              1. re: Ciao Bob

                                Hmmm, I may have to try that off the menu shrimp dish.

                              2. re: Ciao Bob

                                Their special "house hot sauce" to my taste buds felt like it was merely Red Rooster (which they have bottles of on the side counter) with drawn butter or just oil inflected with bits of black pepper.

                              3. re: New Trial

                                It does say it has the olive salad on it.....

                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                  Sadly, per Dommy's report, not the right sort of olive salad, though.

                                  1. re: New Trial

                                    I'm sure that is something they probably make when they need it. It's very easy, just whir some giardinera with some pimiento stuffed green olives in a food processor until chopped. I'll wait until I taste it before I judge.

                              4. re: Dommy

                                Maybe one of the tipping points is the meat supplier. I'm not a big Boar's Head fan. But it's more than that, the folks at O&Y just out do most places in all of the categories that matter. Great food, nice atmosphere, good service, the whole nine yards. I can't compare the two since I've never been to Mikes.

                                It was funny, the day I was there some of the customers were having a conversation and Mike's came up, without missing a beat, one of the daughters said 'we don't speak his name in here.' LOL

                                  1. re: Ciao Bob

                                    Gotta believe it's and that photo of their Reuben is enough to make me jump in my car and head over there, right this damn minute! (g)

                                      1. re: Servorg

                                        The Ruben is okay... but THIS is the reason to go to mikes...


                                        Super Chunky Chicken Salad...

                                        We also get it by the pint and then eat it Lobster Roll style with King Hawaiian Hot Dog Buns at Home. OMG.

                                        The one thing I don't like about Mikes is that they don't do wraps!! ugh. Their salads are also over priced and meh. Sandwiches are the way to go at Mike's

                                        Mike's is a Windsor Hills insititution (And literally two blocks away from O&Y. But they also are in Little Tokyo, great option for a quick lunch in the area...


                                        1. re: Dommy

                                          I saw Mike's also but was on a mission.... I will get some chicken salad to go next time, thanks!

                          2. Ok, finally got over there today, and had the fried catfish po boy. It was delicious! I haven't had a fried catfish po boy in ages, and last time I've had one it been blackened. But the fish was beautifully crusted in a crispy but non greasy coating, full of peppery flavor. They give you a very generous portion, and. The bread was very decent and fresh, better than I was expecting. With the cool lettuce, tomato & mayo, the crispy, hot fish and that spicy hot sauce (Dommy, you were so right, I could drink that stuff!) it all worked perfectly! I couldn't stop eating it, it was so good, and I ate the whole huge thing! This will now be my go to lunch spot when I shop at Target. It's worth the drive, and I can't wait to try the fried shrimp, oysters and muffulettas. Thanks again for the rec, engie, great call!

                            1. Has anybody tried the oyster po' boy?

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                              1. re: wienermobile

                                I have. :)

                                It was good, though the breading was incorrect. I'm curious as to whether they use a different breading depending on whether its catfish or oysters.

                                1. re: kevin

                                  I'll have to go by soon and check it out.....

                              2. Just tried it for the 1st time (it's near my work) - pleasant surprise. Fried shrimp po'boy was excellent. And agree w/ Dommy on that hot sauuuuuce as well (is there butter in it?).

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                                1. re: chrishei

                                  There's gotta be some butter in there.

                                  1. re: kevin

                                    Forgot that legit creole hot sauce has butter, and theirs has LOTS.

                                    1. re: chrishei

                                      It tastes like red rooster doctored with mucho butter to me.

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        Probably, but that's fine by me lol.

                                    2. re: kevin

                                      There's gotta be some crack in there.....