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nyperr Aug 20, 2013 02:33 PM

I'm a New Yorker going to Minneapolis for the first time. Normally my travels take me internationally so I'm looking for restaurants where the chef's use fresh local ingredients with a local flavor somewhat creatively. Looking for interesting LOCAL food thats well crafted - no chains and no Mexican or Asian. I've also Heard that there is a "nouveau Scandanavian" movement there too, that I'd like to try.

Here is the list I've culled from chowhound and other digging on the internet. We only have 4 to maybe 5 dinners to narrow down to. No time for breakfast or lunch.

Love your advice! Thanks

The Bachelor Farmer
Union
112 Eatery
Alma
Corner Table
Sea Change
Butcher & The Boar

  1. chartreauxx Sep 8, 2013 11:10 PM

    a lot of "local" minneapolis/saint paul flavor these days actually IS asian and african - the twin cities have one of the highest concentrations of hmong and ethiopian residents in the usa.

    just a thought.

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      JOHN45 Oct 26, 2013 08:08 AM

      Bingo!

      We're also rich with Somali and they have their own gated in set of shops behind the walgreens on lake street about three lights weast of I-35.

      I so disagree with chillywilly's comment about the seafood being fresh. Try Shu an g CH e n g (that should be ONE word, excuse the aggressive spell check! ).

      Anyway, Lobsters can be reasonably had and picked live ribut out of their tank plus the yfellow pages in their ad they claim they fly in fresh seafood daily, as per law this far in land its eeither that or frzen and rthawed.

      John45

      I know the author has came and went but this is for anyone else who reads the thread later.

      S C is in dink town... 4th & University or thhereabouts.

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        ChillyDog Oct 27, 2013 12:53 AM

        If you are referring to me, I said SEAFOOD is not local. That's not a judgement. It's a statement of fact. Minnesota is not near the sea. I didn't say anything about freshness.

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      shoo bee doo Aug 22, 2013 04:16 PM

      Someone mentioned Vietnamese as unique to the Twin Cities, but not NYC. Worthy of mentioning is Ngon, a second-generation, upscale Vietnamese restaurant. The pho alone makes me swoon.

      http://ngonbistro.com/

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        The Dairy Queen Aug 29, 2013 09:39 PM

        Ngon is undergoing a remodeling. They are supposed to be wrapped up by the time the OP is there, but if I were the OP, I'd still call the restaurant before heading over there.

        ~TDQ

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          Brad Ballinger Aug 29, 2013 11:53 PM

          OP specified no Asian.

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        nyperr Aug 21, 2013 03:42 PM

        I just found out that I will only have time for three dinners! Seems like Alma is on almost every list...which means only 2 others. I'm going to have the opportunity for only ONE lunch and I was thinking of making it Fika.

        Any suggestions to help me decide which of these to eliminate?

        The Bachelor Farmer
        Butcher & The Boar
        Piccolo
        Bar La Grassa

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          ChillyDog Aug 21, 2013 04:34 PM

          Fika is an excellent choice for lunch. If the weather is good, get a table in the courtyard.

          Word of warning, if you decide on TBF make your reservation as soon as possible.

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            Jordan Aug 21, 2013 06:12 PM

            For high-end, fine dining, I would pick La Belle Vie over Alma.

            Of the others on the list, if you're wanting something distinctive to Minnesota, my top choices would be Saffron and one that hasn't come up yet on your list -- Haute Dish. Tongue-in-cheek, reimagined versions of staid Midwestern cuisine.

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              parkermsp Aug 22, 2013 07:40 AM

              Agree about Haute Dish. Ate here last night for the second time---best burger in the city right now; Tater Tot Haute Dish was fantastic, and the BBQ Pork x3 could feed three by itself. This to me is the most Minnesotan restaurant I've yet encountered, though with the heavier fare I'm not sure how they were quite as busy as they were last night, what with the 93 degrees out. Caloric-wise, it's basically Fair food served with high technique and panache: a great combo, in my opinion.

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              Brad Ballinger Aug 21, 2013 07:46 PM

              Eliminate Bar La Grassa. It's very good, but doesn't fit the description of what you wrote you wanted. Butcher and the Boar is all about meat and brown liquor. It's good charcuterie and sausage, but you can probably get that easily enough back in New York.

              There are better places to eat than Bachelor Farmer, but
              I'd leave it on the list because you wanted a Scandinavian vibe. If you were able to do lunch, I'd send you to Fika for the Scandinavian requirement, and knock BF off your short list.

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                Foureyes137 Aug 22, 2013 06:34 AM

                You can probably remove BLG. It's funny, several of my favorites from BLG are either inspired by or lifted directly from the dishes we've had @ Spotted Pig (ricotta gnudi, nduja w/egg, mushroom agnilloti), so you can certainly get that where you are.

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                  Db Cooper Aug 22, 2013 07:29 AM

                  The one I'd keep on there is Piccolo. The other three aren't in the same league for the reasons listed by other posters.

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                    nyperr Aug 22, 2013 12:43 PM

                    From what I'm getting, I'll skip Bachelor Farmer. OK, I'll do Alma and Piccolo. Don't want to do La Belle Vie because it sounds like white tablecloth French and I do go to Paris fairly frequently. For the last dinner, do I do Butcher & The Boar or Sea Change?

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                      Brad Ballinger Aug 22, 2013 12:58 PM

                      Butcher. You get better seafood in New York (go to Marea).

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                        Db Cooper Aug 22, 2013 01:57 PM

                        I'd tell you neither. You'll get better steaks and/or seafood in NYC. If you told me I had to pick, I'd go with Sea Change. I think you can get charcuterie in NYC and brown liquor is available anywhere. Butcher and the Boar is really just a suburban steakhouse downtown.

                        Based on your original requirements, I think Haute Dish is what you after as Jordan and Parkermsp mentioned above. I don't think you are going to find anything like it in NYC. It's a very uniquely MN restaurant. It takes old casserole and other standard midwestern traditional dinners and dresses them up with top notch ingredients. Tater-Tot Haute Dish is his signature. Short Ribs, green beans, and tater tots, topped with a sauce accented by porcini mushrooms. Here's a link to the website.
                        http://haute-dish.com/

                        If you really, really want something you aren't going to find back home, this is your best bet.

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                          Seige Aug 29, 2013 11:49 AM

                          DB and I are totally on the same wavelength today. You won't get more local Minnesotan than a cheeky play on tater tot hot dish. And it's damn good to boot!

                          I think Fika, Piccolo, Alma and Haute Dish will give you a really well-rounded look at what MSP has to offer. But honestly - all of the places you were thinking of, with the exception of Union, are really good.

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                        Jordan Aug 22, 2013 02:32 PM

                        La Belle Vie is more white tablecloth modernized pan-Mediterranean, but it's your call. In terms of quality and creativity, it's a level above anything else on your list.

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                          mitch cumstein Aug 23, 2013 08:17 AM

                          I usually like the dessert a lot at LBV, and they sure do have a prettier package than anywhere in town, but I don't think the food is ever really that exciting. If piccolo were in the LBV space, it would be a whole different ballgame.

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                          Foureyes137 Aug 23, 2013 07:18 AM

                          Butcher.

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                            nyperr Aug 27, 2013 02:50 AM

                            OK...I've narrowed it down to Alma, Piccolo and Butcher

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                              ChancesR Aug 27, 2013 05:16 AM

                              You've picked 3 entirely different places. Butcher is a loud frat-house of a place. Alma is dark with a studied, almost intense focus on Food. Piccolo is a lower-key neighborhood-like spot.

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                                LauraB Aug 27, 2013 06:04 AM

                                Sounds like a good mix to me. I hope you have a fabulous trip. I would recommend the suggested tasting menu options at Alma and Piccolo (or at Piccolo put together your own tasting menu of the same number of dishes that sound the best if two from one menu section sound more amazing than from another section). I think trying more than just two or three courses is part of what I love about both Alma and Piccolo. At Butcher and the Boar, my favorite things that I have tried are the cured meats/sausages and the grilled oysters.

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                        ChillyDog Aug 21, 2013 03:21 PM

                        "Looking for interesting LOCAL food thats well crafted"

                        Lucia's has been doing this well for decades; long before it was trendy.

                        Please avoid Union; you can do so much better. Sea Change emphasizes sustainable but SEAfood is not local in MN.

                        Saffron is worth your consideration. I also endorse adding Piccolo and Tilia.

                        The new Travail is supposedly open the end of September but that will be crazy busy. Maybe next time.

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                          JimGrinsfelder Aug 21, 2013 08:36 AM

                          Alma, Piccolo & La Belle Vie are my top 3.

                          I'd consider 112 or Bachelor Farmer as 4th or 5th. I don't think 5 dinners in a row at restaurants like these is the way to go.

                          I'd recommend two, maybe three high-end places. Then I'd mix in a trip to one of the park shacks like Sea Salt or Sand Castle or Bread & Pickle on a nice evening.

                          And I'd stop at someplace like Wise Acres or Birchwood to get a little taste of lighter fare (to be fare, you can usually eat pretty healthy at Alma).

                          And frankly, I'd go to a Vietnamese place because the Twin Cities quite possibly has more better Vietnamese than NYC.

                          If you want Scandinavian, nothing here is as good as Aquavit in NYC used to be, but you've got Bachelor Farmer and Fika and Swede Hollow and Finn Bistro in St. Anthony Park.

                          1. Foureyes137 Aug 21, 2013 08:33 AM

                            You've got it, but I'll ape what everyone else has noted: You are missing Piccolo. Additionally, nouveau Scandanavian isn't really a thing, at least not here. If you were to compare, say, Aquavit to Bachelor Farmer you would note a marked difference in how "scandanavian" the latter is. Still good though. And pretty.

                            Same suggestion with nixing Union unless you are looking for some company overnight one night.

                            Alma, La Belle Vie, Piccolo, Butcher & The Boar, Bachelor Farmer, 112 or Burch or Bar LaGrassa...you'll have hit most of our shining points.

                            1. Db Cooper Aug 21, 2013 07:34 AM

                              If I had to pick five, these would be my choices:

                              Restaurant Alma
                              La Belle Vie - Thomas Keller called it "extraordinary"
                              Piccolo
                              Sea Change
                              Borough

                              If the "nouveau Scandanavian" is a must for you, then I'd add in Bachelor Farmer and leave out Sea Change. My thinking behind that is that sea change is seafood/fish focused and since you are from NYC, you probably have pretty good access to that back home. But I really believe Sea Change is a more interesting restaurant. You may want to investigate Bar La Grassa over both of them.

                              I'd for sure leave out Union. It's a great building but my two meals there have been average at best so far and nothing memorable to write home about. 112 is still good, but La Grassa is better.

                              Let us know what you end up deciding upon

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                                Seige Aug 29, 2013 11:43 AM

                                Totally agree - ditch Union. Good for a cocktail on the rooftop, but the food is mediocre at best. There are far better places to go to for a good meal.

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                                Brad Ballinger Aug 20, 2013 07:46 PM

                                From your list, and what you say you are looking for, I'd pick Bachelor Farmer, Alma, and Corner Table. Not on your list, but should be, are Piccolo and Tilia.

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                                  JimGrinsfelder Aug 21, 2013 08:37 AM

                                  Oh yeah, Brad, Tilia's a good add-on. I love that place.

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                                    Db Cooper Aug 21, 2013 09:13 AM

                                    Tillia is great. But be forewarned, it does not take reservations and the waits can be long. If patience isn't a virtue, try it at your own risk.

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                                      bob s Aug 21, 2013 09:26 AM

                                      Or go at an off hour.

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                                  gryffindor249 Aug 20, 2013 06:52 PM

                                  That list is pretty much The Usual Suspects. You might want to try Al's Breakfast for a singular experience. Also, the breakfast at Hell's Kitchen is wonderful. And if you are going to be here before Labor Day, our Minnesota State Fair might blow your mind (provided you are guided to the best vendors).

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                                    nyperr Aug 21, 2013 01:17 PM

                                    Thanks but we'll be there end Sept so will miss your Minnesota State Fair

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