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Manhattan godzilla list (coming to manhattan tomorrow!)

Hello everybody!

I am a fellow chowhounder from Montreal coming to visit your wonderful city tomorrow. I will be staying a full week with a group of friends in a condo near madison square park.

My goal was to make a list large enough to be able to improvise while filtering out places that would not be interesting to me. I deliberately left out supper high end/highbrow restaurants (Jean Georges et al) and I want to try a bit of everything: lowbrow/trashy/delicious to artisanal, kitch to hipster It wasn't a scientific approach and I'll be honest in saying that getting this together was 50% instinct and 50% analysis. I also kinda broke down in the end and had to force myself to stop and bring the list together (so you will all probably have one place you love that won't be there) All in all I will probably try 4-5 bars out of the bar list and 10 to 12 places from the restaurant list.

I won't ask you to filter down the list further but I would be curious to know if any places stand out to you!

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Bar list

Categories:

1-Cocktail & speakeasies
2-Beer
3-Dive bars and atmospherics
4-Tiki & kitch
5-Irish pubs

Cocktail & speakeasies

1-Please Don’t Tell
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/please-dont-te...

2-Death&Company
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/death-and-co-n...

3-The Guthrie Inn
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-guthrie-in...

4-The Russian Vodka Room
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/russian-vodka-...

5-Dutch Kills
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/dutch-kills-lo...

6-The Campbell Appartments
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-campbell-a...

7-King Cole Bar at The St.Regis Hotel
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/king-cole-bar-...

8-Lenox Lounge
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/lenox-lounge-n...

9-Raines Law Room
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/raines-law-roo...

10-Pegu Club
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/pegu-club-new-...

11-Brandy library
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/brandy-library...

12-Silver Lining
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/silver-lining-...

Beer

1-McSorley’s Old Ale House
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/mcsorleys-old-...

2-Pony Bar
http://www.yelp.ca/biz_photos/the-pon...

3-Spuyten Duyvil
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/spuyten-duyvil...

4-PJ Clarke
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/p-j-clarkes-ne...

5-Old Town Bar & Restaurant
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/old-town-bar-a...

Dive Bar & atmospherics (low cost neighborhood

)

1-Barramundi
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/barramundi-new...

2-Johnny’s Bar
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/johnnys-bar-ne...

3-Welcome to the Johnson’s
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/welcome-to-the...

4- Pete’s Candy Store
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/petes-candy-st...

5- The Library
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-library-ne...

6-KGB Bar
http://www.yelp.com/biz/kgb-bar-new-york

7-Revision Lounge & Gallery
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/revision-loung...

8-The Distinguished Wakamba Lounge
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-distinguis...

Tiki & kitch

1-Otto’s shrunken head
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/ottos-shrunken...

2-Zombie Hut
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/zombie-hut-bro...

3-Redhook Bait & Tackle
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/redhook-bait-a...

Irish pub

1-Molly’s

2-Paddy Reilly’s Music Bar
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/paddy-reillys-...

3-Paddy Maguire’s Ale House
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/paddy-maguires...

4-McSwiggan’s bar

Restaurants
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Categories

1-Institutional classics
2-Boutiques and shops
3-Bagel& breakfast
4-Pizza
5-Hotdogs, hamburgers and sandwiches
6-Meat, BBQ and meatballs
7-Italian
8-Asia (no japan
)9-Japan
10-New hipster/faux high-end terroir
11-Quebec in NYC!
12-South america & Mexico
13-Funny & particular
14-Destination

Institutional classics

1- Grand Central Oyster Bar
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/grand-central-...

2.- Keen’s chophouse
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/keens-steakhou...

3. – Katz’s
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/katzs-delicate...

4- Schaller & Weber
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/schaller-and-w...

5- Le Veau d’Or
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/le-veau-d-or-n...

Boutiques & Shops

1- Borgatti Ravioli & Egg Noodles
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/borgattis-ravi...

2- Russ & Daughters
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/russ-and-daugh...

3- Espositos Pork Shop
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/espositos-fine...

4- Salumeria Rossi
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/salumeria-rosi...

5- Despana
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/despa%C3%B1a-n...

6- Murray’s Cheese Shop
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/murrays-cheese...

7- Momofuku Milk Bar
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/momofuku-milk-...

8- Puddin’
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/puddin-new-york

9- Villabate Alba
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/villabate-alba...

10- Eataly
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/eataly-new-york

11- LaDurée
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/ladur%C3%A9e-n...

12- Dough
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/dough-brooklyn

13- Doughnut Plant
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/doughnut-plant...

14- Levain
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/levain-bakery-...

15- Los Paisanos
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/los-paisanos-b...

Bagels & breakfast

1- Absolute bagels
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/absolute-bagel...

2- Ess-A-Bagel
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/ess-a-bagel-ne...

3- H&H Midtown Bagel
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/h-and-h-midtow...

4- Barney Greengrass Deli
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/barney-greengr...

Pizza

1- Luzzo’s
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/luzzos-new-york

2- Lucali
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/lucali-brooklyn-3

3- J&V Pizza
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/j-and-v-pizzer...

4- Luna Rossa
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/luna-rossa-bro...

Hotdog, Hamburger & Sandwiches

1- Eisenberg Sandwich Shop
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/eisenbergs-san...

2- Minetta Tavern
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/minetta-tavern...

3- Papaya King
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/papaya-king-ne...

4- Grey’s Papaya
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/grays-papaya-n...

5- Burger Joint
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/burger-joint-n...

6- Shake Shack
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/shake-shack-ne...

7- Crif Dog
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/crif-dogs-new-...

Meat. BBQ & meatballs

1- The Meatball Shop
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-meatball-s...

2- Char no4
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/char-no-4-broo...

3- Frankie Spuntino
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/frankies-spunt...

4- Blue Smoke
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/blue-smoke-new...

Italian

1- Bianca
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/bianca-restaur...

2- Paprika
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/paprika-new-york

3-Giano
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/giano-restaura...

4-Gaia Italian Café
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/gaia-italian-c...

5-Malatesta
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/malatesta-new-...

6- L’Artusi
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/l-artusi-new-york

7- Frank restaurant
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/frank-new-york...

8- Locanda Verde
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/locanda-verde-...

Asia (without japan

)

1- Hop Lee Restaurant
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/hop-lee-restau...

2- Cho Dang Gol
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/cho-dang-gol-k...

3- Hanbat
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/hanbat-restaur...

4- Momofuku Ssam
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/momofuku-ssam-...

5- SriRaPhai
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/sripraphai-tha...

6- Pure Thai Cookhouse
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/pure-thai-cook...

7- Baohaus
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/baohaus-new-yo...

8- Nan Xiang Xiao Long Bao
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/kung-fu-xiao-l...

9- New Imperial Seafood Restaurant
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/imperial-palac...

10- Mission Chinese NYC
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/mission-chines...

11- Pokpok NY
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/pok-pok-ny-bro...

12- Great NY Noodle Town
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/great-ny-noodl...

Japanese

1- Otafuku
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/otafuku-new-york

2- Yakitori Taisho
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/yakitori-taish...

3- Village Yokocho
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/village-yokoch...

4- Yakinuku West
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/yakiniku-west-...

5- Samurai Mama
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/samurai-mama-b...

New hipster/Faux high end « Terroir »

1- Walter Food
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/walter-foods-b...

2- Gwynnett St
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/gwynnett-st-br...

3- Battersby
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/battersby-broo...

Quebec in NYC!

1- Miles-End Deli
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/mile-end-brook...

2- M.Wells Dinette
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/m-wells-dinett...

3- Fedora
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/fedora-new-york-2

South american & Mexico

1- Empellon Taqueria
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/empell%C3%B3n-...

2- Tortilleria Nixtamal
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/tortilleria-ni...

3- Arepas Lady
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/arepa-lady-jac...

Funny and particular

1- King Yum
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/king-yum-resta...

2- Dukagjini Burek
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/dukagjini-bure...

3- Sammy’s Roumanian Steakhouse
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/sammys-roumani...

Destination

1- Marc Forgione
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/marc-forgione-...

2- Blue Hill
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/blue-hill-new-...

3- Neta
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/neta-new-york

4- Momofuku Ko
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/momofuku-ko-ne...

5- Spotted Pig
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-spotted-pi...

6- WD-50
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/wd-50-new-york

7- Torrisi Italian Specialities
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/torrisi-italia...

I'll be keeping you up to date when I can on my impressions!

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  1. None of the craft beer bars are craft beer bars except Pony Bar. Spuyten Duyvil is good for Belgian beers though.

    None of the Japanese places you listed are worth going to unless you are absolutely desperate.

    I'm not sure many locals would agree that Neta and Spotted Pig are destination dining...Seems to be some other weird classifications too. For example:

    -Neither China nor Korea are in Southeast Asia.

    -Mexico is in North America.

    ...and Minetta Tavern in the same group as Papaya King, Eisenberg's, etc. is pretty funny actually.

    6 Replies
    1. re: Silverjay

      *None of the craft beer bars are craft beer bars except Pony Bar. Spuyten Duyvil is good for Belgian beers though.*

      Ok, I'll take note. The larger category I was aiming for was a beer theme though.

      *None of the Japanese places you listed are worth going to unless you are absolutely desperate.*

      Ok... they seemed to have a good yelp rating and featured stuff difficult to find here (Okonomiyaki, Takoyaki, Yakitori) and Village Yokocho looks like a nice Izakaya?

      I'm not sure many locals would agree that Neta and Spotted Pig are destination dining...Seems to be some other weird classifications too. For example:

      -Neither China nor Korea are in Southeast Asia.

      -Mexico is in North America.

      ...and Minetta Tavern in the same group as Papaya King, Eisenberg's, etc. is pretty funny actually.

      The classifications are thematic but yeah... I'll edit the list. For Minetta Tavern... if I go there it will be for the burger although I know its not the same style.

      1. re: CaptCrunch

        "*None of the craft beer bars are craft beer bars except Pony Bar. Spuyten Duyvil is good for Belgian beers though.*

        Ok, I'll take note. The larger category I was aiming for was a beer theme though."

        Beer bars:

        Beer Authority: http://www.yelp.com/biz/beer-authorit...

        Blind Tiger (the champion, IMO. get there early because it's busy from 5 to close): http://www.yelp.com/biz/blind-tiger-a...

        Standings and Burp Castle are next to each other and under common ownership but are completely different: http://www.yelp.com/biz/burp-castle-n... http://www.yelp.com/biz/standings-new...

        The Pony Bar - not the strongest entry, but decent enough if you're coming off the high line: http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-pony-bar-...

        Spitzer's Corner: http://www.yelp.com/biz/spitzers-corn...

        Croxley's Ale House: http://www.yelp.com/biz/croxley-ales-...

        124 Old Rabbit Club -- not the largest selection, but extremely well curated: http://www.yelp.com/biz/124-old-rabbi...

        That should cover you for Manhattan south of 57th St.

        1. re: CaptCrunch

          I think the best, or at least most interesting, beer bar in the city right now is Torst in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. There's a lot of hipstified, quarky restaurants in that area as well. So you might want to consider an Outer Boroughs baby Godzilla post.

          Blind Tiger, Rattle n'Hum, and The Ginger Man are the craft selection stalwarts. I like doing flights at RnH...Top Hops beer shop in the Lower Eastside is an interesting place. Retail shop with a bar...Pony Bar is a more "if you are in that area"...and Spitzer's Corner can be fun but can be a scene on weekend nights...Croxley's isn't really in the same league as any of these...DBA in the East Village would probably be better....Or you might want to look into the Brooklyneer if you want everything completely local.

          If you want udon, try Onya in mid-town for lunch. For yakitori, try Yakitori Totto roundabout Broadway.....Okonomiyaki and takoyaki pretty much suck here.....The seasonal specials posted on the wall at Village Yokocho can be ok and if you are with a group and are drinking, it can be a fun time. "Nice" is a strong word to describe it though.... I like Rockmeisha these days for casual izakaya, but menu is smaller and it's a quirky, though authentic, experience...Yakiniku West is ok. Takashi (i've never been) is a pricey but more crafty alternative. But Gyukaku is a better Japanese option from a cost performance/ quality perspective and they have a happy hour deal.

          1. re: Silverjay

            I'll update the beer list.

            We don't even have okonomiyaki and takoyaki focused places in montreal (maybe as a feature in an izakaya but even then..._)! :) Tons of sushi place, a few ramen (and from all accounts not authentic), a few Izakaya (one really strong one) aaand... that's it!

            I prefer going in a strong japanese izakaya than just trying a new dish in a bad place just because I don'T have it at home so I'll scrap my whole japanese section and will pick one from yours.

            1. re: CaptCrunch

              proletariatny.com- Great beer Bar and right across the street from Crift Dog. Great beers followed by great hot dogs= NYC at it's best.

      2. How big is your group? More than four people is tough in Manhattan to wing it, unless you love waiting. If you're coming tomorrow, you're not going to get into some of these places without a reservation. Or you're going to have a looooooooong wait. Two or three hours at prime time on a weekend night, I'm thinking.

        PDT and Death & Co are very, very small, for example. PDT has only a few booths, a few tables for two, and a bar. That's it. D&C is slightly bigger but not a lot of space for big groups.

        You're also inexplicably missing Milk & Honey and the NoMad, the two best cocktail spots right by Madison Square Park.

        Campbell Apt has a dress code BTW. The drinks there aren't that great.

        Also some of your choices are a bit of a trek from MSP. Like Dutch Kills, Sripraphai, Nan Xiang. Are you all prepared for a long subway ride to and from? An hour there and back?

        Your pizza choices are missing many of the greats. Patsy's East Harlem. Motorino. Johns of Bleecker. Di Fara. etc. I don't think Luzzo's belongs, it's more like second or third tier.

        Blue Hill, Ko, Torrisi, WD-50 are popular and you can't just expect to walk in and get a seat. Maybe the bar at WD-50 or Blue Hill but not a table for a big group.

        Ko doesn't even take walk ins. They only do two parties of four a night.

        What about stuff closer to you like Curry Hill? Hill Country? Resto/The Cannibal? The Breslin? Flatiron Room? Maysville?

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        1. re: kathryn

          *How big is your group? More than four people is tough in Manhattan to wing it, unless you love waiting. If you're coming tomorrow, you're not going to get into some of these places without a reservation. Or you're going to have a looooooooong wait. Two or three hours at prime time on a weekend night, I'm thinking.*

          It depends... from 1 to 6. Very rarely we will be more than 2 or 3 and I plan to go often alone.There are a few fun places that we might be planning to go together but they will probably be bigger venues, more popular, a bit less expensive, ect. Tougher places to go to might just be me alone with a place at the bar if I can get in. I'm not counting on getting in tough places on primetime weekend :).

          *PDT and Death & Co are very, very small, for example. PDT has only a few booths, a few tables for two, and a bar. That's it. D&C is slightly bigger but not a lot of space for big groups.*

          For PDT... I was aiming at trying it in the week as early as possible (on a monday at 6 or so...??), taking a couple of cocktail and moving on. I'm not looking at going a night clubbing there, I mainly want to try their cocktails and variants.

          *You're also inexplicably missing Milk & Honey and the NoMad, the two best cocktail spots right by Madison Square Park.*

          That's my mistake. After 10 or so places I cared a bit less about catching them all. That you for the suggestion!

          "Campbell Apt has a dress code BTW. The drinks there aren't that great."

          Yes, I have proper clothes for the Campbell Apt. I am more interested in the decor than the cocktail there however.

          *Also some of your choices are a bit of a trek from MSP. Like Dutch Kills, Sripraphai, Nan Xiang. Are you all prepared for a long subway ride to and from? An hour there and back?*

          Valid question. I don't know how much we'll cover the borough but M Wells Dinette is a must for me and I know Dutch Kills made their cocktail program and it doesn't look that far. If I can't get in PDT it might be a good option.

          As for Sripraphai I love Thai food, I heard great things about that place and I expect NYC to have a great asian repertoire...

          Probably won't go to Nan Xiang but we never know...

          *Your pizza choices are missing many of the greats. Patsy's East Harlem. Motorino. Johns of Bleecker. Di Fara. etc. I don't think Luzzo's belongs, it's more like second or third tier.*

          Ok, thanks. I'll take note!

          *Blue Hill, Ko, Torrisi, WD-50 are popular and you can't just expect to walk in and get a seat. Maybe the bar at WD-50 or Blue Hill but not a table for a big group. Ko doesn't even take walk ins. They only do two parties of four a night.*

          I don't expect to get in those... If I try them it will probably alone, looking to score a place at the bar. It was mainly for my reference.

          Thank you for the comments! They are very helpfull!

          1. re: CaptCrunch

            Dutch kills is really unique as is M. Wells Dinette, definitely trek worthy and they are not far from MSP. It's actually FARTHER to go to places in Manhattan like Harlem or WTC. Sripraphai is really wonderful. Some may complain about downhill this and that but after having gone to esteemed Lotus of Siam and eaten at other Thai places in Canada and NA, Sripraphai acquits itself nicely.

            Coming from Montreal, I would definitely add Chinese to the list. Honestly I was taken to many of the highest rated Chinese restaurants in Montreal and they were not as good as what we have in NYC. I would try Hakkasan or make a trek to flushing for Nan Xiang if you love soup dumplings, Fu Run or Biang or Spicy Tasty or Hunan Kitchen.

            As for boutiques, I would add Kee's Chocolate, the chocolates are fresh and delicate and most importantly, not too sweet. Minamoto Kitchoan, it's one of the more special places in NY and their daifuku is the best in the city.

            I would delete your entire Japanese section, I've been to most of them and they're really mediocre and not worth going unless you live in the neighborhood and are on a budget and must have Japanese food.

            Tortilleria Nixtamal is not easy to get to, but it is so so so so good. It's just so delicious, the sauces, the complexity of the chili salsas, the rich corn flavor of the tortillas.

            I find Momofuku Milk Bar vilely sweet. Inedible.

            I would go to Aquagrill over Grand Central Oyster bar since the only thing good at GCO are the oysters.

            I would skip Burger Joint over Shake Shack. The fries at Shake Shack are pretty mediocre though.

            I would skip all your pizza choices, DiFara's blows them away, DiFara's is also not easy to get to and has crazy lines and waits. If you MUST have pizza, and have the fortitude go to DiFara's or sub in John's on Bleecker or Motorino.

            Yakitori Totto or Tori Shin for yakitori.

            Cho dong gol is really pricey and just OK. I would take out Pure Thai Cookhouse, the Thai in Queens is much better.

            I would go to DiPalo's for cheese and charcuterie.

            The French bakeries in Montreal are absurdly good, do you really need to try the ones in NYC?

            King Yum, Hop Lee and Great NY Noodletown should be places you pass by or take drunken photos in. Just don't eat there.

            1. re: Pookipichu

              The UES Shake Shack has fresh shoestring style fries w/ the skin on. They are no longer the frozen crinkle cut kind. The new fries are pretty good! Tried them earlier this week.

              http://www.shakeshack.com/2013/08/06/...

              1. re: kathryn

                Those look really good. The crinkle cut ones are like sawdust, blegh.

              2. re: Pookipichu

                We will try Sripraphai as I feel that asian options in NY might be stronger than a lot of Montreal and a few of us love thai cuisine (my fried was bemoaning the lack of solid pad thai options in Montreal a few weeks ago). Chinese, Thai, Japanese, Korean… I feel NY might be stronger in all of them in Montreal:

                *there is one really strong Izakaya in MTL (kazu)… the rests are few and far between and pretty weak…
                *we just had a jian bing place open up recently
                *we have only one strong soup dumpling place that I know of (Qing Hua)
                *there are a few korean places but we are still at the place where eating Korean is an event in itself… there is no differentiation on region and speciality as of yet

                Nixtamal might be a reach… I don’t mind going in the boroughs but that looks a bit far!

                I have the milk bar book (made a few crack pies and cakes) so I mind test it on principle.

                We are going to Grand Central Oyster Bar today. It is the birthday of a seafood lover and we will be between 8 and 12 people so we’ll need a large place to accommodate us all.

                I understand my Japanese places suck (pretty clear from the comments). I’ll edit it. Thank for the heads up for the Chinese restaurants (I know king yum will probably be ordinary but I wanted to list it because I have a soft spot for vintage tiki places).

                I don’t feel the need to try any French things but it might be fun to try what New Yorker feel as being their strong French options (there are not a lot of French restaurants and boutiques in the list)
                Thank you all in all!

                1. re: CaptCrunch

                  There's a Pok Pok pad thai place in the Lower Eastside. The Thai places in Queens like Sriphapai and Ayada aren't really worth traveling to for that dish, but certainly for other dishes. Zabb Elee in the East Village though does good laab and som tam if you want to focus on Northern style.

                  For Japanese, Yakitori Totto is a nice destination spot. Aburiya Kinnosuke, another place in the same restaurant group, is also a nice place with robata dishes, seasonal stuff, and sashimi. Rockmeisha, that I mentioned earlier, is pretty neighborhoody. Maybe more for a second stop or just for drinks and snacks. People are talking about Blue Ribbon Izakaya, though their menu looks a bit fushiony. I looked up Kazu in Montreal and that seems more in this Blue Ribbon style.

                  Nixtamal is good, but I agree that is a long way to go.

                  1. re: Silverjay

                    Oh, i remembered Yopparai as a good, though bit pricey, izakaya. It's also not great for groups. For one or two people though, it is nice.

                    1. re: CaptCrunch

                      Avoid the Pad Thai at Sripraphai. It's not their strong suit. It's originally a street food in Thailand, so it makes more sense to visit a specialist like Pok Pok Phat Thai.

                      At Sripraphai, we love:

                      A6 Crispy watercress salad
                      A7 Crispy catfish salad
                      A13 Larb (pork) with mint, chili, lime
                      A15 Fried soft shell crab with green mango sauce
                      N5 Drunken noodles
                      N9 Kao soy
                      C10 Sauteed chinese broccoli w crispy pork
                      C16 Sauteed crispy pork
                      C19 Sauteed pork with string beans
                      C21 Penang curry
                      C22 Massaman curry
                      C25 Green curry with duck
                      Coconut rice

                      1. re: kathryn

                        +1 I haven't had great pad thai in NY and am lucky to find ok pad thai. The pad thai at Sripraphai teeters on ok.

                      2. re: CaptCrunch

                        If you are in a small group at Sri with seafood lovers, definitely get a whole fried or steamed red snapper with one of the sauces. It's on the last page of the menu...and also, an order or two of the raw shrimp appetizer.

                        1. re: Silverjay

                          Thanks everybody! You definitely make a convincing case! We do have seafood lovers in the group!

                        2. re: CaptCrunch

                          You'll have great Chinese food on Flushing nom nom nom. Madangsui for Korean bbq. There's so much good Japanese in the city. If you don't go to Yakitori Totto, go to Sugiyama next door. !5 East sushi bar. There are more expensive places but I'm assuming you don't want to spend an arm and a leg.

                          1. re: Pookipichu

                            >If you don't go to Yakitori Totto, go to Sugiyama next door. 15 East sushi bar. There are more expensive places but I'm assuming you don't want to spend an arm and a leg.

                            But at Sugiyama and (depending on how you order) 15 East, we're talking about at least an arm, right?

                        3. re: Pookipichu

                          I'm no expert on NYC but was there just last week with lots of eating ventures. Within the terms set by OP and your responses, I would say that the soup dumplings at Joe's Shanghai in Chinatown (Pell St.) are delicious. (There is a midtown location that I haven't tried.)

                          For pizza, closer than Di Fara's but still in Brooklyn is Juliana's, which is terrific, and run by the original Grimaldis, now in competition with the moved and rebranded Grimalidi's next door at the foot of the Brooklyn bridge. (Check the back story.) There are other pizza places in Manhattan itself, such as John's or Keste, which I couldn't try but would expect to be excellent.

                        4. re: CaptCrunch

                          PDT on a weekday at 6pm is your best bet. The bar portion is first come, first served.

                          If you end up at Milk & Honey, I would de-prioritize Lantern's Keep, Dutch Kills, Silver Lining, and Raines Law Room. They share a lot of the same staff & philosophy since they are all related. They are more about classic cocktails with 4-5 ingredients made very well and less so about infusing liquors. It's either bartender's choice (i.e. you tell them your preferences) or a shortish cocktail list. Their cocktail lists really is classic drinks with some modern modifications/variations but most of their cocktails have a very clear lineage that traces back to something from an earlier era.

                          Whereas PDT, Mayahuel, Death & Co., Pouring Ribbons, etc. infuse liquors and use more nouveau ingredients and have more complicated cocktails (sometimes with a LOT more components - like eight or nine). It should be noted that PDT, Mayahuel, and Death & Co all have their lineage from Pegu Club, so, similar philosophies. But they take it to the next level from Pegu Club.

                          Pegu Club is more of a middle ground in terms of experimentation with tons of ingredients in one drink / making crazy syrups and infusions. It's definitely worth a visit, particularly early on in the evening. Audrey Saunders is the godmother of the current cocktail movement in NYC and has created a lot of what are now considered classics in the craft cocktail canon.

                          1. re: kathryn

                            Thank you!

                            We'll probably be going for only 1 or 2 places in the speakeasy category. I want to do one of the "nouveau cocktail" places and I'll probably want to try either an “atmosphere bar” (Campbell apts, lenox lounge, king cole…) or a “classic” (I am a cocktail enthousiast myself and enjoy a good crafted classic as much as new cocktails). I wanted to try a “Pegu Club Cocktail” from the original branch and I really liked the classic options from the Guthrie inn! I guess we’ll see!

                            1. re: CaptCrunch

                              Uh, Pegu Club in NYC is an homage to the original in Burma. Not the original.

                              1. re: kathryn

                                Oh, I know! But its tempting to taste they hommage to the Pegu Club cocktail since its a drink that I find has an interesting history!

                      3. Note that schaller amd webber is a retail store, not a restaurant.
                        Also know that otafuku is a walk up window, nowhere to sit, can be amazing or terrible, kind of inconsistant.

                        I would add big gay ice cream to your list over puddin' as a unique dessert place.
                        Fyi the best bagels near you will be pick a bagel on 23rd and 2nd ave

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                        1. re: Ttrockwood

                          I made a mistake. It was Heidelberg I was thinking of. Wrongly identified the restaurant.

                        2. Great list of "must go to" places, but I'd leave H & H off the list, they have gone steadily downhill over the past few years, instead go to Murray's Bagels in the Village, though they also have a location in Chelsea.

                          To your breakfast list I'd add Clinton St. Baking Co, http://www.yelp.com/biz/clinton-st-ba... they have arguably the best pancakes in the world, served with the warm maple infused butter. The buttermilk biscuits are heavenly as is their in house made sugar cured bacon. I believe they also make the fruit jams served with the biscuits. Word of warning though, they only take cash, and if you go at peak breakfast times, you'll have a wait for a table.

                          Also a 1+ for the Big Gay Ice Cream Shop or Van.

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                          1. re: PuniceaRana

                            Will add Clinton Baking! Don't worry, I'm on the lookout for the big gay van!

                            1. re: CaptCrunch

                              The Big Gay Ice Cream truck is not out this summer—you'll have to go to one of the two shops: East Village or West.

                              1. re: loratliff

                                Good news, the truck might be back @ Union Square! Keep an eye on their Twitter.

                                https://twitter.com/biggayicecream/st...

                                1. re: kathryn

                                  Thanks! I think I'll drop by their location and say hi after all. I do walk a lot and its just fun to wonder if the BG truck is the one you see coming,

                          2. For your cocktail bars - you missed some good ones; Gin Palace, Amar Y Amargo (very smal but very cool if you get there when they open), Lantern's Keep (small but they take reservations), and Dead Rabbit (incredible cocktail list, very atmospheric, can get packed).

                            And your Old Town Bar belongs in the dive bar list, don't go there expecting to get a decent beer.

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                            1. re: Spiritchaser

                              Old Town is more an "atmospheric" option than a place to try beers all night long. Might take a pint there and go someplace else.