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Racism? Anti-tattoo-ism? Or just enforcing the dress code?

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  1. For once I did a search before responding.

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-12035...

    notes that tank tops were specifically banned. And that was as of 7 August, 2004.

    Now if he was breast feeding, he would have gotten a pass.

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    1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

      That's because breast feeding is necessary, as you well know. Sheesh.

    2. The manager should have said "sorry, no tank tops" and stopped there.

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        1. re: Veggo

          Agreed, however it's only alleged he made comments about his tat's. Based on Indianriverfl it seems as if this has been a well established corporate policy, and not an unusual one, so I'm not sure what would compel a manager to take it beyond "It's our policy".

          1. re: jrvedivici

            I find it hard to believe that a manager would say anything other than the dress code policy. But I wasn't there.

            1. re: Firegoat

              If indeed the manager made it about the tats, it was a stupid move. The Game has extensive ink on his forearms, neck, and face that wouldn't have been covered even if he slipped on a polo shirt. If management is taking that route, it's a slippery slope. Let them ban ankle tattoos on all the ladies, too.

              Would Jesse James (of Monster Garage, not of outlaw fame) in a tank top have been thrown out for his ink? Hope so.

              1. re: pinehurst

                Again, the part about the tat's is being told by the Game in his tweet. Let's be honest, this is the most "press" he's gotten in a few years. It only plays favorably for him by insisting that was the reason. I find it very suspect.

                1. re: jrvedivici

                  I completely agree with you jrvedivici. Tats are very mainstream and common on even your highest high end clients. I can't buy his story. I do buy that he needed a shirt with sleeves.

                  1. re: Firegoat

                    And how sad that they are "mainstream."

          2. re: Veggo

            Yes, and perhaps offered him a loaner cardigan.

          3. What I don't get is: What do tattoos have to do with racism? Your race is not a choice. Tattooing is.

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            1. re: jmckee

              Sigh. The issue is whether the manager would have found a white guy who was heavily tattooed to be "scaring the other customers."

            2. Are tattoos even scary anymore? Besides, this place has a well established history of having a specific dress code.

              1. There's likely no law barring discrimination against tattoos.

                So you would need to try to make a case based on another basis like race or gender.

                Other than that, it a business decision.

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                1. re: C. Hamster

                  There might not be any law against them, but I've seen my share that should be illegal!

                  1. re: jpc8015

                    Game is a rapper who was a one time protege of Fifty Cent. He had some moderate success a few years ago but has completely fallen off the charts and radar the past few years.

                  2. A quick search and his arms have a few portraits of deceased friends (nice pics of them alive, btw), a pigeon, "black Wall Street", a cemetery, his logo for his shoe company (an H, basically), "chuck Taylor" and a clown. Lots of stuff in a small space and unless you were staring you would have a hard time deciphering it all.

                    If the issue was the lack of sleeves, the manager should've kept it at that. And it doesn't appear that any of his tattoos are offensive, except for the clown ;)

                    What am I talking about, EVERYBODY LOVES CLOWNS

                    Re: Jon Parker. I've been to clubs with "strict" dress codes. I've watched a group of white guys be let into the club with timberlands and jeans, then a group of black/Mexicans be turned away specifically because of their timberlands and jeans. Could it be coincidence? Sure, maybe those guys were let in because they were friends with the bouncers. Could it be racism? Sure. And if it is the first case, no one would know it and it sure looks like and feels like the second.

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                    1. re: youareabunny

                      If you think that's crazy,I once got turned away from a strip joint cause I was wearing a tank top..that's right a strip joint(and a pretty skanky one at that),where all the girls are flouncing around practically nekked.
                      I was like "seriously" and the doorman was like "ya guy dress code,but you can buy one of our $40.00 t shirts if you wanna come in"

                      Needless to say I was outta there faster than a stripper dropping her G-String....

                      1. re: youareabunny

                        I've never actually seen this, although the gang presence at goth/industrial/punk clubs is pretty limited. I don't have a problem with any place having a dress code, but not enforcing it equally is just wrong, whether it's buddies or racism.

                        I've got a couple of tattoos, but if I'm wearing a shirt and long pants you'd never know it. I like them, and plan to get more. I hope they don't make me unacceptable company.