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Racism? Anti-tattoo-ism? Or just enforcing the dress code?

Firegoat Aug 12, 2013 08:05 AM

http://www.grubstreet.com/2013/08/the...

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    INDIANRIVERFL Aug 12, 2013 08:40 AM

    For once I did a search before responding.

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-12035...

    notes that tank tops were specifically banned. And that was as of 7 August, 2004.

    Now if he was breast feeding, he would have gotten a pass.

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    1. re: INDIANRIVERFL
      JonParker Aug 12, 2013 09:00 AM

      That's because breast feeding is necessary, as you well know. Sheesh.

    2. Veggo Aug 12, 2013 08:44 AM

      The manager should have said "sorry, no tank tops" and stopped there.

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      1. re: Veggo
        pinehurst Aug 12, 2013 08:46 AM

        That's it exactly.

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          jrvedivici Aug 12, 2013 09:06 AM

          Agreed, however it's only alleged he made comments about his tat's. Based on Indianriverfl it seems as if this has been a well established corporate policy, and not an unusual one, so I'm not sure what would compel a manager to take it beyond "It's our policy".

          1. re: jrvedivici
            Firegoat Aug 12, 2013 09:08 AM

            I find it hard to believe that a manager would say anything other than the dress code policy. But I wasn't there.

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              pinehurst Aug 12, 2013 09:21 AM

              If indeed the manager made it about the tats, it was a stupid move. The Game has extensive ink on his forearms, neck, and face that wouldn't have been covered even if he slipped on a polo shirt. If management is taking that route, it's a slippery slope. Let them ban ankle tattoos on all the ladies, too.

              Would Jesse James (of Monster Garage, not of outlaw fame) in a tank top have been thrown out for his ink? Hope so.

              1. re: pinehurst
                jrvedivici Aug 12, 2013 09:39 AM

                Again, the part about the tat's is being told by the Game in his tweet. Let's be honest, this is the most "press" he's gotten in a few years. It only plays favorably for him by insisting that was the reason. I find it very suspect.

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                  Firegoat Aug 12, 2013 10:02 AM

                  I completely agree with you jrvedivici. Tats are very mainstream and common on even your highest high end clients. I can't buy his story. I do buy that he needed a shirt with sleeves.

                  1. re: Firegoat
                    jmckee Aug 12, 2013 01:49 PM

                    And how sad that they are "mainstream."

          2. re: Veggo
            tcamp Aug 12, 2013 09:17 AM

            Yes, and perhaps offered him a loaner cardigan.

          3. jmckee Aug 12, 2013 01:48 PM

            What I don't get is: What do tattoos have to do with racism? Your race is not a choice. Tattooing is.

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            1. re: jmckee
              JonParker Aug 12, 2013 03:40 PM

              Sigh. The issue is whether the manager would have found a white guy who was heavily tattooed to be "scaring the other customers."

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              Hobbert Aug 12, 2013 03:56 PM

              Are tattoos even scary anymore? Besides, this place has a well established history of having a specific dress code.

              1. C. Hamster Aug 12, 2013 04:03 PM

                There's likely no law barring discrimination against tattoos.

                So you would need to try to make a case based on another basis like race or gender.

                Other than that, it a business decision.

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                1. re: C. Hamster
                  jrvedivici Aug 12, 2013 04:55 PM

                  There might not be any law against them, but I've seen my share that should be illegal!

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                  jpc8015 Aug 13, 2013 01:31 AM

                  Who is The Game?

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                  1. re: jpc8015
                    jrvedivici Aug 13, 2013 01:40 PM

                    Game is a rapper who was a one time protege of Fifty Cent. He had some moderate success a few years ago but has completely fallen off the charts and radar the past few years.

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                    youareabunny Aug 13, 2013 10:39 AM

                    A quick search and his arms have a few portraits of deceased friends (nice pics of them alive, btw), a pigeon, "black Wall Street", a cemetery, his logo for his shoe company (an H, basically), "chuck Taylor" and a clown. Lots of stuff in a small space and unless you were staring you would have a hard time deciphering it all.

                    If the issue was the lack of sleeves, the manager should've kept it at that. And it doesn't appear that any of his tattoos are offensive, except for the clown ;)

                    What am I talking about, EVERYBODY LOVES CLOWNS

                    Re: Jon Parker. I've been to clubs with "strict" dress codes. I've watched a group of white guys be let into the club with timberlands and jeans, then a group of black/Mexicans be turned away specifically because of their timberlands and jeans. Could it be coincidence? Sure, maybe those guys were let in because they were friends with the bouncers. Could it be racism? Sure. And if it is the first case, no one would know it and it sure looks like and feels like the second.

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                    1. re: youareabunny
                      petek Aug 13, 2013 11:05 AM

                      If you think that's crazy,I once got turned away from a strip joint cause I was wearing a tank top..that's right a strip joint(and a pretty skanky one at that),where all the girls are flouncing around practically nekked.
                      I was like "seriously" and the doorman was like "ya guy dress code,but you can buy one of our $40.00 t shirts if you wanna come in"

                      Needless to say I was outta there faster than a stripper dropping her G-String....

                      1. re: youareabunny
                        JonParker Aug 13, 2013 11:34 AM

                        I've never actually seen this, although the gang presence at goth/industrial/punk clubs is pretty limited. I don't have a problem with any place having a dress code, but not enforcing it equally is just wrong, whether it's buddies or racism.

                        I've got a couple of tattoos, but if I'm wearing a shirt and long pants you'd never know it. I like them, and plan to get more. I hope they don't make me unacceptable company.

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