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Next Food Network Star Winner (2013) [SPOILERS]

Thanks4Food Aug 11, 2013 07:31 PM

One word to describe the show: painful.

We recorded it to skip commercials but ended up skipping 80% of the entire program and it was STILL painful to watch.

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    tracytrace RE: Thanks4Food Aug 11, 2013 07:52 PM

    Yeh, I just switched to it for the last 3 minutes, and that was almost too much. Then veryquickly switched off again to avoid the Cutthroat thing.

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      paulj RE: tracytrace Aug 11, 2013 08:24 PM

      Don't forget to post an opinion the other thread about the show that you didn't watch! :)

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      cwdonald RE: Thanks4Food Aug 11, 2013 07:56 PM

      The show should be renamed the next food network flop ...

      1. DiningDiva RE: Thanks4Food Aug 11, 2013 10:15 PM

        YAWN. . .

        Done until next summer

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          Puffin3 RE: DiningDiva Aug 12, 2013 12:56 AM

          So who won? I got part way through it and went to bed.
          Please God don't let AB do another silly show. Too late. I won't be watching it.
          It's like FN has hired a bunch of fifth graders to come up with their 'foodie shows'.
          Where are the new JCs and JPs?

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            Erika RollerGirl RE: Puffin3 Aug 12, 2013 06:01 AM

            ****SPOILER ALERT***

            Demaris won, thank goodness. I hope they rework her show as the "pilot" that was taped was almost as painful to watch as the finale was last night.

            I'm so glad that neither Russell or the Pie Man won. I don't think I could handle a show from either of those two but I have no doubt we'll still be stuck seeing both of them in one way or another around either FN or The Cooking Channel soon.

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              DGresh RE: Erika RollerGirl Aug 12, 2013 08:01 AM

              I didn't watch but figured she would. She was the only one remotely watchable. I thought it was funny though, that her pilot "concept" was more or less "teaching men to cook". Wasn't an early contestant skewered over that very concept since it was insulting to "a vast portion of the FN audience?"

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                Thanks4Food RE: DGresh Aug 12, 2013 08:22 AM

                Good point!

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                  C. Hamster RE: DGresh Aug 12, 2013 08:55 AM

                  And wasn't she criticized for being too flirtatious?

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                    DiningDiva RE: DGresh Aug 12, 2013 08:59 AM

                    Yes, but that was a guy with that POV, and one that had lost a huge amount of weight. They didn't want him to "teach" people how to cook, they wanted his show to be about weight loss.

                    If they can find the right vehicle for Demaris, she may have a longer run than most of the others. She's telegenic, she can actually cook and her wit is quick enough to keep her from getting flustered. IOWs, she's actually likeable.

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                      paulj RE: DiningDiva Aug 12, 2013 11:32 AM

                      Eater's coverage of her win from Louisville

                      http://louisville.eater.com/archives/...

            2. Njchicaa RE: Thanks4Food Aug 12, 2013 02:52 AM

              I give the new show (if there is a show and not just a 1 hour special like Justin Warner got) 2 seasons tops.

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                semicooking pro RE: Njchicaa Aug 17, 2013 01:30 PM

                True. Her concept, "teaching men to cook" is wacky. I think folks will watch her first show...just like Arti Party...but that is it. Her food didn't come across as that good...and not interesting enough to make her a regular watch. Come on Food Network...with all that creativity you probably have on board....COME UP WITH SOMETHING FRESH!

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                  Njchicaa RE: semicooking pro Aug 17, 2013 07:01 PM

                  I think they should look at some of the also-rans on NFNS (Vic Vegas, Brad, Michelle R, and hey maybe even the Pie Guy among others) as well as some of the Chopped favorites (Lance, Madison, Yohanne, Mike Minor, etc.) I'd watch a show from any of the suggestions that I've listed. I'm forgetting 15 more that I'd also want to see.

                  They need to stop trying to search from the outside. After almost 10 seasons, there isn't any other new amazing talent out there that they haven't already found and used in one of their shows before.

              2. chicgail RE: Thanks4Food Aug 12, 2013 04:58 AM

                How to waste a full hour of airtime on nothing new, just to take 90 seconds to announce a "winner" who we will maybe see twice more. yawn.

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                  Joanie RE: chicgail Aug 12, 2013 05:24 AM

                  Yeah "yawn" was my reaction. It was so boring, I just didn't care about recaps of the contestants and the judges. And poor Russell had to watch his after getting the axe, that didn't seem like a good plan. And the dumb Skype questions? Ugh.

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                    coney with everything RE: Joanie Aug 13, 2013 04:46 AM

                    My reaction was "watch first 10 minutes, fall asleep, wake up at the end, ask husband who won, fall back asleep"

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                    JonParker RE: chicgail Aug 13, 2013 12:43 PM

                    Don't be too hasty. Unfortunately, we weren't restricted to only seeing Guy Fieri "maybe twice more."

                  3. C. Hamster RE: Thanks4Food Aug 12, 2013 05:37 AM

                    That was a terrible show with contestants I'd never watch.

                    1. mucho gordo RE: Thanks4Food Aug 12, 2013 01:04 PM

                      Coincidence that the winner is from the south? Is she a replacement for Deen??

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                        ennuisans RE: mucho gordo Aug 12, 2013 02:55 PM

                        Maybe, although they do already have Prairie Mom and Trisha Yearwood and G. Garvin to cover the Southern contingent.

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                          paulj RE: ennuisans Aug 12, 2013 04:49 PM

                          Timing is wrong. The PD dustup was at the end of June. They started to show this season at the beginning of June, so it must have been shot a month or more earlier. Damaris was already chosen, and may have already shot her first season.

                          So if anything, Damaris hastened Paula's departure. But as noted, FN already has several 'southern' shows.

                      2. jmckee RE: Thanks4Food Aug 12, 2013 01:42 PM

                        I like Demaris, and we will watch her. Can't say the same about the other finalists. Or any of the others for that matter. Although the tall icy blonde was funny, I thought.

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                          pine time RE: jmckee Aug 12, 2013 01:47 PM

                          I hope they won't stick to that "teaching a man to cook" premise for Demaris--kinda tacky.

                          And I agree, Danushka came across funny in the clips, while during the show, she just seemed grumpy.

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                            chicgail RE: pine time Aug 12, 2013 01:49 PM

                            Look the the editing. Denushka seemed just plain unpleasant and weird thoughout the show but last night they showed clips of her being silly and funny and actually likeable.

                            We don't know how those people actually were. We only know what they cut and broadcast for us to see.

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                              JonParker RE: chicgail Aug 16, 2013 04:26 AM

                              Denushka is another one I follow on Twitter. I think shes really funny and interesting.

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                            SusieQQ RE: jmckee Aug 13, 2013 04:40 AM

                            I think of the three, Demaris was the only possible winner. Why would anyone watch Russell or that Pie Man? They were not appealing. It is hard to understand why they were among the final three.

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                              xo_kizzy_xo RE: SusieQQ Aug 14, 2013 02:22 PM

                              Out of all three pilots, I liked Russell's the best. Pie Man's schtick wore me down after a few minutes. Demaris's potential was there but I was praying that FN would step away from the "cute personable young woman" stereotype for once. How silly of me.

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                                paulj RE: xo_kizzy_xo Aug 14, 2013 03:02 PM

                                what sterotype are you talking about?

                                season 1 - 2 40 yr old guys
                                season 2 - guy 38
                                season 3 - amy 33
                                season 4 - aaron 36
                                season 5 - melissa 40
                                season 6 - aarti 31
                                season 7 - jeff 32
                                season 8 - justin 27
                                season 9 - damaris 31

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                            wincountrygirl RE: Thanks4Food Aug 13, 2013 01:25 PM

                            The show was awful, but I did enjoy the Giada's Italian pronunciation stuff. I'm glad Damaris won, but I won't watch it!

                            1. Breadcrumbs RE: Thanks4Food Aug 13, 2013 05:39 PM

                              This FNS season really made me wish there was a "real" food tv station that focussed on cooking.

                              I miss the days when FN was all about cooking shows and teaching vs sensationalism and "reality" programming.

                              Novel idea for the "Next" FNS season....PLEASE forget about casting characters and just look for a yet-to-be-discovered chef that loves to cook and would do a great job inspiring others to cook.

                              Surely there would be a market for a show like this.......on a "Food Network"

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                                JonParker RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 13, 2013 05:54 PM

                                Actually, my guess is that Food Network knows what they are doing. They don't program based on opinion, they program based on numbers, and apparently reality type shows bring in the ratings that bring in the advertisers.

                                The thing is that when reality shows are done well with people I respect highly (Tom Colicchio, I'm looking at you) they do make for good TV. When done on a third grade level (Guy vs. Rachael) they'e unbearable. TNFNS falls somewhere in the middle, leaning towards the lowe end of the scale.

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                                  paulj RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 13, 2013 06:07 PM

                                  FN is too big to be doing instructional shows during prime time. The audience for that isn't large enough to sustain the kind of advertising that they currently charge.

                                  In the time since FN was all cooking shows (was there ever such a time?) FN has grown in ratings and revenue.

                                  In this list for top rate cable shows for Sunday, FN has 6 shows. Cutthroat and NFNS are their top two.
                                  http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013...

                                  Overall this past week FN is a bit below the middle of the pack. Discovery with Shark Week and Disney were tops

                                  http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013...

                                  Q2 Scripps profits
                                  http://www.scrippsnetworksinteractive...
                                  FN isn't doing as well as HGTV:

                                  HGTV was up 13.1% to $231.7 million;
                                  Food Network was up 2.7% to $224.5 million;
                                  Travel Channel was up 13.7% to $83.9 million;
                                  DIY Network was up 14.6% to $38.7 million;
                                  Cooking Channel was up 27.7% to $28.6 million
                                  GAC was up 40.7% to $7 million.
                                  digital businesses were up 1.1% to $28.6 million.

                                  Cooking Channel 'finds traction in marketplace'; the advertiser's view

                                  http://www.adweek.com/news/television...

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                                    JonParker RE: paulj Aug 13, 2013 06:23 PM

                                    It's good to see Diners, Drive-ins and Dives so near the bottom.

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                                      paulj RE: JonParker Aug 13, 2013 07:15 PM

                                      That's in the 5:30 time slot - and undoubtedly a rerun.

                                      DDD places 3-4 times on Mondays and Fridays, though the ratings aren't higher. But DDD is mostly reruns.

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                                        Puffin3 RE: paulj Aug 14, 2013 07:24 AM

                                        I won't be watching 'D' cook anything b/c A the chances of her actually having a show are almost zero. How many 'winners' of these silly contests do we see? How many are still 'in negotiations' with FN?
                                        B The 'pilot' was ludicrous. They brought in some poor sap from a 'casting' agency and dressed him up like 'Beaver Cleaver' even down to the dorky hair style and vest and bow tie and told him to act like a dope. He did a good job.
                                        Maybe they'll have 'D' dressed in Black leather with a riding crop in the opening episode. I wouldn't put it past FN to try it.

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                                          Thanks4Food RE: Puffin3 Aug 14, 2013 07:38 AM

                                          I thought that same thing about the guy looking completely fake--and more comfortable on camera than she was. She didn't exactly teach him to cook, either.

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                                            JonParker RE: Puffin3 Aug 14, 2013 07:48 AM

                                            Guy Fieri (unfortunately) and Melissa d'Arabian were pretty successful after winning. All of them don't click, but some of them do. I'd give Demaris a pretty good chance.

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                                              Njchicaa RE: JonParker Aug 17, 2013 05:41 AM

                                              I believe d'Arabian's show was recently cancelled along with Neely's, Secrets of a Restaurant Chef, 5 Ingredient Fix, and possibly even Semi-Homemade.

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                                                JonParker RE: Njchicaa Aug 17, 2013 05:46 AM

                                                I've been pretty vocal about not being happy about losing Secrets of a Restaurant Chef. I love Anne Burrell, but FN seems to be transitioning her into reality TV host rather than cooking instructor. She's really great when she's cooking.

                                                To me anyway, she's definitely FN's best on air personality at this point.

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                                                  Njchicaa RE: JonParker Aug 17, 2013 05:56 AM

                                                  I have as well. SORC is one of my favorite shows on FN. Worst Cooks is just stupid and I don't like her yelling on Chef Wanted.

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                                                    wincountrygirl RE: JonParker Aug 17, 2013 08:52 AM

                                                    I so agree. She was one of the very few on that network that I respect. She actually is an instructor at ICE. She is one of the very few who gives me real tips, and has great recipes. I admit, though she is a great cook, her attempts to connect with the audience are not great (big meat, etc), but for me she could just forget all that garbage and cook and tell me what shes doing. I miss Secrets.

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                                                      rasputina RE: wincountrygirl Aug 17, 2013 08:57 AM

                                                      She does give great tips. Now if she would just stop using descriptive words that make me cringe I'd actually start watching again.

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                                                        Njchicaa RE: rasputina Aug 17, 2013 09:32 AM

                                                        The show was cancelled so she won't be filming any new ones.

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                                                        paulj RE: wincountrygirl Aug 17, 2013 09:59 AM

                                                        I don't see Burrell listed on the ICE instructors page, but there is an ICE entry in her Wiki bio. But Bobby Flay also has been an instructor at French Culinary Institute (now ICC), as well as establishing a scholarship there. But then ICC cultivates its connections with well known chefs and owners.

                                                        But if being an instructor is important to you, Damaris' win should please you.

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                                                          JonParker RE: paulj Aug 17, 2013 10:15 AM

                                                          Being an instructor is not important to me, teaching me something is. I learn stuff from SoaRC. Not only is she entertaining, she's informative. I don't hate Anne on her other shows, but I really wish she was in the kitchen teaching me stuff.

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                                                            wincountrygirl RE: paulj Aug 17, 2013 12:29 PM

                                                            It was years ago. A friend of mine had her as an instructor. I'm sure she has no time now! And no, it's not important to me that she was an instructor,I was just mentioning it. I don't really care about Damaris having been an instructor. She is no Anne Burrell.

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                                                        Firegoat RE: Njchicaa Aug 17, 2013 06:03 AM

                                                        Ugh. I really liked Secrets of a Restaurant Chef. Absolutely hate Anne on the Chef Wanted shows. Way too over the top. Secrets and 5 ingredient Fix are the only shows on Food Network that I've ever taken a recipe from and cooked. AND, all of the ones I tried turned out fantastic.

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                                                          JonParker RE: Firegoat Aug 17, 2013 06:11 AM

                                                          I don't hate her on Chef Wanted -- I love Anne too much to ever hate her. But I totally agree that her talents are being wasted. She's the real deal. They need to treat her that way.

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                                                            wincountrygirl RE: Firegoat Aug 17, 2013 08:53 AM

                                                            They toned her down a bit this year on CW - not so much screaming and more compliments and constructive criticism. I am a huge fan of hers.

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                                                              Firegoat RE: wincountrygirl Aug 17, 2013 09:03 AM

                                                              I am a huge fan of her too. I love every recipe I've tried. Just let Anne teach people to cook. She doesn't need to be the female Guy Fieri.

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                                                                DiningDiva RE: Firegoat Aug 17, 2013 01:26 PM

                                                                What have you tried that you liked. I've been seriously underwhelmed by every one of her recipes I've tried. Don't dislike her, just haven't had much luck with her recipes.

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                                                                  semicooking pro RE: DiningDiva Aug 17, 2013 01:33 PM

                                                                  What did she make that was interesting? I watched the entire series and didn't see anything I would want to eat. I am a southern food cook....real southern, i.e., fried chicken, potatoes, sweet potatoes, etc....yum...and Damaris didn't show me anything that was (a) southern or (b) remotely interesting to eat. Everything seemed rushed and amateurish.

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                                                                    DiningDiva RE: semicooking pro Aug 17, 2013 05:35 PM

                                                                    Her recipe for pimento cheese is supposed to be really good. She also made a green bean casserole that I thought looked good and that got excellent reviews from the person who bought it at auction. I think that episode was her turning point.

                                                                    Demaris is a chef instructor at a community college culinary program. I am the director of food service for a very large (5th largest in the U.S.) community college district in California that has 2 culinary arts programs. A lot of community college programs are quite outstanding (Contra Costa in the Bay Area and Kendall College in Chicago come to mind) and substantially less costly than one of the big name culiary institutes.

                                                                    I know most of the chef instructors in our primary culinary arts program as it shares a kitchen with one of my programs. All of them have excellent skill sets and have worked and consulted in outside industry...and most of them could go back to industry if they chose to do so. But more than the skill set, the biggest asset all the instructors possess is the ability to communicate to 18-20 year old students who

                                                                    1) a completely clueless
                                                                    2) have probably not worked in a commercial kitchen
                                                                    3) have no sense of urgency (i.e. as in getting to class at 7:45 am)
                                                                    4) may have substance abuse problems
                                                                    5) may have attitude problems
                                                                    6) may not be committed to a career in the food biz
                                                                    7) have no knife skills
                                                                    8) have no understanding of flavors and senses
                                                                    9) would prefer to be surfing
                                                                    10) think the world owes them a living

                                                                    All of these chef instructors give their students a ration of tough love in addition to solid and servicable skills.

                                                                    On Monday we are opening 3 food service operations in a brand new student union building. We moved in in May and I hired one of the chef instructors to help us with getting some of our operational strategies set up. It was a good investment in terms of what we got as the pay back, particularly in troubleshooting and tweaking new menu items. I also hired about 8 students out of the culinary arts programs to assist in our baking and production departments. I don't expect them to set the world on fire, but I do know that they know what they're doing and will be able to produce.

                                                                    My point with this is that if Demaris is anywhere near as skilled as the culinary instructors with which I work on a routine basis, she probably does have reasonably good cooking abilities and she is probably reasonably able to communicate what she does know. She found her voice in the last couple of episodes, now it's FTVs responsibility to keep developing her...or not. I think if they do, she has a reasonably good shot at being more successful than some of her predecessors.

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                                                                    Firegoat RE: DiningDiva Aug 17, 2013 05:38 PM

                                                                    Short ribs!

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                                                                      semicooking pro RE: Firegoat Aug 17, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                                      Damaris may be an excellent instructor...maybe...but it takes something special to be a network star. There are sooooo many already on the station. She won because the others were so bad...not because she was so special. Again..this is not about her personally....it is the perceived star quality that I do not believe is there. But....we will see.

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                                                                        DiningDiva RE: semicooking pro Aug 17, 2013 06:33 PM

                                                                        Guy Fieri was loud and annoying on his season of FNS. His initial show wasn't all that great either. Then FTV found the right vehicle forim and his star took off. Demaris may or may not have that kind of success. It will depend entirely upon what kind of show they give her and how much they really want to develop her. I think she has a better chance than some of the other winners, but it's certainly a crap shoot.

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                                                                      Njchicaa RE: DiningDiva Aug 17, 2013 07:08 PM

                                                                      I like watching Secrets to learn techniques. Browning stuff (especially tomato paste for bolognese), whipping egg whites, charring and peeling peppers, etc. I learned that from SORC.

                                                                      Her recipes and meal plans, on the other hand, aren't appealing to me. I don't like dark greens, nuts on salads, acorn/butternut squash, etc.

                                                                      I bought her first cookbook as a pre-order---sight unseen. I won't make that mistake again. Nothing I've tried from Cook Like A Rock Star has been amazing. She was Iron Chef Mario Batali's go-to pasta chef but her pasta recipe just doesn't work. I always have to add more oil and moisture and I'm no expert. I am just some random person with Italian grandparents who taught me how to make, knead, roll out, and use homemade pasta.

                                                                      I won't be buying the new book (Own Your Kitchen?). I may not even borrow it from the library.

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                                                                        DiningDiva RE: Njchicaa Aug 17, 2013 09:18 PM

                                                                        Yeah, I made the same mistake with Cook Like a Rock Star.

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                                                                          wincountrygirl RE: Njchicaa Aug 18, 2013 04:39 AM

                                                                          I think what she gives are great tips. I may not make her meals as she does, but I love the tips. Like her meatballs - she browns them and finishes them in the oven before putting them in the sauce. They come out great! And making sure everything is well browned.

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                                                                            DGresh RE: Njchicaa Aug 23, 2013 02:52 AM

                                                                            Oil in pasta? I always use Marcella's pasta recipe (and don't tell her, but I do it in the food processor) and it's perfect every time, no oil, no water, no salt. Just eggs and flour. If I recall the ratio is 3/4 cup flour to one egg but I don't have the book in front of me. It looks very grainy and impossible (almost like wet sand) after whirring in the food processor, but a squeeze with the fingers makes it into a ball that can be worked in the pasta machine (I have a manual atlas). Perfect every time.

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                                                            jmckee RE: JonParker Aug 14, 2013 12:22 PM

                                                            Not because of me. My wife and I really enjoy the show. We've tried several places it's featured and have had a fine meal each time.

                                                            I think some people just troll these boards wanting to hate Guy Fieri's show. Get over it. He's got a show and you don't.

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                                                              JonParker RE: jmckee Aug 14, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                              Well, first of all I've been posting on these boards since 1999, long before anyone except his mother had heard of Guy Fieri. That said, I don't like his personality, I don't like the fact that they've pretty much turned Saturday programming over to him, I don't like his homophobia. He doesn't appeal to me at all.

                                                              I didn't say that the places he goes to are bad. At least some of the ones he's been to in Baltimore are favorites of mine, although others are tourist traps. But I'll never know about a lot of places because I can't stand to watch him.

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                                                                cstumiller RE: JonParker Aug 15, 2013 05:31 PM

                                                                Please excuse me but what does Guy do that is homophobic? I have seen a few episodes and have no idea but would like to know about this intolerable behavior.

                                                                I will not support this person or the network in any way if that is the case.

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                                                                  paulj RE: cstumiller Aug 15, 2013 07:04 PM

                                                                  Why should Guy's opinions affect your support of the network? FN/CC has a number of well known LGBT stars (past and present). Chopped contestants freely talk about their spouse/partner regardless of orientation.

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                                                                    cstumiller RE: paulj Aug 15, 2013 08:43 PM

                                                                    The network does not receive a pass on having a homophobe on regardless of it's other programming. The public should do to Guy (I still have not heard why he is a homophobe) what it did to Paula Deen as these thoughts can't be tolerated or allowed on TV.

                                                                    I would hope that President Obama through an executive order could work with the FCC to remove this crap from our airwaves.

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                                                                      JonParker RE: paulj Aug 15, 2013 09:48 PM

                                                                      Ted Allen, the host of Chopped, is openly gay -- he got his start on the TV show "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy" as the food expert. I used to not mind Fieri, but now I can't tolerate him at all.

                                                                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10...

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                                                                        cstumiller RE: JonParker Aug 16, 2013 07:47 AM

                                                                        Thanks. clearly he should be thrown off the network. I also think a progressive NYC council should look into taking away his license to run a restaurant or to have a state issued liquor license.

                                                                        Clearly like Alec Baldwin, Fieri has people in power that will attempt to profit from his homophobia. What a shame.

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                                                                      Joanie RE: cstumiller Aug 16, 2013 04:18 AM

                                                                      I think you should see for yourself if indeed Guy does anything to be classified as homophobic. One person making that comment doesn't mean anything. I sure have never seen anything on a TV show. No idea if there's stuff going on in the background that I wouldn't see, but I'm not gonna go stomping off the Food Network (not that I watch it that much) without proof.

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                                                                        chicgail RE: Joanie Aug 16, 2013 08:17 AM

                                                                        I don't think Fieri has done anything on a broadcast that was demonstrably homophobic. Here's what his former producer said. It's not just homophobia, but inappropriate gestures and comments about women and sex.

                                                                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10...
                                                                        http://www.grubstreet.com/2011/10/guy...

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                                                                      sparky403 RE: JonParker Aug 16, 2013 01:53 PM

                                                                      Guy Fieri's Homophobia is a Myth hatched by a former Agent etc...

                                                                      His Sister Morgan (who died a couple of years ago) was gay her entire life...

                                                                      Not a huge fan of Guy- but this homophobia stuff is just plain hoey.

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                                                                        JonParker RE: sparky403 Aug 16, 2013 02:24 PM

                                                                        That may be, although I wouldn't use a gay sister to exonerate him from being phobic about gay males.

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                                                                          sparky403 RE: JonParker Aug 16, 2013 08:43 PM

                                                                          On the same point how does everyone get to homophobia? I mean if he's okay with is sister but if you're a gay guy you're the Anti-Christ....Me thinks not...

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                                                                          cstumiller RE: sparky403 Aug 17, 2013 05:33 AM

                                                                          Jon linked to the Huffington Post a much respected main stream news site. What is in the article is appalling and we must stand up against this homophobic mindset.

                                                                          I care little about his Sister and her sexuality and at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with the views of Guy about others. He is obviously a hater.

                                                                          I might add that African-Americans are a 12% of the population. How often do you see black chefs or owners on DDD? heck even when they have them they make sure many of the customers are white.

                                                                          Homophobic..racist.. both Guy and the network.

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                                                                            JonParker RE: cstumiller Aug 17, 2013 05:59 AM

                                                                            I'm actually not sure I'd call the network homophobic. Gay men are all over the Cooking Channel and Barefoot Contessa; Ted Allen is the host of the only bona fide hit they have, and the brilliant Anne Burrell is one of their stars -- I'm not sure the homophobic accusation stands up. And to their credit, they did drop Paula Deen like a hot potato. I'll buy that Guy has his issues, but I'm not sure they extend to FN.

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                                                                              sparky403 RE: cstumiller Aug 18, 2013 10:20 AM

                                                                              Um.... Bob Tuchman is gay also - there's apparently far more to the "story" than you've read.... so read up... has to do more with an agenda than Homophobia..

                                                                              http://www.gay.net/celebrities/2011/1...

                                                                              Also, Anne Burrell is very out of the closet (thanks Ted Allen). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05...

                                                                              So I have no Idea how you get the Idea the The FN is anti-gay?

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                                                                                paulj RE: sparky403 Aug 18, 2013 11:57 AM

                                                                                Add Cat Cora and Susan Feniger (Two Hot Tamales) to the list.

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                                                                                chicgail RE: cstumiller Aug 20, 2013 06:16 AM

                                                                                No evidence that FN is either homophobic or racist. Much evidence to the contrary. GF may be another matter.

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                                                                          Jambie RE: JonParker Aug 17, 2013 07:20 AM

                                                                          I really have no idea what Guy Fieri's personal views are but I would not like to see him banned as one other poster suggested. I would prefer that viewers vote with their remote control and let the decision be made that way. I personally quit watching triple D a while back when he was in a diner with a very young chef who looked wet behind the ears and scared to death to be on tv (as I would be as well.) I guess he accidently insulted Guy and Guy jumped down his throat. I'm surprised it was not edited out but it was a turning point for me in regards to watching the show.

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                                                                        cwdonald RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 14, 2013 10:16 AM

                                                                        They are an entertainment channel with a focus on food, not a cooking channel. Its the same reason sports talk radio doesnt just talk about sports. It widens the audience and is mostly driven by personalities rather than by the actual subject matter. In my opinion the best cooking shows still are on PBS, by people like Rick Bayless (sp?)

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                                                                          James Cristinian RE: cwdonald Aug 14, 2013 04:02 PM

                                                                          I've heard Food Network on at least two different sports radio networks. Both times Giada was a topic, one was who would be easier to score a date with, Giada or Rachel Ray. The winner Rachel, being a bit more of an everyman type, but both are big hits. We also radio guy that hosts a food show on the weekends and pretty much interviews all the Top Chef winners every week.

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                                                                        Cheffrank RE: Thanks4Food Aug 14, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                                        At least she is better than that Flay clone that won a few seasons back. I think he has, thankfully, disappeared.

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                                                                          jujuthomas RE: Thanks4Food Aug 14, 2013 12:02 PM

                                                                          it seems to me that in past seasons the winner's new show aired the day after their win was announced. I guess they've stopped that practice? I checked the FN site and don't find a program listed yet for Damaris. I'll check out an episode or two when it airs, see how it goes.

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                                                                            wincountrygirl RE: jujuthomas Aug 14, 2013 12:11 PM

                                                                            Yes, it did air the next day. Justin was the first that we didn't see for ages. They said Damaris' show will debut in the fall.

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                                                                              ennuisans RE: jujuthomas Aug 14, 2013 12:21 PM

                                                                              Past seasons were judged by the network and the shows were taped between the taping and airing of the finale. Now that they are using viewer voting to decide the winner there's no way to get a show ready on such short notice. On the finale they said her show would be sometime this fall.

                                                                              It's awful how I spent half an hour working out how to make Damaris' concept into a competition show--teaching beaus a recipe, then teaching the dates one, and ending up with a couple a la Dating Game--but it's only because her proposed format is kind of bad and boring. I hope they forget the dating frame and just give her a normal show.

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                                                                                wincountrygirl RE: ennuisans Aug 14, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                                                They do sometimes change the concepts. Melissa's was all about meals she cooked for her family when she won but when her show aired it became $10 meals. And Justin went from molecular gastronomy to a travel show.

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                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: jujuthomas Aug 16, 2013 12:41 AM

                                                                                I think this must be harder to do now that America votes...

                                                                                ~TDQ

                                                                              3. paulj RE: Thanks4Food Aug 16, 2013 12:08 AM

                                                                                LA Times article on her win

                                                                                http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/...

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                                                                                  sparky403 RE: Thanks4Food Aug 16, 2013 01:57 PM

                                                                                  There won't be any show for D - Just like there wasn't any for Justin (I think he got 1 single show?).

                                                                                  They don't make $$ off the food / cooking shows- they make $$ via ratings for Shows like the Next food network star... which they never cast or fund.

                                                                                  The F/N might be doing okay $$ wise but I rarely bother the watch the all chopped, all DDD network.

                                                                                  I still and will always love IC

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                                                                                    madeliner RE: Thanks4Food Aug 16, 2013 08:04 PM

                                                                                    Say what you want about Fieri but he was the last original contestant with a larger than life personality that has won and succeeded after being on this silly show

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                                                                                      sparky403 RE: madeliner Aug 16, 2013 08:47 PM

                                                                                      Oh it's true... for Sure - Guy is an amazing Talent- tons of showman ship, entertaining etc... but he's currently carrying just about the whole network...and frankly nobody is that good...

                                                                                      Do you watch FN now as much as you did say 4-5 years ago? I'll guess no... i

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                                                                                        madeliner RE: sparky403 Aug 17, 2013 10:46 AM

                                                                                        I didn't know he was carrying the whole network, that is ridiculous.

                                                                                        I don't watch FN (except online rarely), I don't have those 'luxury' channels anymore ;)

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                                                                                          sparky403 RE: madeliner Aug 18, 2013 10:25 AM

                                                                                          If you don't watch is rather difficult to make a statement like that isn't it?

                                                                                          Breifly - Guy Fieri is on at least 4 times a day. Ted Allen about the same...

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                                                                                            madeliner RE: sparky403 Aug 18, 2013 11:59 AM

                                                                                            I used to watch FN before I dumped my cable

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                                                                                      semicooking pro RE: Thanks4Food Aug 17, 2013 01:22 PM

                                                                                      It was painful to watch....because it didn't seem that anyone could actually cook well enough to instruct others. All three finalists...but especially the pie guy and the sin guy were unfortunately horrendous to watch. Real amateurs. I know they all are amateurs...but honestly, I don't believe either one of them would be able to rise to the occasion and be "network stars". I am sure nice guys, though...but it wasn't about being nice...but being good enough to be on tv.

                                                                                      Further, where are the others? Where is Arti Party? Where is Big Daddy? Where are these people. Maybe it might be good to consider a rotating group....each one would be on once a month. I dont know...but I think network stars need to be revamped.

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                                                                                        Njchicaa RE: semicooking pro Aug 17, 2013 07:13 PM

                                                                                        Aarti and Big Daddy have been cancelled as well as D'Arabian I suspect. It is amazing that the Sandwich guy is still going but I think he will run out of sandwiches soon and be cancelled as well.

                                                                                        They have also cancelled Aida, Ellie Krieger, Neelys, Secrets of a Restaurant Chef, 5 Ingredient Fix, Semi-Homemade (I think), Rachael Ray's Week in a Day (I think), and maybe even 30 Minute Meals. Has anyone seen any promos in the past year or 2 about a new season of 30 Minute Meals?

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                                                                                          semicooking pro RE: Njchicaa Aug 17, 2013 09:19 PM

                                                                                          I do still see reruns of Semi Homemade...which I love and also Big Daddy. Not sure if any new shows are scheduled. Was thinking...why don't they do something for kids....healthy foods...interesting foods for kids. That might work for a minute.

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                                                                                            paulj RE: semicooking pro Aug 17, 2013 10:29 PM

                                                                                            'cancelled' is a clumsy term when FN has a half dozen 'seasons' of a show on hand. Even if they produce one or two new seasons in a year, most of the episodes will be repeats. You have to pay attention to distinguish new episodes from the repeats. Just because they aren't showing any new episodes now, doesn't mean that there aren't some more in the works, that might appear in November.

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