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I'm looking to splurge and purchase a copper saucepan (around 2.5 quarts), and after doing some reading I've decided I'd prefer one with a tin lining (rather than stainless steel). I'm leaning toward a Mauviel, but I'm not ruling any other brands out.

I've searched the websites of manufacturers, fancy retailers, restaurant supply places, and everywhere else I could think of but I'm not finding what I'm looking for. There's no shortage of stainless-lined pots available for order, and although there are plenty of posts (here and elsewhere) by people talking about their tin-lined saucepans, there are no clues as to what retailers are currently selling them.

I did find a section on Dehillerin's website devoted to tin-lined pots, but there's no telling what brand they are (or how heavy), and even their volume is hard to guess—the only measurement is of their diameter. I am in Los Angeles, so I can't pop into the store to take a look.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any leads or ideas. If you have a tin-lined saucepan, where did you buy it? Do you know of any places that sell them, either online or in the LA area?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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  1. Ebay is awash in used and some new ones. Also, East Coast Tinning (don't have url, google it) sells some newly retinned pots.

    There's a company in Brooklyn making new ones, Hammersmith (aka Brooklyn Copper Pots).

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    1. re: ellabee

      Thanks ellabee! I appreciate these suggestions. I'm looking at East Coast Tinning now. They've got a nice one that looks to be just under 3 quarts; the description says it's stamped "The Design Store, France." I wonder what that is. I guess I'll have to do some research...

    2. Hi, FB:

      Bourgeat: http://www.culinarycookware.com/bourg...

      Rocky Mountain Retinning: http://www.rockymountainretinning.com/

      Mazzetti: http://www.rameria.com/english/

      French Copper Studio: http://www.frenchcopperstudio.com/

      Four and Twenty: http://184.154.229.9/~c4and20k/

      For a start.

      Aloha,
      Kaleo

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      1. re: kaleokahu

        Hey, thanks very much Kaleo. I will check these out!

        1. re: kaleokahu

          The Rocky Mountain set is a real bargain, and *three* count-em-three mm thick. OTOH it is a set of four, maybe you don't want the smaller ones. Still you get the set for $280, compared to $259 for a Hammersmith 2.25qt 2.5mm thick. You could sell the other three on Ebay.

          1. re: mwhitmore

            Hi, mwhitmore:

            Minor clarification: I have (and love) the RMR set, but it is not quite 3mm. My set mikes at an average of 2.8mm. Still thicker than the major producers' current production, and an ASTOUNDING bargain. Another minor point: Peter ran out of the full range of covers, so you can't get all 8 pieces.

            This is the best deal going, by a great margin, if the sizes work for you.

            Rumor has it that fellow CH jljohn may be listing his RMR set (with covers) on eBay sometime soon.

            Aloha,
            Kaleo

            1. re: kaleokahu

              Right, and the alleged 2.5mm are usually 2.3.

              1. re: kaleokahu

                Alas, but no. I had them polished, photographed, and ready to list, but it turns out that my daughter has developed a tremendous affinity for that set. She loves to cook with me, and she was saddened by the prospect of that set disappearing. Most of the copper that I've bought and sold hasn't caused her to flinch, but that one is special. So, for the time being, I'm (or rather, she is) hanging on to it.

                1. re: jljohn

                  Smart daughter.

                  1. re: jljohn

                    Hi, Jeremy:

                    I consider that good news. I too have a fondness for the RMR set. I bought mine while in Denver, met Peter at the shop, and he delivered my pans to me at my hotel--even fixed a minor flaw. There is nothing about these pans to dislike. Mine run closer to 2.8mm.

                    Every time I find a "better" vintage pan of the same size, I consider selling a RMR, but I can't bring myself to do it. We should all be so lucky as to be able to cook in pans of this quality and beauty.

                    Aloha,
                    Kaleo

                    1. re: kaleokahu

                      Funny how that works. I too constantly upgrade, but somehow the bottom end never seems to get sold.

                      1. re: Bigjim68

                        Hi, Jim:

                        I do trade up occasionally, but the ones I'm attached to I have a hard time jettisoning. I have a doufeu that is very thin; it's very old, and has obviously been through a housefire or was used a long time in a hearth. I love that pan.

                        However, I have a strict rule about not duplicating things other than small gratins. If I have one of each size and shape, that's enough for this home cook. If I see a likely replacement, I'll buy and use it awhile, and then decide which piece to resell.

                        Aloha,
                        Kaleo

                2. re: mwhitmore

                  Thanks! From the pictures and description on the website they look pretty nice. I am a little bummed that the lids are no longer available. It's probably worth an email or a call to see whether they expect more anytime soon...

                  1. re: fearlessbiscuit

                    The pans at RMR were a one time purchase I don't think there will be a repeat purchase. Still, if you are looking for a set of saucepans, there is no better value. They are assembled and tinned on premises.

                    I have a collection of the flat universal lids for my miscellaneous pans. They work well, but they are getting pricey.

                    1. re: Bigjim68

                      Hi, Jim:

                      You are right. When I got my RMR set 3 years ago, Peter only had about 20 sets left, so there can't be more than a handful left. At the time, I considered buying all of them to resell.

                      Everything about this set screams quality--the thickness, planishing, the thick wipe of tin, the short grippy handles, even the facets Peter puts in the rivet heads.

                      Peter's cagey about where they came from, but I gather it was some business deal with a European company gone wrong. Peter ended up with all the separate pieces, which he assembles and tins.

                      It's not a drawback, per se, but the only reason not to buy a set is the size range. These are true saucepans, and most Americans are accustomed to think of all-around pans as being larger than these. I think that was the experience of our CH friend jljohn.

                      Aloha,
                      Kaleo

                    2. re: fearlessbiscuit

                      I love my Rocky Mountain set. I thought I would never use the smallest pan, but I actually use it quite a bit. I was able to find lids for all but the smallest pan on eBay.

                      1. re: omotosando

                        And, really, how often do you need a lid for that smallest one?

                  2. re: kaleokahu

                    Kaleo, I purchased one of RMR's copper-pan sets (thanks for your rec!) and have some questions about it. Could I pm you with some pics and my qs, and if so, do you know how to pm on CH? I couldn't find any guidance on the website.

                    If the answers end up being relevant to the broader CH community, I'll post my questions/your answers here. Thanks!

                    1. re: iyc_nyc

                      Sure. Just email me at kaleokahu@gmail.com.

                      Good buy.

                      1. re: kaleokahu

                        Thanks Kaleo! will email you tonight or in the next few days.

                  3. I got my saucepan from Lara Copper, located in Launceston, Tasmania, of all places.

                    http://www.laracopper.com/

                    1. I think that the Dehillerin pans are actually made by Mauviel. A stainless lined pan I got last year certainly was - its stamped with both Dehillerin and Mauviel marks.

                      1. I am not as up on this as some, but it does not seem the big three -- Falk, Bourgeat, or Mauviel -- are cranking out tin lined saucepans. So I'd look on ebay or in stores like Dehillerin that may have some old stock. Also buycoppercookware.com and French Copper Studio plus the guys in Brooklyn. I am not possessed of a micrometer, but I have some old Mauviel saucepans I'd put at 1/8 inch or more, and they are a marvel. Except for the fact it is cute as a button and a great place to "hold" sauces, the heavy tin lined saucepans could put my Bain Marie out of business. The Bain Marie BTW s Waldow, from whom I believe Hammersmith may have acquired some of its chucks (whatever those are), and it is lovely.

                        1. I want to say thanks one more time to everyone that responded to my post. I got a lot of great information from you guys and I really appreciate that you took the time to share your thoughts with me!

                          After agonizing over the many good suggestions I got from all of you, I think I've decided to buy a saucepan from Dehillerin. Although the brand of the pot I order will remain a mystery until I receive and open the box, I'll just need to remind myself that I'm too evolved a consumer to be brand-conscious. :-) On the subject of value, the price isn't bad -- though I could spend less, I could also spend much more -- so I won't feel like a sucker. And when someone asks where I got it I can snootily reply "Paris," which will technically be the truth.

                          I any event, I have 12 days to wait before placing my order. During the checkout process I came across this note: "We do not ship in August. Anyway, you can complete your order on the e-shop, we will process shipment in September." I couldn't ask for a more French shopping experience...

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                          1. re: fearlessbiscuit

                            Hi there, fearless:

                            12 days is plenty long for you to bid on this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171105934290?...

                            This is a much better pan than anything made today, and probably for substantially less money. Factor in another $100 or so for retinning.

                            Aloha,
                            Kaleo

                            1. re: fearlessbiscuit

                              I'll be very surprised if the Dehillerin pan (assuming you complete the order) doesn't turn out to be a Mauviel.

                              Just FYI, there's one very like what I imagine you'll get from Dehillerin now on the big auction site: tin-lined 3mm 2.5 qt Mauviel saucepan : http://www.ebay.com/itm/200953999883

                              Not the drool-worthy pan kaleo has noted, but with perfect interior, if less antiquarian/collector appeal.

                              1. re: fearlessbiscuit

                                Hey fearlessbiscuit,

                                I imagine that you've already purchased, but if not, you can get the volume of the Mauviel pieces from E. Dehillerin by cross referencing on Mauviel's european site. They list the diameters along with the volume in liters, which is close enough to quarts to give you a good idea.

                                And yes, all of the stuff on Dehillerin's website is Mauviel.

                                1. re: fearlessbiscuit

                                  August is their "holiday month". This is true for a lot of Europe but, especially so for France.

                                2. The best place I've seen to buy new tin-lined copper in the US is from Gary at Buy Copper Cookware in PA: http://buycoppercookware.com/

                                  Here are the tin-lined saucepans: http://www.buycoppercookware.com/sauc...

                                  Another option is to use ebay and craigslist and find a good old one, but buycoppercookware is a good place to start for new stock.

                                  1. Your recent responses reminded me that I never closed the loop with an update. I ordered right at the end of August and the saucepan showed up 2 or 3 weeks later. There wasn't any communication from Dehillerin (i.e., I didn't get an email saying it had shipped with a tracking number or anything) but my order status on the website showed that the saucepan was on its way.

                                    And, sure enough, the saucepan I received was Mauviel. It is a beauty, heavy and shiny (at least until I started handling it, but I knew that was the price I'd pay for using copper). Even with the shipping it was a steal—it makes me wish I'd ordered more pieces.

                                    So, anyway, I give Dehillerin a thumbs-up. It was easy enough to order, the saucepan arrived in a reasonable amount of time, and the price was great.

                                    Thanks again to everyone who's responded to this thread with advice. I appreciate it!