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MrsJonesey Aug 9, 2013 08:38 AM

What will you be planting for fall harvest? I plan to pull up the green beans and plant beets, turnips, arugula, kale and swiss chard. The green beans must have read my mind. It's like they are trying to rejuvenate themselves.

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    dfrostnh RE: MrsJonesey Aug 12, 2013 02:25 PM

    what zone are you in? If I plant green beans now, I need to use a low tunnel to protect them from a mid-sept light frost (zone 5 north). I am so far behind that I planted my beans and cukes late so haven't had any yet. I planted parsnips a week and a half ago. They need 110 days but even if I get small parsnips, that will be ok. Not sure how much they will grow before October. I need to get some lettuce planted as well as chard, beets, carrots and kale. Lucky me has a high tunnel!!! We had spinach all winter so I'll be planting spinach too.

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      MrsJonesey RE: dfrostnh Aug 12, 2013 05:50 PM

      I'm in zone 6. I'm not planting beans now. I plan to pull up the ones I planted in spring to plant the fall stuff. It is going to be hard to pull them though since they seem to have gotten their second wind. I have never used tunnels. Too lazy, I guess.

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        dfrostnh RE: MrsJonesey Aug 14, 2013 05:10 AM

        Extending the growing season has become a challenge for me. I have both of Eliot Coleman's books. My husband's family had a large garden for many years but they always planted everything all at once (probably on Memorial Day weekend) so I'm surprised that it has taken so long for gardeners in the US to do some season extending techniques as well as succession planting. I don't want to can a lot of things, I want them fresh. I've had spinach winter over and last year had carrots under straw. Too bad my husband doesn't care for things like kale but I grow some anyway.

    2. DonShirer RE: MrsJonesey Aug 12, 2013 07:41 PM

      Just planted more lettuce, beets, pak-choi, radish, chard, kale and carrots.
      Have to sneak in some more basil--my wife just raided my crop for a recipe she was making.
      And need to pick up more spinach and arugula seed, I ran out.
      And a week ago, I actually planted more green pole beans. I'm hoping they will yield a crop in late September when my current bean harvest has petered out.
      (I'm in Z6 also.)

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        MrsJonesey RE: DonShirer Aug 13, 2013 04:13 PM

        Good luck with your beans.

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          DonShirer RE: MrsJonesey Nov 5, 2013 03:55 PM

          Did get one crop out of them before frost.

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            MrsJonesey RE: DonShirer Nov 5, 2013 07:51 PM

            That is great!

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        sparrowgrass RE: MrsJonesey Aug 14, 2013 05:14 AM

        Broccoli does well here (northern zone 5) when planted in the fall. Those nasty cabbage worms are gone!!

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          MrsJonesey RE: sparrowgrass Aug 14, 2013 01:50 PM

          I should plant broccoli and cauliflower. Those nasty cabbage worms are the reason I don't bother in the spring.

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            Njchicaa RE: MrsJonesey Aug 14, 2013 01:52 PM

            Same here. Planting in the fall is a great idea! I'm going to have to order some seeds.

        2. Njchicaa RE: MrsJonesey Aug 14, 2013 01:51 PM

          I have Swiss chard seeds and I think some lettuce seeds. My beans have done well through the summer so I'm just going to let them keep on going.

          1. weezieduzzit RE: MrsJonesey Aug 20, 2013 10:05 AM

            I'm getting ready to put in another round of tomatoes and beans right now (zone 9.) Beets, kale, chard, broccoli, cauliflower and carrots will go in as soon as it cools down a bit (we're still around 100 degrees.)

            While I'm waiting I'm building and filling a few more raised beds. The current tomatoes, eggplants and peppers have shown no sign of slowing down so it looks like nothing will be ready to be pulled to make room for something else. The herb garden has been less productive so it's time to dig more compost in.

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              MrsJonesey RE: weezieduzzit Aug 21, 2013 07:45 PM

              Well, I was jealous until I read about the 100 degree temperature. I finally got some planting done today, about a week later than I planned. I pulled up the green beans. There was so much beetle larvae and eggs that I put all the plants in black plastic bags. I figure that's several thousand potential beetles that won't be around next year. That is, if the raccoon doesn't tear open the bags before the cooking process is done.

            2. ocpitmaster RE: MrsJonesey Aug 22, 2013 10:58 AM

              In coastal MD; first planting of beans/zucchini/yellow squash/cuc's are out; replanted cuc's(allready yielding) & spinach. Peppers(all varieties) continue to rage; herb garden won't slow down. Tomatoes have been a so-so crop this year; not much yield, but huge, all varieties

              2nd planting will be spinach/turnips/kale; need to amend the soil this weekend.

              Gonna try to over-winter the pepper plants in raised beds
              Anybody have sucess with late planting of onions?

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                dfrostnh RE: ocpitmaster Aug 24, 2013 04:48 AM

                ocpitmaster, what are you amending your soil with? I have some beds in a one year old high tunnel that weren't that great to start with. This year's composted horse manure has a high percentage of pine shavings. I like the lasagna method of building beds but didn't make high enough beds to begin with in the tunnel.

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                  ocpitmaster RE: dfrostnh Sep 11, 2013 12:02 PM

                  Sorry for the delay in replying; my raised beds are a very sandy loam, amending with mushroom compost from Lancaster County, PA. Supplemented with an slow-release 2-4-4 poultry manure and going to top-dress this fall with pine straw. They are 2 by 6 framed on-end with southern exposure. Gonna attempt to over-winter pepper plants

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                    dfrostnh RE: ocpitmaster Sep 12, 2013 05:02 AM

                    Thanks for the reply. Envy your mushroom compost! This year I should cover beds with grass clippings which have already started to be grass plus leaves.

                    Good luck with pepper plants.

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                      ocpitmaster RE: dfrostnh Sep 12, 2013 12:00 PM

                      I wonder if it wouls make sense to supplement the compost with a slow-release fertilizer now? Would there be any benefit to incorporating now as opposed to adding at planting time?
                      Just curious

                      Goona try the peppers; worst case scenario, have to buy new plants next year.

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                        dfrostnh RE: ocpitmaster Sep 14, 2013 05:06 AM

                        I think you can read a thousand opinions on fertilizers and I'm always too cheap to get a soil test. But, we did not get composted horse manure on the beds in spring this year because of all the rain. I know one year a bed of spinach was planted before compost and a later bed was planted after compost was added and the later bed did a lot better. Now that I'm out of organic fertilizer (general blend), I'm making my own mix that includes alfalfa meal. I bought several bags of different things to make my own mix but didn't have the complete recipe given during a seed starting lecture (will have to contact speaker for full recipe) by a great organic market gardener.

                        I think it makes sense to put composted manure on the beds in fall but I usually don't get around to it. Will see how my recipe does on beds in our unheated high tunnel.

                        Market gardener told me he did better this year than friends because he uses raised beds. Well, I guess every year is different and we just keep trying! Good luck with pepper plants. Are you going to use a light table? Mine is still in place from last winter.

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                dfrostnh RE: MrsJonesey Sep 1, 2013 05:29 AM

                Finally got fall planting started in the high tunnel. Planted parsley, cilantro, five kinds of lettuce, spinach and beets. My rows are only 3 feet so five kinds of lettuce really isn't a lot. Last year was our first winter with the high tunnel (unheated). I made planting mistakes but we had fresh spinach all winter. In the spring, I planted some of my tomato and pepper plants in the high tunnel and the sides were rolled up for the summer. I thought the plants might die from the heat which sometimes got over 100 but instead the tomatoes are lush and healthy whereas the ones outside are pitifully scrawny thanks to all the cold rain in early summer. My husband built the high tunnel after studying lots of ideas and decide on a cape style wood frame (cheapest material for us) rather than hoops to be stronger against winter snow loads (the snow usually slides off). Hoping the late planted green beans will get a second crop. I've had good luck with Taverna filet green beans.

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                  Georgia Strait RE: MrsJonesey Sep 2, 2013 08:11 AM

                  i'm surprised about the swiss chard (ie pulling it out) tho of course, I am not sure what region you're in as i'm not sure what zone 6 means (is that USDA?)

                  sw chard grows here near Vancouver, BC thru the winter and the type we have is somewhat frost proof

                  Swiss Chard "Bright Lights" - Territorial Seeds in the USA ---- I believe good old Stokes Seeds (St Catherines ON and over the border in NY) has it too.

                  the equivalent to Territorial up here in BC is West Coast Seeds - non GMO etc
                  http://www.westcoastseeds.com/

                  we just snip off a few leaves from each of the main plants - and it keeps on going - maybe even volunteers next year.

                  decorative too. (til the deer enjoy it - fair enuf

                  )

                  and since as CH'ers we like food too - it's interesting to read about swiss chard (i'm starting to sound evangelical!)

                  here is one example article -
                  http://www.cspinet.org/nah/articles/o...

                  1. Shrinkrap RE: MrsJonesey Sep 7, 2013 08:10 PM

                    Not for fall harvest, but for winter and spring I plant kale, collards,chard,sugar snaps, garlic, shallots in November. Nor Cal, Sunset 14.

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                      Goatjunky RE: MrsJonesey Sep 9, 2013 06:42 PM

                      I highly recommend sproutrobot.com. you enter your zip code and it will give you a planting schedule. Highly useful for me as I am relatively new to gardening.

                      1. EWSflash RE: MrsJonesey Oct 5, 2013 07:36 PM

                        I'm in Z9, Sunset 12-13. My basil is somewhat resurrecting itself by reseeding from our horrible summer. I plan to plant kale and beets after the basil bites the big one.

                        1. Shrinkrap RE: MrsJonesey Nov 3, 2013 05:28 PM

                          Over the last week, parsley, chard, collards, mustard greens, kale, and sugar snaps.

                          1. Novelli RE: MrsJonesey Nov 4, 2013 09:58 AM

                            Got the garlic started a couple weeks back, and I've planted my onions seeds for February/March spacing/transplanting.

                            Right now I have the following going:

                            mustard greens
                            collard greens
                            swiss chard
                            kale
                            green beans
                            sweet peas
                            broccoli
                            cauliflower
                            cabbage
                            mesculin lettuces and arugula
                            beets
                            broccoli rabe
                            carrots - fingers crossed!
                            radishes

                            My honeydew melons are almost ready to pull out. I got 16 beauties this year. Sweeter than ever, but they're really hating the cold nights.

                            I got some bumper crops and new growth on my peppers and eggplants. They're still producing, but for how long? I don't know. Just taking advantage of it until they give up.

                            I was going to pull the tomatoes this weekend, but found some were coming back and producing, so I'll let them go a little longer to see what comes of it. So far I've canned 61 quarts of whole tomatoes this year.

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                              MrsJonesey RE: Novelli Nov 4, 2013 11:22 AM

                              Braggart! :-) I'm jealous. We've had several hard frosts now.

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                                chefathome RE: MrsJonesey Nov 8, 2013 08:55 PM

                                ...and we have 25 cm of snow on the ground! Zone 1b.

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                                  MrsJonesey RE: chefathome Nov 9, 2013 06:25 AM

                                  Yikes! Something tells me you are more accustomed to it than me though. :-)

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                                Shrinkrap RE: Novelli Nov 4, 2013 02:04 PM

                                You inspired me to try onions again last year, and I did get some, but SHEESH! What a lot of work, time and space for not much yield. At least for me. Sigh...but I am trying again.

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