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What is this - Equal Opportunity Hail?

ChefJune Aug 9, 2013 01:06 AM


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    zin1953 Aug 9, 2013 07:22 AM

    When I was a kid back in the 1960s, I'd come from school and one of the TV stations always showed movies after school . . . every once in a while, they'd do "theme weeks": Westerns, Romance, Oscar winners (well, this was LA), SciFi . . . and whenever they would show a week of 1950s Japanese monster movies (Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, etc.), the promo ad for that upcoming week would show Tokyo being destroyed over and over with the announcer doing the voice over touting the upcoming special week of films. He would close by saying, "So join us all next week for the Channel 7 movie show as we try to figure out: WHY JAPAN . . . "

    That's a longwinded way of saying we're all trying to figure out, "Why France???"

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    1. re: zin1953
      budnball Aug 9, 2013 08:22 AM

      To paraphrase Elvis Costello, It's nobody's fault, it just seems to be their turn.

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        INDIANRIVERFL Aug 12, 2013 09:28 AM

        In the wine barrel? How boarding school.

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      INDIANRIVERFL Aug 12, 2013 09:28 AM

      So here is the other thought. And please feel free to shoot down this big fat conjecture as needed.

      Massive pruning by hail will result in concentration of effort in the remaining grapes. If conditions are conducive to a vintage harvest, would that not indicate quantity purchases of the harvest for those with the ability to cellar wines?

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      1. re: INDIANRIVERFL
        zin1953 Aug 12, 2013 09:47 AM

        That's not how hail affects the vines . . .

        Hail doesn't prune. It destroys.

        -- Leaves are not plucked from the shoot; they may remain attached but are shredded.

        -- Clusters are not removed by the stem, but are bombarded by hailstones. This will result in some clusters ripped off and tossed on the ground, yes, but mostly it results in grapes being broken open yet staying attached to the cluster, and the cluster staying attached to the vine.

        -- Canes are not carefully pruned from the vine, but battered and broken by the impact of the hailstones. (Think of bending back a green branch of a tree until it breaks, and then leave it bent-and-broken on the tree.)

        This can result not only in rotten and moldy grapes, but leaves the vines themselves open to disease, infestation, and more.

        1. re: zin1953
          INDIANRIVERFL Aug 12, 2013 09:54 AM

          I appreciate your response on two levels.

          The time spent to educate me.

          Shot by a sniper, and not a pray and spray.

          As I am sure they are out doing damage control, what do you think will be the result to the eventual crop?

          1. re: INDIANRIVERFL
            ChefJune Aug 12, 2013 12:16 PM

            Depends upon the extent of the damage whether or not there will BE a crop for many producers. And one would probably be correct to predict a very small harvest.

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