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[Hirohisa] New, kappo style Japanese restaurant

kosmose7 Aug 7, 2013 09:26 PM

A new kappo style Japanese restaurant called "Hirohisa" has opened on Thompson Street near Dominique Ansel Bakery. Chef owner Hirohisa Hayashi is from Fukui Prefacture, Japan, and the menu emphasizes seasonality with lots of ingredients purchased from greenmarket as well as those imported from Japan.

The menu has a la carte, 7 course omakase ($100), and 9 course omakase ($150). Most dishes are non-sushi items. I tried 9 course omakase and In general, I didn't find any luxury ingredients like toro, abalone, etc., but all (rather humble) ingredients were really fresh and perfectly prepared. I particularly liked grilled Japanese sardine (which was so tender and rich), and grilled Iberico pork with shio kouji, as well as uni don. King salmon was a winner too, with crispy skin outside and tender, juicy meat inside.

Hirohisa
73 Thompson St
(between Spring St & Broome St)
New York, NY 10012
(212) 925-1613
hirohisa-nyc.com

 
 
 
 
 
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    foodwhisperer RE: kosmose7 Aug 8, 2013 02:49 AM

    I will definitely try it. However, the ingredients may be humble the prices are not so humble. Is there any restaurant that you can compare it with for style? Is it like Kura, Bugs, Rockmeisha, En, Brushstroke,?

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      kosmose7 RE: foodwhisperer Aug 8, 2013 07:33 AM

      Since Hirohisa is a kappo restaurant, which means it serves mostly non-sushi dishes, I would say it's more like seafood and meat incorporated into Kajitsu style. Seasonal ingredients presented in a simple way (Although the presenation is not as fancy as that of former chef Nishihara san).

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        foodwhisperer RE: kosmose7 Aug 8, 2013 07:49 PM

        I'll try it, then I'll compare. The kappo omakase at Kura is good.

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      Lau RE: kosmose7 Aug 8, 2013 08:18 AM

      interesting...sounds good albeit a bit pricey for what you got

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        kosmose7 RE: Lau Aug 8, 2013 11:36 AM

        I agree, Although everything was delicious, it was more like $120-ish... rather than $150.

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          Lau RE: kosmose7 Aug 8, 2013 11:55 AM

          yah i still want to try it

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          UES Mayor RE: Lau Nov 14, 2013 01:05 AM

          Had a chance to go again there last night-just as sublime as my first experience. Had the nine course omakase. Although portions are small, they are perfect sized for the amount of food you will be served-in fact I was bordering on being a bit uncomfortably full by meal's end. Had the most perfectly done rabbit for meat course. This place is great for fish lovers who like meat as well. Everything is done so well and the space is truly zen like. The chef who I believe is owner as well is so nice and accomodating especially if you want to substitute a course. You can also order a la carte and he will customize according to your wishes. I will definitely be supporting this wonderful oasis of a restaurant!!

        3. sgordon RE: kosmose7 Aug 9, 2013 06:07 AM

          I'm curious what the two extra courses were between the seven and nine course options - were they worth $25 each? Especially with no luxury ingredients? I'd think for that price (and omakase-size portions) they'd involve some o-toro or something on that level.

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            kosmose7 RE: sgordon Aug 9, 2013 08:39 AM

            I wouldn't know because I haven't tried the $100 omakase, but checking out their menu prices, an a la carte appetizer (and none of them has luxury ingredients like otoro) costs $15-$22 (and MP). So any two additional dishes will easily reach the $50 extra price level, under their pricing system.

            http://hirohisa-nyc.com/menu/index.html.

            So like I said, the 9 course, $150 dinner I had was more like $120-ish to me and the performance-to-price ratio was not really good, although everything was delicious.

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              Silverjay RE: sgordon Aug 9, 2013 11:48 AM

              Wrong season for o-toro or big fatty fish, but awabi is a summer high level item that could have been included...Everything looks really nice and the decor too- especially a local touch like exposed brick. But man, I paid exactly that for a decadent kappo meal at one of those "membership" restaurants in Tokyo last year that featured as a main a probably 10-12oz pile of fresh wild winter yellowtail sashimi among a half dozen other nice courses and a couple of drinks including an expensive shochu...Maybe they step things up in the Fall/Winter when better items become available- assuming they keep prices stable. But I'm assuming you are paying a premium for this location.

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                foodwhisperer RE: Silverjay Aug 9, 2013 06:02 PM

                By winter Yellowtail, is that Buri? I love that fish. Torafugu is in season also in December. Winter is a good time for fish in Japan.

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                  Silverjay RE: foodwhisperer Aug 9, 2013 08:35 PM

                  Yup. Kan-buri (寒鰤), which starts in December. I think I actually prefer it to maguro...Fugu I could do without as it has a trophy quality to it on kappo menus and jacks up the price. But something like buri or other nice Fall/Winter stuff could elevate the experience... It was actually buri-shabu that I had and then we added rice to the broth at the end, cooked it down, and ate that as a closer before dessert. It would be cool if Hirohisa can bring that sort of thing here. But again, it's pretty pricey during summer season- although $100 flat for a 7-course isn't so bad. It's the extra $28 in tip and tax that pushes the value envelope. And a la carte ordering looks absurd. So, sorry, I guess this is just a rant. Looks great, but...

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                    foodwhisperer RE: Silverjay Aug 10, 2013 03:57 AM

                    I like the rants. I have recently over the past 2 years maybe seen buri here , but only in winter. I didn't even think it was available in Japan outside of winter. Same with say the real amaebi, I only see those around maybe december to february. But I guess the fish are in the ocean all year, so a few must show up. Cod fish season here in NY is winter. But yet you see it on menus in warmer weather. My experience is that Cod out of season usually has parasites. So I never eat Cod in warm seasons. I would feel the same way about Buri.

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                      kosmose7 RE: foodwhisperer Aug 10, 2013 08:44 AM

                      Well, at least in New York, any fish seems available year round right out of freezer. LOL
                      http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/nyr...

                      FYI, Buri is not a different species from Hamachi, which is found everywhere in NY. In Japan, they call medium-sized, cultured Buri (20cm - 60cm) "Hamachi". During summer season, its counterpart would be Kanpachi, although I prefer Buri or Hamachi.

                      God, I miss Torafugu (虎河豚) Karaage... A handful of Japanese restaurants in New York such as Sugiyama or Restaurant Nippon offer Torafugu Karaage in winter (at exorbitant prices) but it's not any way near the quality of that in Japan (or even in Korea).

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                        Silverjay RE: kosmose7 Aug 10, 2013 11:19 AM

                        Inada, warasa, buri- is how they are referred to from smallest to largest in Tokyo. Inada, the really young lean summer yellowtail, is a great sashimi. Fresh wasabi and a bit of shoyu and a slippery pile of inada! So good...Wild kan-buri from Himi in Toyama Prefecture has now somehow cornered the market on high-end branding (like Oma in Aomori for maguro)....You are right, hamachi pretty much refers to farmed medium-sized fish. Though my understanding is that hamachi is also the Kansai word for that particular sized yellowtail. As it is now, I usually see hamachi only at cheaper places in Japan...Kanpachi is different, though similar fish.Obviously the fatty wild winter buri are the best of the lot.

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                          kosmose7 RE: Silverjay Aug 10, 2013 12:59 PM

                          > Obviously the fatty wild winter buri are the best of the lot.
                          Of course. Nothing can beat the taste and flavor of fish in season! :)

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                          Ricky RE: kosmose7 Aug 10, 2013 09:54 PM

                          I've had gomafugu karage at 15 East a few months ago, any noticeable differences between gomafugu and torafugu?

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                            kosmose7 RE: Ricky Aug 11, 2013 07:38 AM

                            Well, the reason why Torafugu is the most expensive in Japan is because it is the most flavorful of all the fugu family. Gomafugu or Kusafugu can sometimes be found at New York's Japanese restaurants, at a lot more reasonable prices than Torafugu. They taste milder (or have less flavor) than Torafugu, and the difference in flavor becomes more obvious if they are prepared as sashimi. Howewer, well-made karaage of these other fugus taste good enough, IMHO.

                            photo 1: well-made Torafugu karaage outside NY.

                            photo 2: Torafugu karaage @ Restaurant Nippon. While good, the batter could have more seasoning (soy sauce + sake + ginger) flavor. Their version was served with salt instead.

                            photo 3: Kusafugu karaage @ Sushiden.

                            photo 4: Kusafugu karaage @ Jukai.

                             
                             
                             
                             
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                UES Mayor RE: kosmose7 Sep 1, 2013 02:30 AM

                Had a chance ti try this new Japanese restaurant. I honestly didn't take notes but can only remember that the experience was sublime! We had the omakase -9 courses-comprised on the most delicious bites of meat, fish and vegetables. I am doing an injustice by not describing individual dishes but only the amazing tastes linger in my brain at this hour. I never tasted better lamb or beef and the sashimi we got as a supplement was ethereal.Space is a bit sparse in a good way-very Zen like and perfect for conversation. The owner/chef was extremely personable as was the waitstaff. I can only compare quality and style to a smaller version of Brushstroke. This place is a definite must try!

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                  nomadmanhattan RE: kosmose7 Nov 14, 2013 02:28 PM

                  I have been planning to try but a Japanese foodie friend warned me about the price was high for what i would be getting. So I have not been. Price is not really the most important issue, as both of us have 3 digits dinner here and there every week. But I do care about the food and the overall experiences.

                  I am still on the fence. Would you mind elaborate a little bit more about the ingredients/seasoning and prep? Thanks.

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                    UES Mayor RE: nomadmanhattan Nov 15, 2013 04:26 AM

                    I can only elaborate by saying the flavors are authentic Japanese in every way and each morsel of food crafted with perfection. Why are you on the fence about trying it especially if price not that big of a concern? Trust me!! Then you'll thank me after your meal for such a wonderful recommendation! I also have to add that the personality of the chef/owner added tremendously to the dining experience.

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                      nomadmanhattan RE: UES Mayor Nov 17, 2013 09:32 AM

                      Ok, I am convinced :) Will make a reservation for this week. Then I will report back.

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                    Lau RE: kosmose7 Nov 15, 2013 04:45 PM

                    i think im going here next weekend, how much food was the 9 course? the reason i ask is i tend to find these big course dinners to be too much food, so debating whether to do 7 or 9

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                      UES Mayor RE: Lau Nov 16, 2013 02:30 AM

                      9 course was $150-I was a bit stuffed by the end -i didn't have any sake cause I'm on a diet-lol

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                        Lau RE: UES Mayor Nov 16, 2013 06:22 AM

                        yah 9 courses is almost always some massive overkill, ill do the 7 course

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                          UES Mayor RE: Lau Nov 18, 2013 04:26 AM

                          I failed to mentioned I did order grilled vegetables prior to my omakase cause I was starving while waiting for friends to arrive.

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                      foodwhisperer RE: kosmose7 Dec 2, 2013 08:25 PM

                      I finally got to Hirohisa. Great location ( easy parking) in SoHo.
                      The setting is clean, serene, similar in style to places I've been to in Japan. In NYC , maybe similar in looks to Kura a little bit or Ichimura, In any case every dish was excellent. Although it is said that this is a kappo style restaurant, if you get the Omakase 7 or 9 course meal, it is very much like a "Kyo-ya style" kaiseki. Not a true kaiseki meal like you would get in Kyoto. Not even close to that. But Every dish at hirohisa is prepared with care. The ingredients are high quality and fresh seasonal. My friend got the 7 course ( plus a chawanmushi) I got the 9 course. You get 3 amuses plus the courses.
                      The 3 extra dishes were a scallop and nagaimo dish, a roasted pacific oyster, and clear soup with buri. Not sure if the Oden with awabi and turnip was in both 7 and 9, but it was excellent.
                      The chawanmushi with uni and lobster was very good ( yep it had ginko nuts). The colorado lamb( pic attached) came with the 9 course, the 7 course meat dish was the Washu Short Rib. They say the 9 course is "higher end". The 7 course is enough food. The 9 course was perfect for me, as I was hungry. The sashimi was high quality. An ikura rice dish was last dish with side of pickled veggies. Then dessert was red bean soup with chestnut. I'm skipping descriptions, I didn't write anything down, took some pics. A few dishes featured tofu. A definite place to check out. They also have ala carte dining. The service exceptional. I suggest going ASAP, because as soon as a NYT review hits it will be as hard to get into as Kyo Ya. I highly recommend this restaurant.

                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
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                        Lau RE: foodwhisperer Dec 2, 2013 08:35 PM

                        very nice, i liked this place too..i need to write it up

                        the 7 course was plenty of food for me...9 i wouldve been way too full

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                          foodwhisperer RE: Lau Dec 3, 2013 03:57 AM

                          Going with 2 people, you can have one person get 7 course and one a 9. Averaging down to 8. I'm not sure If you can get the lamb dish with the 7 course, but I would ask , even pay a surcharge for it, if necessary.

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                            Lau RE: foodwhisperer Dec 3, 2013 03:02 PM

                            lamb is your fav dish?

                            id go a la carte next time, i always find these tasting menus to be too much food

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                              foodwhisperer RE: Lau Dec 3, 2013 08:19 PM

                              The lamb was excellent. It was cooked perfectly. ( photo in previous post). It was one of my favorites. The Oden with awabi and turnip was a favorite, so was the cripsy rice coated madai. It was all good. 7 course comes out cheaper than a la carte and I don't think that is too much food. But if I went ala carte, I'd get the Oden, the lamb and maybe the pressed sushi, and the crispy rice coated fish.( fish varies). Maybe add a chawanmushi or a clear soup .

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                                Lau RE: foodwhisperer Dec 3, 2013 08:25 PM

                                i know but i wouldnt normally order as much food as was in the 7 course

                                i had the 7 course and it was fine, but when i go back id just get a la carte

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                                  foodwhisperer RE: Lau Dec 3, 2013 08:28 PM

                                  Oh Ok. I understand. I'd try the lamb, if you like lamb.

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                                    Lau RE: foodwhisperer Dec 4, 2013 03:34 AM

                                    yah id def try the lamb

                                    i normally just get the tasting menu once or twice at places like hirohisa solely bc the restaurant specializes in it and i'd feel dumb not trying it, but tasting menus are not my thing its just too much food

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                                      foodwhisperer RE: Lau Dec 4, 2013 06:04 PM

                                      I usually order a la carte at Kyo Ya. I've had the tasting menu and I know what I like and order what I like. Same at Recette, same at many places. But Usually first time or two I get tasting menu. Jungsik same thing. I order dishes I know I like.

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                                        Lau RE: foodwhisperer Dec 4, 2013 07:39 PM

                                        yah agreed

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