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dyippie Aug 7, 2013 07:46 PM

one table chinese banquet in Richmond without breaking the bank?

any suggestions.. no sharks fin or abalone or other "delicacies"

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    dyippie Aug 11, 2013 11:37 PM

    thank you for the suggestions.. have not yet decided, info overload .. but thank you

    1. KarenDW Aug 8, 2013 12:38 AM

      the menu you listed is very similar to what my family would order :) I think that within Richmond, Continental would be a reasonable choice. If you are willing to head a little outside of Richmond, our family likes Koon Bo at 41st Ave. & Fraser Street.

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      1. re: KarenDW
        grayelf Aug 8, 2013 06:04 AM

        Plus one on Big Chef (and I have been!). Also take a look at Good Choice on Fraser if you're okay with going outside of Richmond.

        1. re: grayelf
          LotusRapper Aug 8, 2013 08:34 AM

          My only beef with Good Choice is the space is small. For a party of 10 it'll feel confined.

          1. re: LotusRapper
            grayelf Aug 8, 2013 09:09 AM

            True dat. I don't mind the table in the southwest corner for a larger group, but it is definitely not a generous space.

      2. moyenchow Aug 7, 2013 09:13 PM

        Can you Read Chinese? If you are in Vancouver I suggest picking up one of Chinese daily newspapers, Sing Tao or Ming Pao to browse the restaurant section for summer deals.

        If you don't want shark fin or abalone I think you can get 10 person banquet with lobster and seafood for about $250 - $300.

        Although Empire is advertising a set meal with with shark fin & abalone for $398.

        If you cannot read Chinese, can you offer a price range and dishes you would like to have? I can scan the paper quickly to see if anything fits the bill.

        Just a word a caution, it's wedding season in Vancouver so trying to get a table on the weekend may be really tough. A lot of the top restaurants will be booked fully or partially for wedding banquets.

        I suggest trying to coordinate a dinner during Monday to Thursday. You maybe able to get a deal and customize a menu to your liking if you speak with the manager of the restaurant. Just makes sure you get everything in writing (costs and the exact dishes you want served, even weight of the lobster/crab).

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        1. re: moyenchow
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          dyippie Aug 7, 2013 10:35 PM

          thank you so much for your notes.. I do not read chinese...

          this is sort of menu I have done in Monterey Park except I have one cousin who eats no seafood so I did less seafood than usual.

          Peking Duck 2 way (lettuce wrap second way)
          corn and chicken soup & hot and sour soup
          honey garlic spare ribs
          Squid with salt n pepper
          Dungeness or lobster with ginger and scallions
          Leaves of chinese snow peas sauted with garlic
          Steamed ling cod
          Whole crispy fried chicken
          Shrimp with black bean sauce (no bell peppers in anything)
          beef tenderloin cubes
          braised string beans
          peking pork chops
          braised mushrooms in oyster sauce
          yang chow fried rice
          crispy fried noodles

          no desert

          we are looking to have dinner next Tuesday night

          1. re: dyippie
            LotusRapper Aug 7, 2013 11:10 PM

            Your menu (and posts) suggest you are leaning towards Cantonese fare. Pretty much all (except tiny hole-in-walls) Canto restaurants will accommodate your above sample menu for a group of 10 without difficulty. But like Moyenchow wisely suggested, book with the manager if possible, go through each dish and make sure the prices and portions are clearly specified and understood by all parties, in writing.

            Are you coming up from LA (Monterey Park) or are you local ? I suspect the former. Regardless, if you have a relative/friend here in Vancouver who might be able to scope out some options (or finalize with the shortlisted option) in person, all the better.

            Good Cantonese fare restaurants can be, ironically, crazy hard to suggest in Vancouver, simply because it's the "oldest" of immigrant cuisines in N. America. It's so homogenized into local Vancouver culture that it no longer seems like an ethnic cuisine. And all genres of Chinese regional cuisines invariably feature some Cantonese fare in their menus whether intentional or not. Well, that may be slight bit of an exaggeration, but it's just so ingrained and pervasive of a cuisine.

            Back to some reasonably-priced possibilities in Richmond (again w/o knowing your budgetary range) that I've been to:

            Master Hung
            http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/14/1425757/restaurant/Vancouver/Master-Hung-BBQ-Restaurant-Richmond

            Continental Seafood
            http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/14/180417/restaurant/Vancouver/Continental-Seafood-Restaurant-Richmond

            South Ocean Seafood
            http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/14/181689/restaurant/Vancouver/Richmond-Central/South-Ocean-Seafood-Richmond

            Lucky Tao
            http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/14/1540845/restaurant/Vancouver/Central-Richmond/Lucky-Tao-Chinese-Seafood-Restaurant-Richmond

            And this I've *not* been to:

            Big Chef
            http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/14/153141...

            One final note ..... with recent trends in Chinese immigration, Szechuan, Hunan, Northern (Shanghai, Beijing, Shandong regions), Taiwanese restaurants are starting to become the new "norm". Not that Cantonese restaurants are going to disappear, BUT their numbers are not growing nor being replenished when some go out of business or get "re-branded". There are still lots of smaller casual, cheap-eats noodle/wonton/congee houses around, but the mid-bracket "typical" Cantonese restaurants are definitely not as plentiful as they were in the '80s and '90s.

            1. re: LotusRapper
              LotusRapper Aug 7, 2013 11:25 PM

              Here's a pretty complete directory of all Chinese establishments in the Greater Vancouver area:

              http://www.chinesebites.com/

              I find the cross-filtering a bit confusing and ambiguous, 'tho.

            2. re: dyippie
              moyenchow Aug 8, 2013 11:24 AM

              Thanks for posting the dishes, it is actually quite helpful. Although that is a lot of food for ten people!

              Most of your dishes are actually not what I consider Banquet style dishes (dishes served for Important birthdays, wedding and births). Most are common family dishes, which you go to eat when you don't feel like cooking at home.

              As a result I wouldn't either bother going to a high end or even a mid end Cantonese Restaurant, especially since you may have a seafood restriction.

              You need a solid mid range restaurant. I probably would recommend Big Chef or Hoi Tong (but there closed on Tuesday)

              Also is there anyone in your party that can read & speak Chinese? If there is I think you can get a tasty meal with about 10 of your above dishes for about $150 tax included.

              Ask for the "Wor Choi" menu. This menu is meant for everyday dinners. Usually you'll get to pick 4,6 or 8 dishes from a list of about 40 common family dishes. The restaurant will included a traditional Chinese soup, white rice (Which you can upgrade to fried rice for a small fee), dessert and a choice either a steamed fish or a poached chicken or crab prepared how you like.

              I saw a Richmond restaurant advertise an 8 dish "woh Choi" meal for $98. If you add a 2 way Peking duck for about $35 and a crispy noodle for $15, that should be 15 dishes for about 150 with taxes included. I think you can even get away with 6 dish "woh choi" meal if add the duck & noodles.

              The problem is most of these "woh Choi" menus are only available in Chinese, especially at mid range restaurants.

              Most Chinese restaurants will have A La Carte menus translated into English. If you had to order the same 15 items A la carte, you are probably looking at $180 -$190, if not more because of the seafood component.

              So I very much hope you have a person who is Chinese fluent in your group.

              Sorry for the long post but I hope you find this helpful.

              1. re: moyenchow
                LotusRapper Aug 8, 2013 12:11 PM

                Excellent point, MC !

                Those dishes are easily found in "Wor Choi" ("set dishes" or "set combo") menus which are often separate from the a-la-carte menus.

                And yes, even if price is not a factor, there isn't much point getting these dishes from any place higher than a mid-point restaurant, you'd just end up throwing away extra $.

                It's not uncommon for Chinese restaurants to close on Tuesdays, so make sure to call ahead the ones you've narrowed down and confirm their operating days and hours.

                Good luck !

                1. re: moyenchow
                  grayelf Aug 8, 2013 12:57 PM

                  Just to clarify, Hoi Tong is closed on Tuesdays but Big Chef is open.

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