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"Craft Beer" now available in "beer floats".

Fake Name Aug 7, 2013 08:01 AM

Saw in the UT today that the local purveyors of undoubtedly high quality "craft" beer is also offering the liquid gold with a scoop of ice cream.

So, we're to believe this craft beer is so culinarily important, and beer guzzlers have such high-brow discriminating palates, that these crafty, artesian pillars of fine brew can be *improved* with the addition of a scoop of ice cream?

How is this NOT a fetish?

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    RB Hound Aug 10, 2013 09:46 PM

    I think I know what set off Fakey:

    http://blog.timesunion.com/dowdondrin...

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    1. re: RB Hound
      JAB Aug 11, 2013 06:28 AM

      No, he said "Craft Beer".

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        RB Hound Aug 11, 2013 10:22 AM

        I'm not sure he draws the distinction, JAB. In fact, many of his comments seem to hint more at your Blue Moon style "crafts".

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        LStaff Aug 12, 2013 07:49 AM

        "Blue Moon Belgian White Beer combined with Cointreau Orange Liqueur and orange juice whipped with soft-serve ice cream"

        Actually that does not sound as bad as a Sam Adams Boston Lager concoction they also had on the menu the last time I visited a Red Robin (give me a break I have kids. lol) Coriander and orange flavors of the witbier combined with the rest of the ingredients would probably make a delicious Creamsicle® like drink.

      3. jmtreg Aug 8, 2013 02:05 PM

        This has been done for quite some time. I remember having a stout beer float that the Linkery (topped with bacon, of course) about four years ago. I didn't like it, but it was because the ice cream was a lot sweeter than the beer, and so I only tasted the bitter notes of the beer.

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          Jim Dorsch Aug 9, 2013 03:53 AM

          They did something like that at the AHA conference in Manchester, NH, back in 1991 (or thereabouts). The beer was Blackwell Stout.

           
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          Saabiar Aug 8, 2013 10:51 AM

          You may be interested in this :-)

          http://thebeeroness.com/

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            DoctorChow Aug 8, 2013 11:46 AM

            Beer as an ingredient in cooking works really well in lots of things. It's the other way around that never seems to hit me right -- things added to beer. For example, I like chiles a lot, but chili beer? Yuk. I'll try a beer float, though... I shouldn't say "I don't like it" if I've never had it, I guess, and some of the posts on this thread make a good one sound pretty tasty.

          2. Stiflers_Mom Aug 7, 2013 07:09 PM

            Craft beer floats are soooo this morning.

            http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/bl...

            1. mcgrue Aug 7, 2013 03:06 PM

              I sometimes combine wine and butter and serve it with fish.

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              1. re: mcgrue
                Fake Name Aug 7, 2013 03:51 PM

                Do you serve Château d'Yquem with a quenelle of creme fraiche?

                Didn't think so. To do so would disserve both the wine and the cream.

                Nobody would dream of doing something like that with a valuable wine, yet the beer fetishers will have you believe beer and wine are on the same par.

                Hey, I lke beer. I drink a lot of it, and not all of it is PBR. But I refuse to elevate the naked emperor beyond rationality.

                1. re: Fake Name
                  Josh Aug 7, 2013 04:09 PM

                  OK, gramps.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/16/din...

                  Caution: education ahead.

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                    Fake Name Aug 7, 2013 04:35 PM

                    So what?

                    Of course sometimes a beer is a better selection than wine. I certainly enjoy it.

                    But I'm not going to buy a gold-plated, Italian clay, organic glazed,Murano glass trimmed,hand painted,chrome-wheeled,air bagged,quad-processored growler jug to bring the Kraftbrew home to enjoy during my most intimate solitary moments.

                    1. re: Fake Name
                      honkman Aug 7, 2013 05:03 PM

                      Do you make the same argument regarding wine related stuff ?

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                        Fake Name Aug 7, 2013 06:32 PM

                        I often do. While I enjoy good wine, I find the "Cork Dork" affectation irritating. Even among good friends with whom I enjoy dining.

                        1. re: Fake Name
                          Josh Aug 8, 2013 03:34 PM

                          I think what bothers me about your disdain for people who geek out on the things they like is your unwarranted assumption that it's an affectation. The dictionary says that an affectation is: "behavior, speech, or writing that is artificial and designed to impress."

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                            Fake Name Aug 8, 2013 04:52 PM

                            My use of the word was both deliberate and premeditated.

                            I have no problem with those for whom the interest is genuine and sincere. Most of those folks are in the minority. Beer and wine folks are to me some of the biggest offenders, but motorcyclists can be even worse. Watch South Park's "The F Word (Season 13, Episode 12)" for a treatise on loud-piped motorcycles. See also Adventure Bike riders who's adventures extend no further than the closest Starbucks on a sunny Sunday morning.

                            I also have little patience for 500HP fine imported sports cars that will never see a racetrack, nor a driver capable of driving it beyond 20% of the car's capabilities.

                            Look, it's a free country last time I checked, and I'm aware my opinion may not be popular and may be uncomfortable for some. I encourage those folks to do the right thing and ignore me- many people do.

                            1. re: Fake Name
                              Josh Aug 8, 2013 05:55 PM

                              This is a discussion board, so people will discuss things that are brought up. Maybe I'm a little sensitive to the anti-geek perspective since I've always been one. It's wearisome to hear the charges of affectation or what-have-you for simple enthusiasm.

                              Cheers.

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                                Fake Name Aug 8, 2013 06:00 PM

                                Ah.

                                Not sure by your posts if I offended, and I certainly did not mean to do so. I apologize.

                                There is a big difference between enthusiasm and an affectation- my comments pertain to the latter. The former is why I often visit Chowhound.

                  2. re: Fake Name
                    mcgrue Aug 7, 2013 09:45 PM

                    They serve a beer comparable to Château d'Yquem in an ice cream float? Quelle horreur! I can understand your frustration!

                    Which beer is it?

                    1. re: mcgrue
                      Fake Name Aug 8, 2013 05:02 AM

                      It's called "Theoretical Argument Fantasy Great Hoppin Bunny Pakistan Medium Stout".

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                        Tripeler Aug 8, 2013 07:16 AM

                        Gee, I'll have one of what FN is drinking.

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                  MrKrispy Aug 7, 2013 10:55 AM

                  wow is Fakey actually trolling himself with this thread?

                  And the Smoked Porter float at Ritual is quite divine IMO, although I doubt such bourgeois wine drinkers can make out all the wonderful flavors with their noses so high in the air ;)

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                    DoctorChow Aug 7, 2013 11:40 AM

                    Well, maybe a "beer float" is better than it sounds. Many things are, I suppose. To me, with horizontal nose, it still sounds disgusting. When I was a kid, a girl down the street actually did put pickles in her milk. And she liked it that way.

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                      RB Hound Aug 7, 2013 12:01 PM

                      I suspect, DoctorChow, this is because you are thinking of lagers like Bud, or an overly hoppy IPA. Beer floats work pretty well with porters and stouts because of the chocolate and coffee taste. It really isn't all that much different than many of the dessert cocktails, e.g. those with Kahlua.

                      The thing I saw in that article that was new to me was mixing a wheat beer with a fruit ice cream.

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                        DoctorChow Aug 7, 2013 02:32 PM

                        OK, I'm game. When I see one somewhere made with stout or a rich porter like the one McKrispy talked about, I'll try it.

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                          LStaff Aug 12, 2013 07:40 AM

                          Vanilla ice cream actually goes pretty well with pale ales and ipa's. I'm not likely to want to try an ipa float any more than I would a milk and pepsi (a late 70's sitcom reference for you newish craftbeer fans). But after attending many a birthday party with an IPA in hand, it surprises you that the combination is not as outlandish as you may think - the creamy, vanilla aspect is pleasant when combined with hoppy beer. And I've had ice cream made from hefeweizen and witbiers before and thought they were pretty good.

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                            jpc8015 Aug 27, 2013 04:16 AM

                            Pepsi and milk is really pretty good; of course I prefer Coca-Cola. It is the same concept as the Smith & Wesson cocktail.

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                        Josh Aug 7, 2013 03:33 PM

                        Second your recommendation re: Ritual's smoked porter dessert. It's surprisingly good.

                        As it happens I saw an episode of Good Eats last night (for Fake Name's benefit, that's a thing called a television program which can, in rare instances, educate the viewer) where Alton Brown discussed a quick means of figuring out if wine or beer were a good accompaniment to a given dish. For beer he said that if you can imagine having something like bread with it then beer is a good candidate.

                        Of course if the only beer you drink is PBR then you might be lacking in the necessary sense memory to understand how a porter or stout could be part of a dessert.

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                          jayporter Aug 7, 2013 03:44 PM

                          I saw the headline and started feeling nostalgic for a bit; it got me wondering when I first heard of beer floats. I looked through our blog and found that Mike from Ritual Tavern hosted a night of Speedway Stout Floats at the Linkery over 6 years ago.

                          http://thelinkery.com/blog/speedway-t...

                          I didn't see the article you're talking about (I think it's not online), but I hope they gave Mike and Ritual credit for being pioneers of beer floats in San Diego. As others have mentioned, the item has been popular in San Diego for a long time.

                          Hey, cool: now that it's closed I can mention the Linkery in posts now!

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                            Josh Aug 7, 2013 04:24 PM

                            http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/a...

                            Sadly no Linkery shout-out.

                            IIRC, you might check with Dennis B., the old Liars' Club in Mission Beach might have been the first place to do this (at least in SD).

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                              jayporter Aug 7, 2013 06:15 PM

                              I think you're right about Liar's Club - that rings a bell.

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                        RB Hound Aug 7, 2013 10:17 AM

                        People have been making floats with stouts and porters forever - I suspect you could get a "Guinness float" in one of those kitschy Gaslamp Irish pubs bask in the 80s. Technically that is liquid brown and not liquid gold, but I think that you were being metaphoric.

                        I've been drinking stouts and porters for a long time, and I've never had the urge try a beer float. I'm already getting enough calories from the beer - why in the world would I want to make it worse? Sort of like a deep fried Krispy Kreme burger or something.

                        To answer your final question, I need to know which definition of fetish you mean:

                        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetish

                        http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/69611?r...

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                        1. re: RB Hound
                          Fake Name Aug 7, 2013 11:01 AM

                          b : an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion : prepossession

                          And I don't, despite what may be believed, subscribe to the OED.

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                            RB Hound Aug 7, 2013 11:56 AM

                            Working for universities has its advantages.

                            As much as I like beer, I actually agree somewhat with you - but don't tell anybody.

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                          DoctorChow Aug 7, 2013 09:46 AM

                          I saw that article too and it looks really disgusting. Kind of like that revolting Taco Bell sausage waffle egg thing. Even if that drink is made with good ingredients, there's just no way. None. It's like putting a pickle in your milk.

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                            cstr Aug 7, 2013 09:12 AM

                            Only if it's craft ice cream.

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                              DiningDiva Aug 7, 2013 10:46 AM

                              Neiderfrank...

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