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Aug 5, 2013 08:08 PM

Recs for Group of Japanese Ladies

Hello there. A Japanese friend of mine has asked me if I can make some recommendations for a group of Japanese ladies visiting LV in a couple of weeks. They are apparently concerned about quality dining options. I have assured them (through my friend) that there is good food to be had.

That said, I'm in NYC and just assume this based on what I'm following online and in the media over the last couple of years. I don't have much to go on other than they of course enjoy seafood and would be interested in some good beef options. Their budget is $50-100 per person for food & drink. I think they are in their 30's.

Kinda weird, but If you could step out of your American self and sort of try to imagine what a Japanese person might find good and interesting, I'm wondering if folks here can make some recommendations?

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  1. when japanese people travel to hawaii, many of them are on package deals, and get vouchers for surf and turf at the hotel restaurants they are staying at
    as far as i know, LV does not do this
    i am sure someone will correct me if i am wrong

    that said, if it is a group of japanese ladies in their 30s, they are most likely single and work in offices
    these types of women are called OLs (office ladies)
    they are conspicuous consumers
    think of the lines of people outside the louis vitton store at ala moana center in the 1990s and the 2000s
    now, of course, they shop at outlet stores too, but they save their money for trips to shop and eat

    they will probably favor celebrity chef joints that their friends and family will recognize
    or well known american chains (i know)
    japanese people follow trends closely, and there will be lots of guidebooks and websites for them to study if this is what they want

    i have an email that i have saved that i send to patients that are traveling to vegas for the first time in a long time (yeah, i know, not everyone from hawaii goes to vegas twice a year)
    and i have sent it to a few friends who are japanese nationals
    it focuses mostly on cheaper and good stuff, but if you would like, i can reprint it here

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    1. re: macsak

      Thanks but they are not OLs or package tour lemmings. I do know that. I just do not know their preferences...Sure, if you have some recommendations, please post.

      1. re: Silverjay

        ok, sorry for assuming they were

        so is it safe to assume they are "ladies who dine" instead?
        my list may be a little downscale if they are

    2. If they hanker for some good old home cooking (i.e. Japanese) they should go to Raku. In the same shopping center there are also a couple of other Japanese places - like a noodle bar.

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      1. re: kagemusha49

        Looks like a generic izakaya menu that you see all over Tokyo. I'll list it at the end but hoping to show them something more interesting.

        1. re: Silverjay

          yeah, tough to recommend an izakaya to japanese nationals, but from reports, raku is the best in LV

          i have been told by a japanese national that fukumimi ramen is the best ramen she's had outside of japan
          but if i were from japan, i would not waste a meal on a trip to eat japanese food

      2. You can try these:
        Estiatorio Milos (Cosmo) - for really good Mediterranean seafood
        American Fish (Aria) - great seafood, prix fixe under $100
        CUT (Palazzo) - Wolfgang Puck steakhouse
        Holsteins (Cosmo) - upscale burgers, fries, shakes

        And they can try Scarpetta or DOCG, both at Cosmo, for some good Italian (DOCG less upscale, Scarpetta more upscale).

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        1. re: ah6tyfour

          Thanks. A friend has also recommended Gordon Ramsey Pub and Com Ca at the Cosmo as well.

          1. re: Silverjay

            Skip Gordon Ramsay Pub (at Caesars). The reviews are pretty underwhelming. It opened to poor reviews earlier this year and everyone I know who has gone has not enjoyed it.

            If they want to eat at a Gordon Ramsay restaurant, Gordon Ramsay STEAK (at Paris) is the way to go. Or just have them go there for the sticky toffee pudding. It's one of the most amazing desserts I've ever had.

            1. re: Silverjay

              You might think about Aureole at Mandalay Bay. They have a parallel tasting menu (four courses of duos) for $85 (or $95 if you reserve for Swan Court, which I'd recommend).

              The restaurant is very visually impressive. You walk up to this very fancy-looking entryway with the three-story tall wine tower with "wine angels" that travel up and down the tower via cables to retrieve bottles of wine.

              The food is also very good and plated to impress.

              For the price, it's probably the best place to go for a white tablecloth, multi-course meal featuring food that is the opposite of Asian.


              1. re: Silverjay

                My picky OL wife didnt like Com Ca at all, she loves Pastis and Balthazar for reference.

            2. I don't know much about LV restaurants, but I do some volunteer work where I come into contact with a lot of Japanese tourists asking about places to eat. It is very difficult to get them to state a preference, but (1) they seem to want some kind of food experience that is quintessentially American and (2) they are not real big eaters. Within those parameters, perhaps some other reader could suggest some LV restaurant that has great American breakfasts because pancakes and coffee is the total opposite of tea and rice for breakfast. If the place has a view of the Bellagio fountains, that would be great since the fountains are quintessentially Las Vegas. Photos are important to them. Something like the Chandileer Bar in the Cosmo would progably appeal to them as one of those "only in Las Vegas" experiences, especially if there is a nighttime view of the city.

              I may be totally offbased for your group, but I don't see the ordinary run of Japanese tourists as not being interested in wine pairings. But I think they would enjoy the experience of a brewery/pub or restaurant that serves a hamburgers and some American artisal beers.

              Finally, most, if not all, of the Japanese tourists I encounter have guidebooks in hand with the names of recommended restaurants, so they won't be berefit of guidance on good places to eat.

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              1. re: honu2

                I appreciate everyone's cultural insight, however I lived in Japan most of my adult life, am married to a Japanese, and have done a lot of traveling with Japanese. So just looking for restaurant recs- particularly input from locals and frequent visitors rather than guidebooks...I think wine pairings or wine bars would be just as appealing as brewpubs.

                1. re: Silverjay

                  oh, man, you should've started with that statement, it would've saved us a lot of time

                  1. re: macsak

                    I certainly agree with you macsak!

                  2. re: Silverjay

                    here's my email
                    i gleaned most of the info from chowhound, so feel free to copy

                    bar + bistro
                    near stratosphere
                    latin fusion

                    downtown 3rd farmers market
                    friday 9am-2pm

                    lindo michoacan
                    3 locations
                    mexican food (restaurant) supposed to be one of the best in lv

                    upscale mexican small plates place
                    right near downtown outlet mall

                    tacos el gordo
                    on east side of strip between desert inn rd and convention center drive
                    mexican take out supposed to be the best in lv
                    no website, but looks like you can walk from convention center

                    downtown in the same complex as farmer's market
                    southern food breakfast lunch and dinner

                    lotus of siam
                    thai food
                    supposed to be the best in the us
                    has lunch buffet, but foodies order from the menu at lunch rather than getting buffet

                    one of the managers from lotus of siam left and made his own place
                    it is called chada and it has more small plates and less regular thai food
                    supposed to have good wine selection

                    sweet potato fries
                    smashfries (tossed in oliove oil rosemary and garlic


                    wicked spoon buffet
                    cosmopolitan hotel
                    buffet, but small plates rather than huge steam tables
                    $7 unlimited wine option

                    blueberry hill family restaurant

                    hash house a go go
                    plaza hotel
                    huge servings, quality ingredients

                    golden gate casino downtown
                    humongus pancakes

                    ESTIATORIO MILOS
                    cosmopolitan hotel
                    $20.13 lunch special

                    las vegas happy hours
                    likely a paid advertising site, but it gives you an idea

                    charlie palmer steak cut of the week
                    best dinner deal, but the downside is only one prix fixe menu, no substitutions
                    unlimited wine option too
                    menu changes every week, so go if it appeals to you and skip it if it doesn't
                    the whole party is not required to get the dinner special
                    some can order off the menu if they like

                    1. re: macsak

                      I'd skip Tacos El Gordo, didn't find it all that great, and I eat a ton of Mexican food. Plus there is a language issue there, so unless there is someone to go between the Spanish and Japanese it could get rough ordering.

                      If they want American grub send them over to Tiffany's cafe which is an old school "greasy spoon" on Las Vegas Blvd. I eat there often after a late night out and about (3-5am).

                      Bar+Bistro is Chef Beni's project, and he is doing pretty good. It is located in the Arts Factory (Charleston and Art Way) which is full of art galleries. They have live music during the weekend hangover brunches, and every Saturday evening they have artists working on the patio; painters, scultptors, body painters, etc.. Usually something happening every weekend. It is also across the street from the Artifice bar, and Art Square galleries.

                      A short walk down Main Street is the Casa Don Juan restaurant, and the Velveteen Rabbit bar (a fave of mine).

                      1. re: macsak

                        Great! Thanks so much. I cherrypicked from here and ah6tyfour's recs above. I asked if they can give feedback at some point. Thanks again.

                  3. How big is the group, and will they have a vehicle(s) to get around? Cabs are the expensive option. I would suggest AVIS rentals at the McCarran rental corral for the best value. I rented an Equinox for 2 days w/unlimited mileage- $56 total. I am a local , so my fare was a little less expensive, but AVIS is great to deal with. The airport location had the best price, they accept debit cards,and they are open 24/7.

                    I would suggest LeThai on Fremont St.

                    The El Cortez - I usually get the $7.95 8oz prime rib special which is a big plate of food. Sadly though I fear that they no longer use the Atomic brand horseradish.

                    The Gold Spike cafe has some good food, plus great atmosphere in the lounging areas to have some fun. Their chocolate malts are also good, but they need the fat straws like McDonalds has.

                    Tiffany's Cafe is pretty old school American grub, I eat there often.

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                    1. re: BIGGUNDOCTOR

                      The Gold Spike was sold. The hotel and restaurant were both closed.

                      1. re: Eric

                        Wrong, the cafe is still open. Swing by if you get a chance, they did a neat renovation of the place.