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Voting for the NFNS

Time to get voting... I really hope Damaris wins- she is the only one I feel actually has a natural gift for what she's doing and she looks like she's having a blast doing it. I wouldn't watch the stupid pie guy's show if you paid me to. And Seven culinary sins? Yawn... bacon.... it's everywhere. I just don't see what he is bringing to my TV that hasn't been done before- and he's not all that engaging. I love Damaris' charm, giggle, honesty. VOTE FOR DAMARIS

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  1. Frankly I wish they had a none of the above button... or a reruns of Julia Child button instead. All of the pilots were dreadful.

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    1. re: cwdonald

      I think the problem is inherent with the premise of the show. Even when a field is fine tuned and reduced to a mere fraction of the number that started, what are the odds that ANYONE has "star" potential? I can't stand watching any of them. A "schtick" like pieman or culinary sins or meat-on-the-side can only go so far; beyond that it's forced, contrived and senseless. I've stopped the DVR from recording new episodes. I just don't care.

      1. re: cwdonald

        How about a button for ANY of the contestants on BBC's MasterChef: The Professionals?

      2. I'd like Demaris to win too, but out of the 3 pilots, and it pains me to say this...Rodney's was the best one.

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        1. re: DiningDiva

          I agree. I tried to vote last night but it wanted to access my FB account so my vote didn't register. BOO.

        2. "Listen up guys! I just saw some dude on TV turn a beautiful grilled cheese sandwich into a pie. So tonight I'm going to take all the sandwich ingredients except the excellent bread and make a pie. Sort of a gloopy mess where everything is mixed together. Yum yum. Man those FN executives are smart. I'll get started making the 'pie' as soon as I get home from the office. Shouldn't take more than a couples of hours before we can eat the slop".
          It just gets dumber and dumber.
          They only kept the dude who wants to put bacon fat into everything b/c it was 'PC'.
          The young woman will 'win' of course but like virtually all the other 'winners' there will be the inevitable 'contract disputes' and no one will ever see her on TV again.....let alone on her own FN TV show. Yawn.

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          1. re: Puffin3

            Why was it PC, cuz he's black? I really think Stacey just got less and less promising as a host. I agree, none of these people are that great but her pitch *did* seem sad and the botox feel to her was annoying. Rodney's "pie style" is ridiculous but I somehow have a soft spot for him and he seems most natural. I'm not sure I like the spin Demaris has now put on her show. I think I'd rather see modern southern cooking in general than bringing in some dude cooking for his GF every week. (Not that I'll watch any of them.)

            1. re: Joanie

              ITA with disliking Demaris' "POV". Basically we are seeing three guy-centric shows: Pie Fieri, macho underground chef, and teaching cooking to guys.

              See ya FN. Not being a guy, I guess you don't want me watching you anymore, or my money going to your advertisers.

              1. re: coney with everything

                I think that Demaris was probably more forced into the "cooking with dudes" realm given what's already on FN's lineup. For her to differentiate between Pioneer Woman and Trisha Yearwood's show would be a lot harder than to put that kind of a spin on it.

                1. re: cresyd

                  They could turn Demaris into a Dating contest wherethe best dish wins the girl!... it would go with new direction.( insert eyeroll here)

                  1. re: girloftheworld

                    Hey I'd go out with Demaris. Of course, at this point I'd go out with anyone.

                    1. re: JonParker

                      sssshhhhhh dont let my mother hear that! she has this matchmaking hobby that is like something from FIddler on the Roof....and right now she is heavy femal light on men!

                2. re: coney with everything

                  Pie Fieri! Good one!

                  What was Guy on? He was so excited by the Pie Man he almost peed himself. Well, I guess he was like that for all of them. I lost track of the number of times that I rolled my eyes during the episode.

                  1. re: dmjordan

                    I think the pie guy was on an episode of DDD a few years ago

                      1. re: rasputina

                        Could be. I thought he was a friend of Ace of Cakes and that's how he got on DDD

                        1. re: DiningDiva

                          That is true. He's also good friends with a good friend of mine, who was urging me to vote for him. I didn't, partially because I wasn't giving FN my Facebook info, and partially because I lived like three blocks from his pie shop in Baltimore and it just wasn't very good at all (I didn't tell my friend this). The fillings were quite good, but the crust was leaden and dense. I don't know how you can call yourself the pie guy when your crusts suck.

                          1. re: JonParker

                            Ooooooooh. Ouch.
                            You need to tell him (or the friend?) this.
                            Yikes.
                            Not any easy conversation. I think a few stiff shots and a friendly vibe might help.

                            p.s also, if it helps to cite an anonymous web source? his pies were ~not~ visually appealing.

                            1. re: pedalfaster

                              If he's checking the internet for criticism, which any modern restauranteur should be doing, he already knows this, as I've said it several times on Chowhound over the last few years. Other hounds have agreed with me as well. He keeps expanding his markets, so I assume somebody likes them.

                              1. re: JonParker

                                I've been tempted to try out his place since they moved to Canton for awhile now, but I just can't justify spending $6-7 for a slice. I can just go to the Amish markets around here and get a whole homemade pie for just a little more. It's too bad, the Berger cookie pie sounds good, too.

                                If I hear "pie style" one more time, I'm gonna scream.

                                1. re: joyousle

                                  i'd rather support rodney than amish people

                            2. re: JonParker

                              Interesting about the crust...the Detroit News just published a taste test of key lime pies this morning and Rodney's pie (sold out of a bar!) came in first by a wide margin. It beat Zingermans, among other well-regarded bakeries

                              http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20...

                              I'm going to assume that it has a graham cracker or cookie crust as the comment says "crunchy, buttery crust"

                              1. re: JonParker

                                Agree 100% Jon. I've also said as much several times on Chowhound, including in another recent NFNS thread, I think. I just can't in good conscience root for him, as much as I would want the local guy to make good. The first time I had his pie I was so, so disappointed. The crust is my favorite part and it was hard and tasteless. I'm flabbergasted he has made it this far in the competition. I haven't watched every episode (or even with full attention the episodes I did watch), but it didn't seem like he made one pie that the judges liked, not one. I realize food is not the #1 priority to them in picking their "stars" but I did not think things had gotten so bad that it was completely disregarded. It's a shame.

                      2. re: coney with everything

                        I'm a guy, and really, I'm interested in reasonably healthy, tasty dishes. I'm reminded of Xander's conversation with Anya at the end of S3, where he said (paraphrasing) "yes, I'm a guy. We likea the beef, and we likea the bosoms. Is that really all you've learned about us?"

                      3. re: Joanie

                        God, what was up with Stacey's lips. They looked like they were w-a-y overinflated. Hadn't thought of Botox! Good one :-)

                        1. re: DiningDiva

                          A whole lot of fillers and some hideous $2.99 lipstick is my guess.

                          1. re: alliegator

                            Probably one of those new "lip plumpers" the cosmetic companies are hawking now <sigh>. Whatever it was, the make-up they had on both Stacey and Demaris was hideous and did nothing to enhance their appearance. Both women looked uncomfortable with it.

                            1. re: DiningDiva

                              Agreed, I didn't like the striped dress Damaris was in either.

                              1. re: rasputina

                                I liked the striped dress, but I liked the black dress better. At least they didn't put pearls on her to cultivate that "June Cleaver" look.

                                  1. re: coney with everything

                                    And it made me think: gee, I had no idea her legs were so big.

                                    Honestly about the makeup: when they would go back to Demaris talking to the camera, she looked so much nicer.

                                    Can you imagine if they had tried to make Julia Child look glamorous?

                      4. re: Puffin3

                        Reminds me of Aunt Sandy'a "Apple Pie Napoleon," in a reverse way

                      5. Rodney has never been my favorite but he definitely lost any votes from me when he just dumped a jar of capers into his pie glop without rinsing them first. Yeah, gives me real confidence in his food quality in general.

                        I actually like Russell's personality, and I like the idea of bucking the trend of making everything "lighter", "healthier", blah blah blah. Let's get some actual decadent cooking going again (especially with Paula Deen and her butterpalooza off the air.) That said, Russell needs a better concept and premise than this pilot and it was ridiculous to do the liquid nitrogen trick...who the heck is going to be able to (or want to) recreate that at home?

                        But I'm still giving him some votes because I'd actually watch him. I actually liked his pitch for a decadent dinner party show much better, since I love cooking for parties and finding dishes that would impress and surprise guests.

                        Damaris is likeable but, as a premise, her pilot had no interest to me whatsoever.

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                        1. re: sockii

                          Rodney's pie looked gross. No way would I eat that (and the grilled cheese sandwich looked great)..Underdone, greasy....

                          I like Russell's show quite a bit, but it isn't something I'm going to learn from or cook ever. Bacon ice cream? Would love to try it, but not make it.

                          Demaris' pilot was okay. It needs tweaking, but I really would like her apple butter mustard recipe! Yum!

                        2. Completely stupid to require facebook to vote online.

                          The pitch room discussion made it clear that they are sticking with the FN branding as a food channel not a cooking channel. I prefer straight up cooking shows. I like Damaris but I hope they move her to cooking channel and let her cook without the gimmicks.

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                          1. re: rasputina

                            The reason they are doing that is so they can profile their audience. The same reason with the 800 number. They want to understand who the audience is and they are trying to understand the difference between people who like Rodney, Demerit, and Sinning. Basic market research. If you vote by phone they will be able to get information on you, and they can buy databases that cross reference your cell number, your email and your facebook account.

                            1. re: cwdonald

                              BINGO!
                              FN is so far out of touch with what's happening in the culinary/health world it's laughable. Maybe some ridiculous premise may have lasted on the FN ten years ago for a few episodes but not now.
                              I guarantee that after you vote for one of these silly 'pilots' if it's say for 'Southern food girl' you'll be receiving ads for 'Southern Hot Sauce' within a week in your mail box.
                              Recently I 'Googled' for info about remote controlled helicopters for a gift for my grand son. A few days later on about four/five websites I visit often were 'pop-up' ads for remote controlled helicopters.

                              1. re: cwdonald

                                The market research is still skewed because it leaves out a whole section of people who do watch the show but don't do Facebook and won't give out their phone number because they don't want it sold.

                                1. re: rasputina

                                  ...and don't forget people who (*cough*) may have totally bogus FB accounts just set up to play games and follow pages they're interested in...

                                  1. re: sockii

                                    But sockii seeing the information about what you are interested in, and what you play tells them things about you. And may be enough. Most likely this is all done in aggregate to create a profile. Your likes and games are a reflection of who you are regardless of whether you tell them you live in New Jersey, Ankara, Turkey or the moon.

                                  2. re: rasputina

                                    Exactly! And I am one of those people!

                                    1. re: CindyJ

                                      Agreed. I'd love to vote (not that I'd watch any of them, just to ensure I never have to see pie guy again ;) but not at the price of entering the FB world or selling out my phone number.

                                      1. re: gaffk

                                        FWIW, this is not the first time the F Network has required facebook accounts to be able to vote. I found similar concerns last year. I guess it did not make that much of a difference to them if people complained.

                                        I really think that they use this information to help describe the potential audience for new programs as they make the case for ad rates, and fees to cable companies.

                                        1. re: cwdonald

                                          Agreed. And by using FB they are probably skewing the demographic to the more desirable younger viewers, perhaps?

                                          1. re: gaffk

                                            Probably not. My local newspaper requires Facebook in order to comment on articles in its online edition.

                                2. re: rasputina

                                  You don't have to use Facebook. You can vote right on the Food Network site.

                                  1. re: chicgail

                                    From the food network site:

                                    RULES AND FAQ

                                    you must have a valid Facebook account to vote online (“Online Voting”).

                                    Read more at: http://star.foodnetwork.com/?oc=linkback

                                    1. re: chicgail

                                      ...which then prompts you to log in with your Facebook account. No FB? No voting.

                                      1. re: sockii

                                        I did. Do you think they even had a way of knowing my FB account?

                                        1. re: chicgail

                                          Did you get a confirmation screen stating that you voted? If not, then you didn't actually vote.

                                          1. re: MplsM ary

                                            Yes. And it told me I had 9...8...7... remaining votes on today's log in.