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Voting for the NFNS

maisonbistro Aug 4, 2013 07:53 PM

Time to get voting... I really hope Damaris wins- she is the only one I feel actually has a natural gift for what she's doing and she looks like she's having a blast doing it. I wouldn't watch the stupid pie guy's show if you paid me to. And Seven culinary sins? Yawn... bacon.... it's everywhere. I just don't see what he is bringing to my TV that hasn't been done before- and he's not all that engaging. I love Damaris' charm, giggle, honesty. VOTE FOR DAMARIS

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    cwdonald RE: maisonbistro Aug 4, 2013 07:56 PM

    Frankly I wish they had a none of the above button... or a reruns of Julia Child button instead. All of the pilots were dreadful.

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    1. re: cwdonald
      CindyJ RE: cwdonald Aug 6, 2013 09:37 AM

      I think the problem is inherent with the premise of the show. Even when a field is fine tuned and reduced to a mere fraction of the number that started, what are the odds that ANYONE has "star" potential? I can't stand watching any of them. A "schtick" like pieman or culinary sins or meat-on-the-side can only go so far; beyond that it's forced, contrived and senseless. I've stopped the DVR from recording new episodes. I just don't care.

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        Thanks4Food RE: cwdonald Aug 9, 2013 04:27 PM

        How about a button for ANY of the contestants on BBC's MasterChef: The Professionals?

      2. DiningDiva RE: maisonbistro Aug 4, 2013 10:18 PM

        I'd like Demaris to win too, but out of the 3 pilots, and it pains me to say this...Rodney's was the best one.

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        1. re: DiningDiva
          Njchicaa RE: DiningDiva Aug 5, 2013 03:20 AM

          I agree. I tried to vote last night but it wanted to access my FB account so my vote didn't register. BOO.

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          Puffin3 RE: maisonbistro Aug 5, 2013 01:41 AM

          "Listen up guys! I just saw some dude on TV turn a beautiful grilled cheese sandwich into a pie. So tonight I'm going to take all the sandwich ingredients except the excellent bread and make a pie. Sort of a gloopy mess where everything is mixed together. Yum yum. Man those FN executives are smart. I'll get started making the 'pie' as soon as I get home from the office. Shouldn't take more than a couples of hours before we can eat the slop".
          It just gets dumber and dumber.
          They only kept the dude who wants to put bacon fat into everything b/c it was 'PC'.
          The young woman will 'win' of course but like virtually all the other 'winners' there will be the inevitable 'contract disputes' and no one will ever see her on TV again.....let alone on her own FN TV show. Yawn.

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          1. re: Puffin3
            Joanie RE: Puffin3 Aug 5, 2013 03:59 AM

            Why was it PC, cuz he's black? I really think Stacey just got less and less promising as a host. I agree, none of these people are that great but her pitch *did* seem sad and the botox feel to her was annoying. Rodney's "pie style" is ridiculous but I somehow have a soft spot for him and he seems most natural. I'm not sure I like the spin Demaris has now put on her show. I think I'd rather see modern southern cooking in general than bringing in some dude cooking for his GF every week. (Not that I'll watch any of them.)

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              coney with everything RE: Joanie Aug 5, 2013 04:47 AM

              ITA with disliking Demaris' "POV". Basically we are seeing three guy-centric shows: Pie Fieri, macho underground chef, and teaching cooking to guys.

              See ya FN. Not being a guy, I guess you don't want me watching you anymore, or my money going to your advertisers.

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                cresyd RE: coney with everything Aug 5, 2013 05:36 AM

                I think that Demaris was probably more forced into the "cooking with dudes" realm given what's already on FN's lineup. For her to differentiate between Pioneer Woman and Trisha Yearwood's show would be a lot harder than to put that kind of a spin on it.

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                  girloftheworld RE: cresyd Aug 9, 2013 03:18 PM

                  They could turn Demaris into a Dating contest wherethe best dish wins the girl!... it would go with new direction.( insert eyeroll here)

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                    JonParker RE: girloftheworld Aug 9, 2013 06:00 PM

                    Hey I'd go out with Demaris. Of course, at this point I'd go out with anyone.

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                      girloftheworld RE: JonParker Aug 9, 2013 07:11 PM

                      sssshhhhhh dont let my mother hear that! she has this matchmaking hobby that is like something from FIddler on the Roof....and right now she is heavy femal light on men!

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                  dmjordan RE: coney with everything Aug 5, 2013 07:18 AM

                  Pie Fieri! Good one!

                  What was Guy on? He was so excited by the Pie Man he almost peed himself. Well, I guess he was like that for all of them. I lost track of the number of times that I rolled my eyes during the episode.

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                    DiningDiva RE: dmjordan Aug 5, 2013 11:04 AM

                    I think the pie guy was on an episode of DDD a few years ago

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                      rasputina RE: DiningDiva Aug 5, 2013 01:13 PM

                      I thought he was on Throwdown

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                        DiningDiva RE: rasputina Aug 5, 2013 02:34 PM

                        Could be. I thought he was a friend of Ace of Cakes and that's how he got on DDD

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                          JonParker RE: DiningDiva Aug 7, 2013 04:48 PM

                          That is true. He's also good friends with a good friend of mine, who was urging me to vote for him. I didn't, partially because I wasn't giving FN my Facebook info, and partially because I lived like three blocks from his pie shop in Baltimore and it just wasn't very good at all (I didn't tell my friend this). The fillings were quite good, but the crust was leaden and dense. I don't know how you can call yourself the pie guy when your crusts suck.

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                            pedalfaster RE: JonParker Aug 7, 2013 05:01 PM

                            Ooooooooh. Ouch.
                            You need to tell him (or the friend?) this.
                            Not any easy conversation. I think a few stiff shots and a friendly vibe might help.

                            p.s also, if it helps to cite an anonymous web source? his pies were ~not~ visually appealing.

                            1. re: pedalfaster
                              JonParker RE: pedalfaster Aug 7, 2013 05:20 PM

                              If he's checking the internet for criticism, which any modern restauranteur should be doing, he already knows this, as I've said it several times on Chowhound over the last few years. Other hounds have agreed with me as well. He keeps expanding his markets, so I assume somebody likes them.

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                                joyousle RE: JonParker Aug 7, 2013 07:36 PM

                                I've been tempted to try out his place since they moved to Canton for awhile now, but I just can't justify spending $6-7 for a slice. I can just go to the Amish markets around here and get a whole homemade pie for just a little more. It's too bad, the Berger cookie pie sounds good, too.

                                If I hear "pie style" one more time, I'm gonna scream.

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                                  catroast RE: joyousle Aug 8, 2013 12:11 PM

                                  i'd rather support rodney than amish people

                            2. re: JonParker
                              coney with everything RE: JonParker Aug 8, 2013 04:52 AM

                              Interesting about the crust...the Detroit News just published a taste test of key lime pies this morning and Rodney's pie (sold out of a bar!) came in first by a wide margin. It beat Zingermans, among other well-regarded bakeries


                              I'm going to assume that it has a graham cracker or cookie crust as the comment says "crunchy, buttery crust"

                              1. re: JonParker
                                charmedgirl RE: JonParker Aug 8, 2013 07:24 AM

                                Agree 100% Jon. I've also said as much several times on Chowhound, including in another recent NFNS thread, I think. I just can't in good conscience root for him, as much as I would want the local guy to make good. The first time I had his pie I was so, so disappointed. The crust is my favorite part and it was hard and tasteless. I'm flabbergasted he has made it this far in the competition. I haven't watched every episode (or even with full attention the episodes I did watch), but it didn't seem like he made one pie that the judges liked, not one. I realize food is not the #1 priority to them in picking their "stars" but I did not think things had gotten so bad that it was completely disregarded. It's a shame.

                      2. re: coney with everything
                        JonParker RE: coney with everything Aug 9, 2013 06:05 PM

                        I'm a guy, and really, I'm interested in reasonably healthy, tasty dishes. I'm reminded of Xander's conversation with Anya at the end of S3, where he said (paraphrasing) "yes, I'm a guy. We likea the beef, and we likea the bosoms. Is that really all you've learned about us?"

                      3. re: Joanie
                        DiningDiva RE: Joanie Aug 5, 2013 11:04 AM

                        God, what was up with Stacey's lips. They looked like they were w-a-y overinflated. Hadn't thought of Botox! Good one :-)

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                          alliegator RE: DiningDiva Aug 5, 2013 11:08 AM

                          A whole lot of fillers and some hideous $2.99 lipstick is my guess.

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                            DiningDiva RE: alliegator Aug 5, 2013 12:20 PM

                            Probably one of those new "lip plumpers" the cosmetic companies are hawking now <sigh>. Whatever it was, the make-up they had on both Stacey and Demaris was hideous and did nothing to enhance their appearance. Both women looked uncomfortable with it.

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                              rasputina RE: DiningDiva Aug 5, 2013 01:14 PM

                              Agreed, I didn't like the striped dress Damaris was in either.

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                                DiningDiva RE: rasputina Aug 5, 2013 02:35 PM

                                I liked the striped dress, but I liked the black dress better. At least they didn't put pearls on her to cultivate that "June Cleaver" look.

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                                  coney with everything RE: DiningDiva Aug 7, 2013 04:52 AM

                                  That striped dress made her arms look HUGE.

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                                    Thanks4Food RE: coney with everything Aug 9, 2013 04:32 PM

                                    And it made me think: gee, I had no idea her legs were so big.

                                    Honestly about the makeup: when they would go back to Demaris talking to the camera, she looked so much nicer.

                                    Can you imagine if they had tried to make Julia Child look glamorous?

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                        C. Hamster RE: Puffin3 Aug 5, 2013 10:09 AM

                        Reminds me of Aunt Sandy'a "Apple Pie Napoleon," in a reverse way

                      5. sockii RE: maisonbistro Aug 5, 2013 06:07 AM

                        Rodney has never been my favorite but he definitely lost any votes from me when he just dumped a jar of capers into his pie glop without rinsing them first. Yeah, gives me real confidence in his food quality in general.

                        I actually like Russell's personality, and I like the idea of bucking the trend of making everything "lighter", "healthier", blah blah blah. Let's get some actual decadent cooking going again (especially with Paula Deen and her butterpalooza off the air.) That said, Russell needs a better concept and premise than this pilot and it was ridiculous to do the liquid nitrogen trick...who the heck is going to be able to (or want to) recreate that at home?

                        But I'm still giving him some votes because I'd actually watch him. I actually liked his pitch for a decadent dinner party show much better, since I love cooking for parties and finding dishes that would impress and surprise guests.

                        Damaris is likeable but, as a premise, her pilot had no interest to me whatsoever.

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                        1. re: sockii
                          libgirl2 RE: sockii Aug 8, 2013 09:24 AM

                          Rodney's pie looked gross. No way would I eat that (and the grilled cheese sandwich looked great)..Underdone, greasy....

                          I like Russell's show quite a bit, but it isn't something I'm going to learn from or cook ever. Bacon ice cream? Would love to try it, but not make it.

                          Demaris' pilot was okay. It needs tweaking, but I really would like her apple butter mustard recipe! Yum!

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                          rasputina RE: maisonbistro Aug 5, 2013 06:29 AM

                          Completely stupid to require facebook to vote online.

                          The pitch room discussion made it clear that they are sticking with the FN branding as a food channel not a cooking channel. I prefer straight up cooking shows. I like Damaris but I hope they move her to cooking channel and let her cook without the gimmicks.

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                          1. re: rasputina
                            cwdonald RE: rasputina Aug 5, 2013 06:43 AM

                            The reason they are doing that is so they can profile their audience. The same reason with the 800 number. They want to understand who the audience is and they are trying to understand the difference between people who like Rodney, Demerit, and Sinning. Basic market research. If you vote by phone they will be able to get information on you, and they can buy databases that cross reference your cell number, your email and your facebook account.

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                              Puffin3 RE: cwdonald Aug 5, 2013 07:32 AM

                              FN is so far out of touch with what's happening in the culinary/health world it's laughable. Maybe some ridiculous premise may have lasted on the FN ten years ago for a few episodes but not now.
                              I guarantee that after you vote for one of these silly 'pilots' if it's say for 'Southern food girl' you'll be receiving ads for 'Southern Hot Sauce' within a week in your mail box.
                              Recently I 'Googled' for info about remote controlled helicopters for a gift for my grand son. A few days later on about four/five websites I visit often were 'pop-up' ads for remote controlled helicopters.

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                                rasputina RE: cwdonald Aug 5, 2013 08:02 AM

                                The market research is still skewed because it leaves out a whole section of people who do watch the show but don't do Facebook and won't give out their phone number because they don't want it sold.

                                1. re: rasputina
                                  sockii RE: rasputina Aug 5, 2013 08:07 AM

                                  ...and don't forget people who (*cough*) may have totally bogus FB accounts just set up to play games and follow pages they're interested in...

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                                    cwdonald RE: sockii Aug 5, 2013 09:47 AM

                                    But sockii seeing the information about what you are interested in, and what you play tells them things about you. And may be enough. Most likely this is all done in aggregate to create a profile. Your likes and games are a reflection of who you are regardless of whether you tell them you live in New Jersey, Ankara, Turkey or the moon.

                                  2. re: rasputina
                                    CindyJ RE: rasputina Aug 6, 2013 09:44 AM

                                    Exactly! And I am one of those people!

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                                      gaffk RE: CindyJ Aug 6, 2013 09:49 AM

                                      Agreed. I'd love to vote (not that I'd watch any of them, just to ensure I never have to see pie guy again ;) but not at the price of entering the FB world or selling out my phone number.

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                                        cwdonald RE: gaffk Aug 6, 2013 10:11 AM

                                        FWIW, this is not the first time the F Network has required facebook accounts to be able to vote. I found similar concerns last year. I guess it did not make that much of a difference to them if people complained.

                                        I really think that they use this information to help describe the potential audience for new programs as they make the case for ad rates, and fees to cable companies.

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                                          gaffk RE: cwdonald Aug 6, 2013 10:32 AM

                                          Agreed. And by using FB they are probably skewing the demographic to the more desirable younger viewers, perhaps?

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                                            jmckee RE: gaffk Aug 7, 2013 12:24 PM

                                            Probably not. My local newspaper requires Facebook in order to comment on articles in its online edition.

                                2. re: rasputina
                                  chicgail RE: rasputina Aug 5, 2013 07:28 AM

                                  You don't have to use Facebook. You can vote right on the Food Network site.

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                                    rasputina RE: chicgail Aug 5, 2013 08:07 AM

                                    From the food network site:

                                    RULES AND FAQ

                                    you must have a valid Facebook account to vote online (“Online Voting”).

                                    Read more at: http://star.foodnetwork.com/?oc=linkback

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                                      sockii RE: chicgail Aug 5, 2013 08:09 AM

                                      ...which then prompts you to log in with your Facebook account. No FB? No voting.

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                                        chicgail RE: sockii Aug 5, 2013 01:03 PM

                                        I did. Do you think they even had a way of knowing my FB account?

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                                          MplsM ary RE: chicgail Aug 6, 2013 08:34 AM

                                          Did you get a confirmation screen stating that you voted? If not, then you didn't actually vote.

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                                            chicgail RE: MplsM ary Aug 7, 2013 12:55 AM

                                            Yes. And it told me I had 9...8...7... remaining votes on today's log in.

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                                              girloftheworld RE: chicgail Aug 9, 2013 03:23 PM

                                              I voted and I dont have a facebook.

                                  2. junescook RE: maisonbistro Aug 5, 2013 08:22 AM

                                    I use the food network site, and just voted there without any facebook sign-in. Usually you have a choice at some point.

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                                      wincountrygirl RE: junescook Aug 5, 2013 12:05 PM

                                      I used the food network site and when I clicked to,vote for Damaris I was prompted to log into my Facebook account.

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                                        C. Hamster RE: wincountrygirl Aug 5, 2013 01:07 PM

                                        Me too.

                                        But I tried to vote for Pie Fieri

                                        I want him to approach David Chang and offer up the notion of making a pie out of one of his dishes.

                                    2. alliegator RE: maisonbistro Aug 5, 2013 11:05 AM

                                      Ugh, I vote none of the above. I think the most telegenic guy is Pie Fieri. But they did make any meal a sandwich with that other dude, and this is just the same ol' crap: make any meal a pie.

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                                      1. re: alliegator
                                        C. Hamster RE: alliegator Aug 5, 2013 11:27 AM

                                        Maybe he can make a pie for Amy

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                                          alliegator RE: C. Hamster Aug 5, 2013 01:18 PM

                                          With a big ol' file inside?

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                                          rasputina RE: alliegator Aug 5, 2013 01:15 PM

                                          Good point about the similarity with Sandwich King.

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                                            alliegator RE: rasputina Aug 5, 2013 01:43 PM

                                            As soon as Alton offered up his advice, Sandwich King was the first thing I thought of.
                                            My husband and I were joking that I should try next season for my couple of weeks of fame. I could cultivate a "look", like purple lipstick and yellow glasses, and show up claiming that I can make any meal into potstickers.

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                                          rocks67 RE: maisonbistro Aug 5, 2013 11:44 AM

                                          Oh Good GOD, please, make Rodney go away. Besides the fact that I can't understand half of what he says, there's just something.... dirty about him. And I don't mean that in a Russell type of way.

                                          If I had to choose, it would be Damaris or Russell all of the way. Although they are just re-do's of previously done shows.

                                          Why, why, why do I get sucked into this every year.

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                                            Sampanther RE: rocks67 Aug 5, 2013 12:35 PM

                                            I liked Rodney at first because I really like pie but he has yet to make a pie that looks good. The one last night looked especially bad for a "pie guy".

                                            I have not had a problem hearing him like others do at least until last night. Did he refer to that guy as a dago? He said something like, "this will show that Dago." I thought that was an bad choice of words. It was said in a good natures way but even if they are friends I would not say that on national television. Perhaps I misunderstood.

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                                              Joanie RE: Sampanther Aug 5, 2013 12:44 PM

                                              I think he was saying "dang it" or something like that if I'm thinking of the same thing you are. Def. didn't hear "Dago", haha. It's too bad "pie style" is so freaking limited (and he doesn't make them that well either) cuz I def. think he has a certain je ne sais quoi about him. Which I know half of you hate but I just wanted to say je ne sais quoi.

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                                                Sampanther RE: Joanie Aug 5, 2013 01:24 PM

                                                I just watched the clip on FN and I think that the scene I am talking about has been edited out. I noticed another bit where he is making the pie crust and it almost sounded like he said it there too but I think you are correct that he is saying dang gone. He says, "Eric is going to lose his dang gone mind."

                                                If I really cared I would watch the rerun of the show but I question why I watched it the first time as it is.

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                                                  pedalfaster RE: Sampanther Aug 5, 2013 01:49 PM

                                                  "Boomhauer Cooks"

                                                  OMG, that could actually be genius.
                                                  Is there a cartoonist in the house?
                                                  (pm me for royalty check info).

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                                                    Puffin3 RE: Sampanther Aug 6, 2013 06:29 AM

                                                    There's a 'Lucy' rerun on at the same time next week so I'm sorted thanks.
                                                    The 'Pie-Guy' has been floating around FN shows for years.
                                                    His name's in the hat with all the others which is in the FN's Presidents office and when the 'executives' run out of warm bodies to stick in the next FN flop the Pres just reaches in a pulls out the number of warm bodies needed and Bingo! another FN flop cast is sorted.

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                                              FoodPopulist RE: maisonbistro Aug 6, 2013 09:39 PM

                                              How can I put this....this show has made me want to actually try baking a few pies.

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                                                dmjordan RE: FoodPopulist Aug 7, 2013 07:32 AM

                                                Because as a beginner you know you could turn out something better than what the pie guy turns out? The pie guy has set the bar low. Go for it!

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                                                  FoodPopulist RE: dmjordan Aug 7, 2013 09:42 AM

                                                  Because I find the concept interesting.

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                                                SusieQQ RE: maisonbistro Aug 7, 2013 04:24 AM

                                                I also couldn't cast my vote since I didn't want to log into my Facebook account and then have it show up on my home page. That really annoyed me.

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                                                  catroast RE: maisonbistro Aug 7, 2013 10:17 AM

                                                  I hope Damaris wins because she is exactly like my good friend both of whom are crazy drinkers, and from another planet. I cringe everytime Russell explains his sins - it is daunting and stupid.The brief case was idiotic.

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                                                    SmartCookie RE: catroast Aug 8, 2013 08:17 AM

                                                    When I saw the briefcase I immediately though of Jackson Galaxy from the My Cat From Hell show. The shtick gets tired quickly.

                                                  2. Njchicaa RE: maisonbistro Aug 8, 2013 08:54 AM

                                                    Food Network Gossip is predicting Damaris as the winner based on a survey that they had on the site.

                                                    Me? I predict Rodney as the winner. I locked in my prediction several weeks ago (the week Chris Hodgson got eliminated) and I'm still going with it. FN has been pushing Rodney on too many shows to not make him the NFNS.

                                                    I'm not saying I want him to win. I don't want any of them to win. This season was an absolute $h!tshow as far as I'm concerned. Just my thoughts after watching the show for many years.

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                                                      boingo2000 RE: maisonbistro Aug 8, 2013 09:23 AM

                                                      Yeah, to me Damaris is the only likeable one amongst the final three. Rodney is nothing but schtick, and he thinks he is *so* much more entertaining than he really is (plus, he's shown the inability to take any advice from anybody). And how many times in a 3-minute segment can one person say "pie style"? At this point, one time is one too many. As for Russell, he just completely rubs me the wrong way...frankly he skeeves me out a little bit. I can't put my finger on it, but I just find him thoroughly unpleasant. Damaris, on the other hand, seems genuine and funny and appears to really have the ability to improve and grow into the role of TV host...and I really didn't like her much the first few episodes. She really won me over though. For me, this thing shouldn't even be a contest at this point: Damaris should win going away.

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                                                        C. Hamster RE: boingo2000 Aug 9, 2013 09:27 PM

                                                        They all bore me to tears

                                                        I couldn't give a fzck who wins. The NFNWS is slightly entertaining but there is no way I am watching one episode this years winner

                                                        This season sucked

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