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Aug 4, 2013 03:45 PM

Mikkeller Bar [SF]

The Space is very nice, clean and open. Super nice folks,Very helpful with tastes and suggestions, a couple of faces from the Trappist and a amazing assortment of Brews on tap.
Did not eat as we had Dinner Reservations else where, but what was seen and smelled looked good.

Mikkeler Bar
34 Mason St,
M-F 12-12
S+S 12-2

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  1. I also stopped in pre-dinner with my daughter when she was vsiting from New York. Their draft beer list is impressive, but for those prices I expected pints, but their serving glasses seemed to be 10 or 12 oz, if that. The snacks are also pricey (by my standards). We had an order of salt cod cakes which were tasty, but it was $12 just two smallish patties (about the size of fish cakes you get in a Vietnamese restaurant).

    Their tap beer list changes from day to day, but here is the list for the day we were there:

    [Edit] Since the attached file doesn't appear readable, here is a link to a large version:

    13 Replies
    1. re: soupçon

      The beer serving sizes are listed on the menu you linked to. 25cl is 25 centilitres or a quarter of a litre, which is about 8 oz. 50cl is about 16 oz.

      1. re: Prabhakar Ragde

        Indeed, although I have to say the first time I saw their draft list I puzzled over the string of numbers for a couple minutes before comprehending.

        For added reference, 12oz is 355ml. So they are all small-ish pours (and consistent with Mikkeller's prices for bottles).

        1. re: Prabhakar Ragde

          Thanks for compensating for my laziness. The four beers we had between us were all 25cl pours, and I was thinking 8 oz. at the time, but the type of curved glassware they use can be deceptive.

        2. re: soupçon

          I'm quite familiar with the metric system and those are some steep prices. Again, these are very strong brews, but still. $15 for a pint of beer is quite high--great idea, trying to fool Americans with the metric system. I really mean obfuscate, not fool.

          1. re: hankstramm

            We've had the metric system in Canada for yonks and I've yet to see anything for retail sale measured in centiliters -- that just seems silly and needlessly confusing. Millilitres are completely common here for liquids, as per the list of bottled beers.

            1. re: grayelf

              I'm from Ontario as well, and (barely) old enough to remember the conversion to metric. They pulled back a bit to address people's fears of change and being cheated if package sizes changed. So beer bottles tend to be a round number of ounces (Imperial, to make it even more confusing): 12 fluid ounces or 341 ml.

              I have seen centilitre measurements for beverages across Europe, and this Mikkeller is a joint project with a Danish brewer, so it makes sense. It's perhaps a bit of an affectation not to have ounces on the menu out of friendliness to an overwhelmingly American clientele.

            2. re: hankstramm

              The prices don't seem any higher than similar high-end beer bars in the area, The Trappist, Monk's Kettle, etc.

              1. re: mdougherty

                The prices at Mikkeller Bar SF seem pretty much in-line with those at Trappist (and Øl), which considering that Chuck Stilphen owns all 3 spots, is unsurprising. And the new bar's connection to Mikkel aside, all of his bars list pour volumes in centiliters.

                1. re: Spatlese

                  The visit to Mikkeller was a one-off experience for me because I was providing my visiting hipster daughter from New York with some bragging material. I don't frequent the other bars you cited, but under any circumstances $15 for a pint of beer seems unconscionable (at least to someone like me on a Social Security income) especially since the two beers I had weren't exactly epiphanic.

                  1. re: soupçon

                    I would agree that the price-point at Mikkeller Bar et al is on the higher side. It's not just the bar, though - Mikkeller's own bottled product is rather steeply priced as well (which is a perpetual point of contention amongst the beer nerd crowd, many of whom are already quite accustomed to spending serious coin on beers).

                    Still, what you're paying for is (usually) many light-years beyond the standard pint-of-Bud, so it's not unreasonable for some of them to approach wine-by-the-glass prices, especially when the process of making them is as involved, or more so, than those wines.

                    All that said, if the current prices give one sticker shock, I'd probably stay clear of Mikkeller Bar this coming weekend - they're having their "official" opening, and the pending taplist is boasting some serious heavy hitters that I'm expecting to see prices of $15 for 25cl pours, never mind pints.

                    1. re: Spatlese

                      I'm not talking about Budweiser or Stella Artois here. The two beers I had at Mikkeller weren't detectably better than many of our regional microbrews (which I've been drinking since New Albion Ale days) that are available at more reasonable price points.

                      I swear I saw the ghost of Thorstein Veblen smiling down from the rafters, but he may have just been checking out the women.

              2. re: hankstramm

                They are not trying to fool anyone.
                The People running this bar are honest folk committed to great Beers and the appreciation of them.They have set up a lovely space and the accessibility to a very large number of great Brews. Many of these beers are from small, inventive Brewers and Breweries and all are of very high quality and Craft.
                If you want average Beers in average serving sizes there are innumerable options near by.
                I do not hear any crying that a $15 4-6 oz. Wine pour is too expensive.

              3. re: soupçon

                those portion sizes are pretty conventional for that kind of ale and bier. many of the breweries have customized and specific glassware for their brews, in fact. price wise, if the fixtures, serving ware, and service are 'plain jane', 'high priced' might mean one thing, but in a posh, new SF pub a 'fair price' might mean something different.

                there are plenty of wine bars and restaurants serving wines by the glass that are not particularly distinguished for $9-14 per 5-6 oz. serving, in decent but not great stemware. 8-12 oz. for top notch ales and beers at similar prices is quite fair, in that context. granted, some of them can be enjoyed at home from 500-750 ml. bottles that go from around 9-15 bucks per bottle [compared to seeing four or five glasses at 12 bucks coming out of a $30. retail -not that the establishment has to pay close to that of course - bottle of vino].

              4. Went last night with a small group. It's a very nice space and obviously has a great beer list. Table service was friendly and very efficient, even with a pretty good crowd.

                I had a solid chicken meatball sandwich. The fries were tasty, but not particularly crisp. The sausages looked good, the table next to us got the platter with all 5 of the house-made sausages.

                1. Lovely place. Great selection of beers. One hand pump.

                  The food seemed like some of the execution was off. I'll reserve judgment until the kitchen has more experience.

                  The discrepancy between the upscale interior and the hobo-camp scene on the sidewalk was about the largest such discrepancy I've ever experienced.



                  1. I tried the Reuben. Pretty good, though not as good as Trappist's, which is the best I've had recently.

                    Meat plate was excellent.