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Very Casual Italian Restaurant Suggestions for Sunday Evening

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facultyandtraveler Jul 30, 2013 02:00 PM

Hello, Two of us are staying near Grand Central this weekend and would like some recommendations on restaurants that serve decent Italian/American food. My son is a college student and more than likely will wear shorts and loafers. Would prefer to keep the food and bar bill with gratuity to < $150 for our meal. We enjoy pasta,red sauces, calamari, veal, salads,and pretty much eat anything with our beverages of choice being beer in this steamy weather. We have plans to sample some pizza slice places for lunch. Traveling on public transportation is fine for us and enjoyable. Being able to snag a reservation would also be a plus near 7 PM along with a lower noise level restaurant. Thank you.

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  1. Ziggy41 RE: facultyandtraveler Jul 30, 2013 02:24 PM

    Casual Italian - Da Andrea always comes to mind

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      foodwhisperer RE: Ziggy41 Jul 31, 2013 10:41 PM

      Crispo , Bar Pitti, Becco, Il Cantinori, Villa Mosconi. Frankie's on Hudson St. ,
      Da Andrea is not really a red sauce place.

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        Ziggy41 RE: foodwhisperer Aug 1, 2013 05:58 AM

        Da Andrea is not really a red sauce but their top dish pappardelle with sausage and truffle oil is. Add the Tigelle with prosciutto and you got yourself a nice meal. I like taking out of town visitors there. Always a success

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          barberinibee RE: Ziggy41 Aug 2, 2013 03:40 AM

          Is the truffle oil what makes it downscale? Or is the truffle oil in a red sauce?

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            Ziggy41 RE: barberinibee Aug 2, 2013 04:42 AM

            Truffle oil in red sauce. I know, I know truffle oil is not true Italian and frowned upon, but this dish tastes good to me.

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              barberinibee RE: Ziggy41 Aug 2, 2013 04:43 AM

              wow. I have never heard of truffle oil in red sauce before.

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                Ziggy41 RE: barberinibee Aug 2, 2013 04:58 AM

                Il Melograno (chef/owner form Brescia) in midtown serves a similar dish but I prefer Da Andreas version. Fresh Pappardelle with sausages tomato sauce and truffle oil. They add peas sometimes for good luck.

                Perhaps try it Barber? I'll treat you for one in exchange for Piedmont tips. Looking to go in the fall of next year

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                  barberinibee RE: Ziggy41 Aug 2, 2013 05:25 AM

                  That's okay. You can have my Piemonte tips for free!

                  Actually, I don't get up to Piemonte all that often, so you should check the many threads on the Italy board. The recommendations don't change all that often, and of course you should also read the Osterie d'Italia. But be aware of when truffle season is if that is why you are going. (And keep it to yourself that you're ok with truffle oil).

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                rrems RE: Ziggy41 Aug 2, 2013 07:18 AM

                I agree. I normally would not expect it but it is delicious in this dish. Everyone I know who has tried it loved it.

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                  barberinibee RE: rrems Aug 2, 2013 07:20 AM

                  I'll take everybody's word for it!

                  (Edited to add: I did find a recipe online in Italian for bacala with tomatoes and fresh truffles, but even leaving aside that it is truffle oil, it just is hard to imagine truffles in tomato sauce, although now that I think if it, I have seen jarred sauce like that, but not in Italy -- but I don't see everything.)

      2. NYJewboy RE: facultyandtraveler Jul 30, 2013 03:31 PM

        Crispo might be it. I am not big on Da Andrea.

        1. chompchomp RE: facultyandtraveler Jul 30, 2013 06:23 PM

          Perhaps Apizz

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            rrems RE: facultyandtraveler Jul 30, 2013 06:28 PM

            Rubirosa. Maybe skip the pizza for lunch and have it as part of your dinner instead. Their other dishes are all great, especially pastas, but pizza is the star. It can be noisy, but early on a Sunday night may not be bad.

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              chompchomp RE: rrems Jul 30, 2013 08:08 PM

              Good choice!

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                Barcelonian RE: rrems Aug 1, 2013 09:21 AM

                LOVE Rubirosa. Great pizza (get half vodka no matter what) and the meatballs are awesome. Never had a bad dish there: arugula salad, octopus, all pizzas/pastas.

                Call if you don't see anything on OT and if not, go at 6:30, put your names down, and grab a drink nearby. They generally over-estimate the wait by a lot.

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                Sneakeater RE: facultyandtraveler Jul 30, 2013 10:44 PM

                I just have to mention Dell'Anima cuz I like it so much.

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                  wasny RE: facultyandtraveler Jul 31, 2013 09:39 PM

                  Maybe someone can speak about Le Zie these days? I haven't been for a couple of years, but it could fit the bill.

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                    ttoommyy RE: wasny Aug 1, 2013 10:19 AM

                    Le Zie is Venetian inspired. Far from "Italian-American red sauce."

                  2. Motosport RE: facultyandtraveler Aug 1, 2013 07:00 AM

                    Take a short walk down Lexington to:
                    DaCiro
                    Marcony
                    I Trulli
                    All casual!!

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                      Teresanap RE: facultyandtraveler Aug 1, 2013 08:30 AM

                      Galli
                      Emporio,
                      Aurora
                      Apizz
                      Crispo

                      1. ttoommyy RE: facultyandtraveler Aug 1, 2013 10:21 AM

                        I don't really frequent "red-sauce" Italian-American places these days, so I don't have a suggestion, but a lot of places suggested in this thread do not seem to be "red-sauce" type places. "Red-sauce Italian-American" as requested by the OP makes me think of fried calamari with marinara sauce for dipping, veal or eggplant parm, spaghetti with meatballs, veal piccata, mussels in red sauce, etc. For example, I would never think of I Trulli or Le Zie as "Italian/American." But then, maybe I am wrong.

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                          foodwhisperer RE: ttoommyy Aug 1, 2013 08:23 PM

                          You're right

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                            wasny RE: ttoommyy Aug 2, 2013 08:22 PM

                            The OP doesn't specify "Red-sauce Italian-American" however. Anyway, Le Zie touts its spaghetti and meatballs, which fits pretty well into the red-sauce category. And that restaurant certainly serves pasta, calamari and salads, as also listed in the OP (I've never had veal there though that's not to say it's not on the menu). It's also a quite casual place where keeping the bill under $150 would be manageable.

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                              foodwhisperer RE: wasny Aug 2, 2013 09:44 PM

                              The OP does point out that he/she likes pasta with red sauces..."We enjoy pasta,red sauces, calamari, veal, salads,and ..."
                              that's why I think Crispo or Bar Pitti is the right choice or even Becco.

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                                ttoommyy RE: wasny Aug 3, 2013 05:31 AM

                                The OP mentions both red sauce and italian american in her post. I stll do not think that Le Zie, which touts itself as serving a Venetian cuisine, fits the bill. Just my opinion; the OP will make her own decision. We all read these posts in our own way and interpret them differently; we then base our answers on that interpretation. It's all good. :)

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                              BanjoMan1 RE: facultyandtraveler Aug 1, 2013 10:29 AM

                              I like Franks and Supper

                              1. Motosport RE: facultyandtraveler Aug 1, 2013 10:36 AM

                                Rossini's is a classic red sauce place. If your son is wearing "nice" shorts and a button shirt he will be ok.

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                                  ttoommyy RE: Motosport Aug 1, 2013 10:37 AM

                                  Now THAT'S the kind of place I read the OP as wanting to visit.

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                                    Motosport RE: ttoommyy Aug 1, 2013 10:40 AM

                                    "Mow"????

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                                      ttoommyy RE: Motosport Aug 1, 2013 11:17 AM

                                      Typo. Fixed it. Thanks.

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                                        Motosport RE: ttoommyy Aug 1, 2013 12:04 PM

                                        Ah haw!! I mean Ah hah!!
                                        Sorry about that. I used to be a proofreader. It is a curse of sorts.

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                                          ttoommyy RE: Motosport Aug 1, 2013 12:30 PM

                                          I'm a copywriter and have been a proofreader... make of that what you will.

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                                            foodwhisperer RE: ttoommyy Aug 1, 2013 08:25 PM

                                            ttoommyy iPhones must drive you crazy as the spell correct causes so many proofreading issues.

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                                              ttoommyy RE: foodwhisperer Aug 2, 2013 03:36 AM

                                              Yes, they do. But I've gotten used to it. I'm constantly amazed at how much my life has changed in the last ten years due to electronic devices. At one point I just had to give in to reading others typos and autocorrecting them in my head. :)

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                                                Ttrockwood RE: foodwhisperer Aug 2, 2013 10:10 PM

                                                That auto correct was making me so insane I went to the genius bar to have it disabled!!

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                                                  Motosport RE: Ttrockwood Aug 3, 2013 08:08 AM

                                                  What kind of drunks do they serve there? I typed drinks!!!!!

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                                        barberinibee RE: ttoommyy Aug 2, 2013 05:30 AM

                                        Can anybody recommend Fagiolini on 40th? Never eaten there but the menu looks right.

                                        Looks like it is closed Sunday night but open otherwise, but I can't tell if they serve beer.

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                                          Motosport RE: barberinibee Aug 2, 2013 08:07 AM

                                          Both Fagiolini restaurants are ok but not memorable.
                                          My other recs are much better.
                                          There is also Sam's Place on 39th just off Lex.

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                                            Bob Martinez RE: barberinibee Aug 2, 2013 08:57 AM

                                            Fagiolini used to be good for years. Pretty good food at very fair prices. I was really unhappy when I went baclk last January and found they had significantly dumbed down the menu. Much shorter and the dishes were more basic. The execution was off too. My meal was a C+.

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                                              barberinibee RE: Bob Martinez Aug 2, 2013 12:45 PM

                                              Ok. Never ate there. But I did eat at Rossini's and thought the food was impossible to recommend, to be avoided.

                                              I've never eaten at Nanni's either and it seems to be out their price range and wardrobe needs -- but any recent experiences (just curious).

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                                          barberinibee RE: Motosport Aug 2, 2013 03:44 AM

                                          But Rossini's is really terrible! I have tried to kill recommendations for this place more than once, and it is not cheap, either. Most of the other diners would not be dressed super-casual.

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                                            flygirl RE: barberinibee Aug 4, 2013 01:11 PM

                                            Hi,

                                            If I could butt into this thread with a question of my own...

                                            I've been to i trulli and liked it, so there's that.. it's Apulian, yes (trulli?)...?

                                            Of any of the above in this list, have you had killer ravioli in a butter / sage sauce at any of them? And who makes the best bolognese sauce, in your opinion?

                                            Many thanks.

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                                              barberinibee RE: flygirl Aug 4, 2013 02:02 PM

                                              Yes, I Trulli is a Pugliese restaurant, named after the cone-shaped huts that are found only in the Puglia region of Italy.

                                              I can't answer your other questions but you might want to start a separate thread asking them, because the above list of Italian restaurants in Manhattan is focused on places that are OK with guys wearing shorts and who also prefer Italian-American "red sauce" cooking.

                                              A "killer" stuffed pasta with butter and sage or a "best" bolognese ragu in Manhattan might be at a restaurant not mentioned in this thread.

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