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Adios to Old Weller 12?

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The Big Crunch Jul 29, 2013 02:15 PM

So, anyone think there's some truth in this blog post? Interestingly nough I just checked the online inventory for Montgomery County's liquor stores, and sure enough, Weller 12 is currently unavailable throughout the whole county.

http://thebourbontruth.tumblr.com/pos...

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    TombstoneShadow Jan 7, 2014 10:36 PM

    I always liked the regular white-label Weller bottling anyway.

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      tomjb27 Dec 21, 2013 06:17 PM

      I know this is a long shot,but does anyone know where to find this in the Boston area?

      1. StriperGuy Dec 21, 2013 08:15 AM

        Likely rebrand existing inventory new crafty bottle 2x price.

        1. Scott M Dec 18, 2013 09:46 PM

          Looks like the blog was correct. The Weller 12 is discontinued. FareWell-er 12 yr.

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            The Big Crunch Dec 19, 2013 10:06 AM

            It wouldn't surprise me. Do you have a link for an official notice about the discontinuation?

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              Scott M Dec 19, 2013 10:41 AM

              No official notice but it was available through BevMo and when I went in last week they told me the product has been discontinued from the maker and they won't be carrying it any longer. Heard the same thing from other stores.

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                curseofleisure Dec 24, 2013 08:39 AM

                I bought a bottle yesterday for $23 at my local Spec's and the resident bourbon guy said it's not discontinued, just that they are having a shortage--the familiar story about nobody realizing 12 years ago how much bourbon would take off. I sure hope he's right and that your store is wrong!

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                  Scott M Dec 24, 2013 02:53 PM

                  Hope your guy is right, did he give you any idea when the shortage would improve? Strange that BevMo stated they won't be able to carry it any longer.

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                    ncyankee101 Jan 15, 2014 01:18 AM

                    Not looking good for this, I looked on wine-searcher.com and only got three hits - one place in Cali that won't ship out of state, a midwestern retailer selling it for $60 (it was $25 last month) and Duke of Bourbon for $90.

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                      scubadoo97 Jan 15, 2014 10:09 AM

                      I have a bottle in my cabinet now that I rarely touch.
                      Its okay bourbon but not great and certainly not worth those prices.

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                EvergreenDan Dec 19, 2013 10:17 AM

                This thread is a pun magnet. I approve.

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                  ncyankee101 Dec 19, 2013 10:18 AM

                  Glad I stockpiled a couple more bottles before everyone ran out, I now have 4 1/2.

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                    scubadoo97 Dec 20, 2013 02:21 PM

                    I guess they are using those barrels for Van Winkle products with a higher rerun on investment

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                      Veggo Dec 20, 2013 02:36 PM

                      That's funny. Some years ago my brother in Vermont flew to Kentucky to visit the Van Winkle distillery and brought back a case or so. One year I got a bottle for Christmas after I gave him a bottle of anejo rum I brought back from Cuba. Then Pappy prices went off the chart, and the gifts ended....I think he still has about 6 bottles.

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                        Scott M Dec 20, 2013 05:18 PM

                        I stopped by a local store and the owner had one bottle of Weller 12yr. While I was paying for it he mentioned that it was the last bottle and he was not going to get anymore, but he had some Van Winkle 12yr available behind the register if I was interested. Van Winkle 12 was priced at $300, Weller 12 was priced at $30.

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                          Veggo Dec 20, 2013 06:34 PM

                          Wow! My now near empty bottle of PVW 20 is quite a prize. I don't enjoy many celebratory opportunities.

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                    ncyankee101 Jul 30, 2013 12:03 AM

                    it's not Old Weller 12 yr, it just Weller 12 yr - the Old weller antique 107 is 7 yrs old.

                    I grabbed a couple bottles of the 12 yr old on sale at the beginning of the year for $20, very nice stuff - if this article is right, I wish I had grabbed a couple more.

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                      ncyankee101 Jul 30, 2013 09:51 AM

                      Just checked and the retailer still has it in stock at $25.

                      I found one in NY that has it for $19 but they won't ship out of state.

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                        jaba Dec 23, 2013 05:03 PM

                        what store was this?

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                          ncyankee101 Dec 23, 2013 05:27 PM

                          I don't remember - I had found it on wine-searcher.com but it no longer shows up.

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                          ncyankee101 Jan 15, 2014 01:10 AM

                          And now the Midwestern retailer I purchased from last year has raised the price to $60.

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                            EvergreenDan Jan 15, 2014 04:22 AM

                            internetwines.com won't be getting my business (not that I can order from them anyhow).

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                              ncyankee101 Jan 15, 2014 11:47 AM

                              You can't really blame them for being opportunistic when they are the last ones with a rare item. Back when you could still buy the BTAC I would see them online for $100 even though the state run stores had them for $60-70. Now the only place I see them are specialty retailers for $400+.

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                                scubadoo97 Jan 15, 2014 12:12 PM

                                Sure you can. It's pure gouging. These bourbons are not rare. But you're right you can't blame them they are only trying to make a buck.

                                Secondary markets have driven up the price as a result of hype and the uninformed consumer willing to spend big bucks on presumed luxuries.

                                Is a bottle of Stagg worth $400? Or even $200???

                                If yes, it's time to step away and let this play out and drink something else until this blows over.

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                                  ncyankee101 Jan 15, 2014 12:25 PM

                                  They're rare if the demand far exceeds the supply - and in the case of Weller 12, since it has been discontinued, there is no supply. I blame people who are willing to pay these prices, because they wouldn't be that high if someone wasn't buying.

                                  I saw a bottle of Jefferson's Presidential 18 yr Bourbon (S-W stock) recently for $280. It must have been discontinued, and formerly sold for around $70.

                                  On the other hand, I have been offered good money for my bottles of Handy ($200) and Sazerac 18 ($300) by a dealer on the west coast and am probably going to sell.

                                  Gouging only applies to overcharging for necessities in time of an emergency, this is capitalism. I would hardly consider Weller 12 yr or Pappy a necessity.

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                                    JMF Jan 15, 2014 04:24 PM

                                    I'm waiting for an offer of $1k for one of my bottles of AH Hirsch Reserve 16... they're getting close.

                      2. Veggo Jul 29, 2013 02:48 PM

                        Old Yeller made it to 12, too. RIP.

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                          The Big Crunch Jul 29, 2013 05:36 PM

                          Just want to reiterate, I'm not claiming they're cancelling the line (I doubt that) but I was curious what folks with more bourbon knowledge than me thought about the author's assertions in this piece.

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