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Tough Times In Chinatown--Hoy King Is Gone

Chandavkl Jul 27, 2013 04:30 PM

As indicated in today's front page L.A. Times story on Chinatown, things are tough for traditional Chinese restaurants in Chinatown. After a dozen years, Hoy King on Ord (right next to ABC) is gone, the space now for rent. While not one of Chinatown's stars, they were capable of good stuff, though maddeningly inconsistent at times. That location has been a restaurant for decades, the earliest I remember being Chung Mee, so hopefully we'll have a replacement soon.

  1. TripleAxel Jul 28, 2013 09:05 PM

    Sadly, I'm glad they shuttered. The last time I dined here, about 8 months ago, it was dirty, flies were swarming around the dining room, no a/c. It just became unappealing, unlike the better times during the last decade...

    1. A5 KOBE Jul 28, 2013 09:32 AM

      A good start would be better parking.

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      1. re: A5 KOBE
        Mattapoisett in LA Jul 28, 2013 12:22 PM

        You could take the Gold Line. It's always the best way to get to Chinatown, Even if you just park at Union Station to take it.

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          Chandavkl Jul 28, 2013 12:23 PM

          Well the Empress Pavilion location was a CRA project that was developed as a parking facility first. I presume there's a lot of spaces there right now.

        2. ipsedixit Jul 27, 2013 06:55 PM

          Can there be a "Chinatown" without Chinese businesses?

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            carter Jul 27, 2013 09:56 PM

            there will be soon enough.
            Stay tuned!
            You have just seen the tip of the iceberg as to the changes in Chinatown.
            In 5 years, you will not recognize the place, and that is the good news.

            1. re: carter
              ipsedixit Jul 28, 2013 10:25 AM

              The gentrification/revitalization planned for Chinatown won't necessarily bring or create a Chinese clientele.

              You'll have more Chynna than Hop Woo -- not that's necessarily a bad (or good) thing, just different.

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                carter Jul 28, 2013 04:06 PM

                My point exactly!

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              Chandavkl Jul 28, 2013 09:10 AM

              Well as Portland, Montreal and even Los Angeles Chinatown in the 40s, 50s and early 60s showed, you can have a Chinatown without Chinese oriented businesses and Chinese consumers. But you've been to Washington DC and seen how it goes when the Chinese operated businesses leave.

              1. re: Chandavkl
                ipsedixit Jul 28, 2013 10:28 AM

                But you've been to Washington DC and seen how it goes when the Chinese operated businesses leave.
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                Yeah, esp. when the best restaurant in DC Chinatown is nothing even remotely Chinese.

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                  Chandavkl Jul 28, 2013 12:15 PM

                  Oh, you must mean Hooters, or "Owl Cafe" as the Chinese signage would be translated.

                  1. re: Chandavkl
                    TripleAxel Jul 28, 2013 09:17 PM

                    Or the Fuddruckers and Starbucks.

              2. re: ipsedixit
                TripleAxel Jul 28, 2013 09:10 PM

                It's not unusual. Look at DC's Chinatown. The gateway is surrounded by Starbucks, CVS, and other American businesses. The only Chinese thing about them is the Chinese spelling of their names.

                 
                 
                 
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                Galen Jul 27, 2013 06:53 PM

                I used to get double orders of salted fish with steamed ground pork to go there but very rarely at in. The place was absolutely filthy. Feel bad for the owner Fong. Nice guy and family.

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